"starstuff" <email@example.com> wrote
> I came across something I've never seen in MS products (since windows
> When I installed my XP-pro upgrade I had the option to install it on a
> HDD. The XP installation just asked me to insert my copy of 2000/98/95,
> thing when I upgraded to 2000.
> A brief history:
> I bought my vista ultimate upgrade the day after MS released it. Because
> hardware limitations I didn't install it until yesterday when I got my new
> motherboard, graphics card and 2G of ram.
> First I did an upgrade on a cloned HDD and everything went fine but many
> files and drivers and stuff I didn't want remained in my HDD so I decided
> do a fresh (clean) install. To my surprise the vista (upgrade version)
> installation does not support this installation path (the product key you
> entered.... blah, blah)
> So I ignored the product key screen and continued... (You should enter a
> product key because if you don't we'll do this and that... blah,blah) I
> ignored the insinuations of being a pirate and a thief and decided to
> continue. Ok vista finished a clean installation and rebooted for the
> time. Now I can activate vista right? WRONG! the key I entered is still
> invalid for the type of installation.
> OK I called MS tech support in India and a very helpful guy named
> "Sharifssgt" or something like that gave me a solution. After I
> vista I did a disk clone using ghost 2003. I did a test on the HDD clone
> vista said there was a problem and asked me to insert the vista CD/DVD
> installation disk and repair vista.
> After I repaired vista everything booted fine which brings me to ask this
> two questions.
> 1. Is there a more 'conventional' way of doing a clean (blank HDD) install
> using my copy of vista ultimate (upgrade version)?
> 2. What programs within vista can be used to clone a HDD for backup
> purposes? I don't want to clone a HDD just to find out that a booloader
> installed and it can't be used in a stand alone configuration.
Vista does not do a shiny media check for the upgrade. It is intended to be
installed from the desktop of the installed, qualifying OS. The way around
this, if you want to install without first having the qualifying OS
installed, but one still needs to own a qualifying product to use the
upgrade version is a double install method as you discovered. Install once
without entering the product key, then do an upgrade of that, now entering
the product key. Here is a link to an article for info on it.
Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate come with Complete PC backup which
is drive imaging. When run from the GUI you must image the boot / system
partition or both if they are different. And then you can choose whatever
other partitions you want to include. Restore can only be done by restoring
the complete image by booting the Vista DVD. You cannot restore individual
files or folders from this image. There is a command line tools that allows
you to image individual partitions without having to image the boot/system
partitions but I don't know if restore works the same way, I assume so, by
booting from the Vista DVD. Again you cannot restore individual files.
For more control and flexibility look at Acronis True Image version 10. The
latest builds work in both XP and Vista. It will do partition and drive
imaging, full, incremental and differential images, file backup and disk
cloning. Restores can be done on a file, folder, partition or drive basis.
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]