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Old 10-01-2009
mainframeguy
 

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Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.
Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.

I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old Drive
sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly completed to
the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last line on
the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and reboot.
Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old system
and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..

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Old 10-02-2009
Rick Rogers
 

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Re: Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.
Hi,

The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on the
new system.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
"mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:68B03DBC-2D81-4954-8035-D29B2118FFDC@microsoft.com...
> Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
> New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
>
> I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old Drive
> sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly completed
> to
> the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
> entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last line
> on
> the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and reboot.
> Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
> system
> and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
>


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Old 10-02-2009
mainframeguy
 

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Re: Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.
Thanks Rick,
Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and running
except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.

If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still thanks for
your reply.
I will stop the Clone thing.
Sey

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on the
> new system.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:68B03DBC-2D81-4954-8035-D29B2118FFDC@microsoft.com...
> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
> >
> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old Drive
> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly completed
> > to
> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last line
> > on
> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and reboot.
> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
> > system
> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
> >

>
>

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Old 10-02-2009
Rick Rogers
 

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Re: Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.
Hi,

You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create a
clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
installation.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
"mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:829DF318-6205-4518-A078-DC420DEDED9C@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Rick,
> Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
> And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and running
> except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
>
> If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still thanks
> for
> your reply.
> I will stop the Clone thing.
> Sey
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on
>> the
>> new system.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:68B03DBC-2D81-4954-8035-D29B2118FFDC@microsoft.com...
>> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
>> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
>> >
>> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
>> > Drive
>> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
>> > completed
>> > to
>> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
>> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last
>> > line
>> > on
>> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
>> > reboot.
>> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
>> > system
>> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
>> >

>>
>>


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Old 10-02-2009
mainframeguy
 

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Re: Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.


"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
> nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
> disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create a
> clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
> entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
> Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
> in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
> installation.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:829DF318-6205-4518-A078-DC420DEDED9C@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Rick,
> > Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
> > And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and running
> > except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
> >
> > If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still thanks
> > for
> > your reply.
> > I will stop the Clone thing.
> > Sey
> >
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on
> >> the
> >> new system.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:68B03DBC-2D81-4954-8035-D29B2118FFDC@microsoft.com...
> >> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
> >> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
> >> >
> >> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
> >> > Drive
> >> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
> >> > completed
> >> > to
> >> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
> >> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last
> >> > line
> >> > on
> >> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
> >> > reboot.
> >> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
> >> > system
> >> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
> >> >
> >>
> >>

>

How do I bypass the screen????? UPS will be in a couple of hours with
the new Vista. Sey
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Old 10-02-2009
R. C. White
 

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Re: Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.
Hi, Sey.

> How do I bypass the screen?????


Just continue to Clean Install without entering the Product Key. As Rick
said, this will let Setup install Vista for a limited time (30 days? I
forgot). Before that time is up, you have to enter the PK to activate it.
Do that by running Setup again, but this time as an Upgrade - with the
Upgrade PK. ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6D150B9B-3B1D-47BA-B2EC-A38E24D71F2E@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
>> nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
>> disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create
>> a
>> clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
>> entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
>> Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
>> in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
>> installation.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP


>> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:829DF318-6205-4518-A078-DC420DEDED9C@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks Rick,
>> > Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
>> > And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and
>> > running
>> > except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
>> >
>> > If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still
>> > thanks
>> > for
>> > your reply.
>> > I will stop the Clone thing.
>> > Sey
>> >
>> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it,
>> >> on
>> >> the
>> >> new system.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best of Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP


>> >> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:68B03DBC-2D81-4954-8035-D29B2118FFDC@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
>> >> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
>> >> >
>> >> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
>> >> > Drive
>> >> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
>> >> > completed
>> >> > to
>> >> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen
>> >> > (Safemode
>> >> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the
>> >> > last
>> >> > line
>> >> > on
>> >> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
>> >> > reboot.
>> >> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my
>> >> > old
>> >> > system
>> >> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
>> >>

>>

> How do I bypass the screen????? UPS will be in a couple of hours with
> the new Vista. Sey


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Old 10-02-2009
mainframeguy
 

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Re: Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.
Amazing... I guess I will still have to move my files/programs (stuff) the
hardway.
But I will have a Windows Vista 64 on the NEW. After I add my Network I
can get it attached to the ADSL.
Wow...so many sleepless hours. Thanks..

"R. C. White" wrote:

> Hi, Sey.
>
> > How do I bypass the screen?????

>
> Just continue to Clean Install without entering the Product Key. As Rick
> said, this will let Setup install Vista for a limited time (30 days? I
> forgot). Before that time is up, you have to enter the PK to activate it.
> Do that by running Setup again, but this time as an Upgrade - with the
> Upgrade PK. ;<)
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>
> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6D150B9B-3B1D-47BA-B2EC-A38E24D71F2E@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
> >> nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
> >> disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create
> >> a
> >> clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
> >> entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
> >> Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
> >> in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
> >> installation.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

>
> >> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:829DF318-6205-4518-A078-DC420DEDED9C@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks Rick,
> >> > Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
> >> > And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and
> >> > running
> >> > except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
> >> >
> >> > If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still
> >> > thanks
> >> > for
> >> > your reply.
> >> > I will stop the Clone thing.
> >> > Sey
> >> >
> >> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it,
> >> >> on
> >> >> the
> >> >> new system.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best of Luck,
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

>
> >> >> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> news:68B03DBC-2D81-4954-8035-D29B2118FFDC@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
> >> >> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
> >> >> > Drive
> >> >> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
> >> >> > completed
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen
> >> >> > (Safemode
> >> >> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the
> >> >> > last
> >> >> > line
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
> >> >> > reboot.
> >> >> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my
> >> >> > old
> >> >> > system
> >> >> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
> >> >>
> >>

> > How do I bypass the screen????? UPS will be in a couple of hours with
> > the new Vista. Sey

>
>

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Old 10-02-2009
Ian D
 

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Re: Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23pN9%23e0QKHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
> nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
> disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create a
> clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
> entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
> Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
> in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
> installation.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:829DF318-6205-4518-A078-DC420DEDED9C@microsoft.com...


Actually, you can also do a clean install the second time.
The clean install gives a better final product. I've done
it both ways, and the upgrade install takes a lot longer,
with a lot more disk activity, than a second clean install.
After the second install, delete the windows.old folder.

Even if it's not activated, a WGA check will show an
install like this as genuine Vista.

One interesting thing about doing a clean install with
64 bit Vista, is that, as long as you don't do a format,
non OS files and folders in the target partition are left
intact, and not moved to windows.old. Applications
in Program Files will be moved to windows.old, but
everything else non-OS will be untouched.

>> Thanks Rick,
>> Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
>> And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and
>> running
>> except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
>>
>> If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still thanks
>> for
>> your reply.
>> I will stop the Clone thing.
>> Sey
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on
>>> the
>>> new system.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>> "mainframeguy" <mainframeguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:68B03DBC-2D81-4954-8035-D29B2118FFDC@microsoft.com...
>>> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
>>> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
>>> >
>>> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
>>> > Drive
>>> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
>>> > completed
>>> > to
>>> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
>>> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last
>>> > line
>>> > on
>>> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
>>> > reboot.
>>> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
>>> > system
>>> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
>>> >
>>>
>>>

>



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Old 10-03-2009
Rick Rogers
 

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Re: Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.
Hi,

> Actually, you can also do a clean install the second time.
> The clean install gives a better final product. I've done
> it both ways, and the upgrade install takes a lot longer,
> with a lot more disk activity, than a second clean install.
> After the second install, delete the windows.old folder.


Yes. The key to this is that the installation is started from within a
working one. FWIW, an in-place upgrade to a clean install still results in a
clean install.

> Even if it's not activated, a WGA check will show an
> install like this as genuine Vista.


Yes, and it should.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

<snip>

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Old 10-03-2009
mainframeguy
 

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Re: Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.
IT WORKED, I HAVE A SYSTEM.
Thanks to Rick and all of you who replied i have a running system which is
not online yet. Have a few kinks to work out.

Watch for more Questions. Sey

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > Actually, you can also do a clean install the second time.
> > The clean install gives a better final product. I've done
> > it both ways, and the upgrade install takes a lot longer,
> > with a lot more disk activity, than a second clean install.
> > After the second install, delete the windows.old folder.

>
> Yes. The key to this is that the installation is started from within a
> working one. FWIW, an in-place upgrade to a clean install still results in a
> clean install.
>
> > Even if it's not activated, a WGA check will show an
> > install like this as genuine Vista.

>
> Yes, and it should.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> <snip>
>
>

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