Steve--
I'll try to make this clearer. I absolutely did not uninstall Win Mail. I
thought I made it clear, but I'm appreciative of help from an OE/Win Mail
expert and I'll try to lay this out in clearer terms. I know there is a way
to fix my problem, but I'm sure having trouble doing it. What's confusing
you is that this is taking place in OE on XP and Win Mail on Vista.
Win Mail was working fine. It still works fine. OE was working fine, and
it still works fine. But take your post or my posts in this thread as an
example. We can drag them out onto the desktop or into a folder, and save
them as little envelop icons in OE, or whatever the little icon is in Win
Mail.
I've had every build of Vista since July 2005, to RTM and drilled it pretty
thorougly, so I'm aware of OE in XP and Win Mail in Vista. I apologize that
I didn't make this clear to you.
For simplicity sake, let's confine this to the XP boot and OE--although
technically it could or should be posted on the OE group--but the same
principle is at work with Win Mail and Vista. I'm on the XP boot now (in a
dual boot that has worked very well for me for the last year and a half.)
Here's what happened Steve:
1) A public Beta started a while back (far enough that I don't have a
restore point to use to try to fix this--whether it would or not I don't
know) that I linked and will link again and this was for a different kind of
mail--Windows Live Desktop Mail. The link for it is here:
http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
2) After I downloaded Windows Live Desktop Mail a few weeks ago, it took
over the file association for OE on XP and for Win Mail on Vista.
Please keep in mind this has nothing to do with the functioning of OE/Win
Mail when you type msimn in or open up OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista.
My problem is happening only with the newsgroup posts that I have dragged
out of OE and put into folders--I'm going to stick with OE in XP on this
now.
We're talking about a good number of these that I use for reference either
to remind myself of something or use a link or to help out in the groups.
So again, there is no problem opening up a message either mailed or a
newsgroup post within OE. It's the ones that I drag out of the newsgroup to
save for easy retrieval that now won't open up. These NWS messages *were
opening up as Windows Desktop Live Messages (and if you havenpt used
it--it'll take over your file associations for those OE or Win Mail messages
that you drag out of the OE/Win Mail interface.
The problem I had with this is they took forever to open up. It had nothing
to do with cpu or spyware or any other of the many causes for slowness.
Nothing else was slow. But Windows Desktoo Live Mail opens up too slowly
for me. So I uninstalled it from Add/Remove. Again this is not OE or Win
Mail. This is a totally different mail client from MSFT --i.e. from MSN
Live.
I would have never downloaded it and installed it had I known it would take
over the file associations ***for those newsgroup messages that I dragged
outside of the OE interface to save (in folders with categories I assigned
by naming the folders).
I uninstalled Windows Desktop Live Mail from Add/Remove uneventfully. Now
when I try to open up any of the newsgroup messages that I have dragged out
of OE into folders--I get the dialogue box that the NWS message does not
have a file associated with it to open it up.
I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't find
it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box, and I
cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association back--I've
tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the known places
where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for me. Maybe I'm
missing some place.
Again, again I have no problem opening up the messages with OE--its those
messages I've dragged outside onto the desktop. So I can take your response
to me and open it up fine inside OE. It's when I drag it onto the desktop
that the problem starts, and I need to drag messages into folders that I
want to save because at some point they are going to be off the server.
Sure I could copy them into an OE email or another client, but that's time
consuming. Dragging email messages I wanted to save worked great until
Windows Desktop Live took over the file association and they began opening
slowly as Desktop Live Mail messages, and then I uninstalled it and
afterward they wouldn't open.
I have a way to open them, but it's not the one I want. I can open them
with wordpad, and I'm sure I can open them with notepad or Word if I wanted
to associate that. I simply used wordpad with the dialogue box that asked me
what I wanted to open with since no NWS file was avilable.
I added a NWS file to the "File types" tab list (reached by typing control
folders into the run box or via the toolbar in a folder (same thing), but
it does not show up in the what do you want to open with dialogue box that I
have to work with now when I want to open one of these guys up.
So again, I need help trying to restore the file association not to any
messages within OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista--but to those messages from OE
that I have chosen to drag out of the OE list to save.
Thanks much for any help with this. Let me know if I'm not clear now, and
next time I'll do it with screenshots. I know that one of you guys who have
been OE experts for years can figure out a way.
CH
"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:6A2FB256-2F1A-4467-A3FC-B59FA6E60CFA@microsoft.com...
> This is totally confusing. How did you uninstall WinMail? It is part of
> Vista and cannot be uninstalled.
>
> If you have a machine with Outlook Express on it (e.g. XP) then you cannot
> have WInMail on it, as WinMail only exists in Vista. Similarly, you
> cannot install OE on a machine that is running Vista. So I have no idea
> what you mean.
>
> NWS files in XP are opened with OE and in Vista are opened with WinMail by
> default.
>
> steve
>
> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
> news:%233UB76LOHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I often drag useful newsgroup posts to a folder for retrieval (mine and
>>others) to use in posts or to get the information/links quickly.
>>
>> I tried the Win Live Mail Desktop public beta
>> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>>
>> for a few weeks last week and it immediately replaced the opening of Win
>> Mail on Vista and OE on XP Pro SP2. I don't like Win Mail because it
>> takes way too long to open up, and so I uninstalled it.
>>
>> I can open a newsgroup message from OE or Win Mail fine, but after I
>> uninstalled this piece of junk from MSN Live (IMHO), whenever I try to
>> open a newsgroup message that I had dragged to the folders where I save
>> them and classify them, I get a message that there is no File association
>> for opening it. The message is the familiar "Windows cannot open this
>> file. To open this file Windows needs to know what program created it.
>> The message is a NWS file. I tried to create the association by adding
>> it to Folder Options and then right clicking and using the open with
>> dialogue box but I had no luck.
>>
>> I tried adding the NWS file type from the dialogue box that springs up
>> with the message there is no file association --and that does not work
>> and the reason is that it's not listed there and you're asked to browse
>> for it. I cannot find the place to browse that will allow me to change
>> the file association to NWS in that dialogue box. This includes going to
>> the folders where .dbxs are stored and where the personal message store
>> is
>>
>> C:\Documents and Settings\My Profile\Local Settings\Application
>> Data\Identities\{292F1CF4-0E56-4C5F-92CA-2A6E132A0775}\Microsoft\Outlook
>> Express
>>
>> and C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and the file paths for OE on XP and
>> Vista where .dbx messages are stored.
>>
>> System restore is not a good option here, because the restore points have
>> been replaced that would have restored in the time period before I
>> installed Desktop Live.
>>
>> I tried running SFC and no joy. I've been going through the multitude of
>> fixes on Tom Koch's (MVP's) Tomsterdam www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe site,
>> but I don't see anything that directly applies there.
>>
>> It's obvious that Windows Live Mail Desktop replaced whatever file
>> association I need to open these messages when they are not on the
>> newsgroup list but removed to be stored in a folder.
>>
>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>
>> CH
>>
>
