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Old 03-02-2007
John
 

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Vista hardware advise
Hi

Could someone please recommend some basic graphics card and audio card for
vista ultimate. The existing cards have been rejected by the upgrade
advisor.

Thanks

Regards


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Old 03-02-2007
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Re: Vista hardware advise
Do you need an AGP, PCI or PCIe type card?

Do you prefer ATI or NVIDIA ?

What is the max amount you want to spend ? (put that in USD please....)

You're in the UK so although we can make recommendations, I wouldn't know
the availability there but maybe someone else will give it a shot when you
provide the info above.

Bob S.


"John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Could someone please recommend some basic graphics card and audio card for
> vista ultimate. The existing cards have been rejected by the upgrade
> advisor.
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
>



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Re: Vista hardware advise
I guess PCI is more standard then I'll be sure it will fit in my PC.

Is $150 OK?

Thanks

Regards

"BobS" <no-spam@noplace.com> wrote in message
news:uByduuGXHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Do you need an AGP, PCI or PCIe type card?
>
> Do you prefer ATI or NVIDIA ?
>
> What is the max amount you want to spend ? (put that in USD please....)
>
> You're in the UK so although we can make recommendations, I wouldn't know
> the availability there but maybe someone else will give it a shot when you
> provide the info above.
>
> Bob S.
>
>
> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23JSVWpGXHHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>>
>> Could someone please recommend some basic graphics card and audio card
>> for vista ultimate. The existing cards have been rejected by the upgrade
>> advisor.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>

>
>



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Old 03-02-2007
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Re: Vista hardware advise
> I guess PCI is more standard then I'll be sure it will fit in my PC.
>

Perhaps a more direct hardware question for you -- what specific
motherboard do you currently have.

If you don't know whether it supports AGP or PCI-X16 (the two options
out there), then it may be that upgrading to Vista (any version) is not
something you really need to do at this point...


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Old 03-02-2007
Richard Urban
 

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Re: Vista hardware advise
A PCI graphics card is old technology. It was replaced by AGP about 4-5
years ago. Now there is PCI Express. Some store computers (cheap ones) have
built in graphics and may not even be able to accept an upgrade graphics
adapter.

You really must see what your computer will accept before even asking for
advice on graphics adapters. Know what you need and then ask for advice on
which one of that family would you recommend. Also state how you want to use
your computer and what programs etc. you plan to run.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I guess PCI is more standard then I'll be sure it will fit in my PC.
>
> Is $150 OK?
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
> "BobS" <no-spam@noplace.com> wrote in message
> news:uByduuGXHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Do you need an AGP, PCI or PCIe type card?
>>
>> Do you prefer ATI or NVIDIA ?
>>
>> What is the max amount you want to spend ? (put that in USD please....)
>>
>> You're in the UK so although we can make recommendations, I wouldn't know
>> the availability there but maybe someone else will give it a shot when
>> you provide the info above.
>>
>> Bob S.
>>
>>
>> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23JSVWpGXHHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Could someone please recommend some basic graphics card and audio card
>>> for vista ultimate. The existing cards have been rejected by the upgrade
>>> advisor.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>


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Old 03-02-2007
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Re: Vista hardware advise
Its a dell SC420 machine. Not sure about the motherboard as everything came
from dell pre-fitted.

Thanks

Regards

"BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> I guess PCI is more standard then I'll be sure it will fit in my PC.
>>

> Perhaps a more direct hardware question for you -- what specific
> motherboard do you currently have.
>
> If you don't know whether it supports AGP or PCI-X16 (the two options
> out there), then it may be that upgrading to Vista (any version) is not
> something you really need to do at this point...
>
>
> --
> Barry Schnur



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Old 03-02-2007
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Re: Vista hardware advise
> Its a dell SC420 machine. Not sure about the motherboard as everything came
> from dell pre-fitted.
>


OK -- question 1 -- why did you get a PowerEdge SC420 as a desktop --
it is a low end server and (as with all Dell servers) has an embedded
low end video chipset (as servers are not designed to be desktops).

It does include two PCI Express slots -- but they are 1 PCI X8, and 1
PCI X1. There are some options here -- including:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161017
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161079

How much memory do you have installed? The thing with purpose built
servers, is the memory they use is (as is the case here ECC memory).
So if you have less than 1G of memory, you will need to consider
upgrading the memory AND be careful about the memory you get -- ECC is
not standard but can be obtained fairly readily when you look for it.



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Old 03-02-2007
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Re: Vista hardware advise
That SC420 he has puts him in a corner -- about the best option is a
couple of PCI-X1 ATI chipset cards.


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Old 03-02-2007
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Re: Vista hardware advise
Hi

Below is what I got from dell online system configuration. With so many
Intel chips on board I suspect it may be an Intel MB. Is there anyway I can
check if I have AGP or PCIx?

Thanks

Regards


Disk Drives Maxtor 6Y080M0 74.50Gb
Maxtor 6 V080E0
SCSI Disk Device 76.32Gb

Display AdaptersIntel(R) E7221 Integrated Graphics
Controller 8Mb

IDE ATA/ATAPI ControllersIntel(R) 82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA Storage
Controllers - 266F
Primary IDE
Channel
Intel(R) 82801FB
Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2652
Primary IDE
Channel
Secondary IDE
Channel

Keyboards Standard 101/102-Key or
Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard

Mice and Other Pointing Devices PS/2 Compatible Mouse

Monitors Dell 1905FP (Analog) -
Dell Inc.

Sound Devices Creative SB Live! Value
(WDM)

USB Controllers Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB
Universal Host Controller - 2658
Intel(R)
82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 2659
Intel(R)
82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 265A
Intel(R)
82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 265B
Intel(R)
82801FB/FBM USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 265C


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uF5M$iHXHHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>A PCI graphics card is old technology. It was replaced by AGP about 4-5
>years ago. Now there is PCI Express. Some store computers (cheap ones) have
>built in graphics and may not even be able to accept an upgrade graphics
>adapter.
>
> You really must see what your computer will accept before even asking for
> advice on graphics adapters. Know what you need and then ask for advice on
> which one of that family would you recommend. Also state how you want to
> use your computer and what programs etc. you plan to run.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23MCbvWHXHHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I guess PCI is more standard then I'll be sure it will fit in my PC.
>>
>> Is $150 OK?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> "BobS" <no-spam@noplace.com> wrote in message
>> news:uByduuGXHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Do you need an AGP, PCI or PCIe type card?
>>>
>>> Do you prefer ATI or NVIDIA ?
>>>
>>> What is the max amount you want to spend ? (put that in USD please....)
>>>
>>> You're in the UK so although we can make recommendations, I wouldn't
>>> know the availability there but maybe someone else will give it a shot
>>> when you provide the info above.
>>>
>>> Bob S.
>>>
>>>
>>> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:%23JSVWpGXHHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Could someone please recommend some basic graphics card and audio card
>>>> for vista ultimate. The existing cards have been rejected by the
>>>> upgrade advisor.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>



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Old 03-02-2007
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Re: Vista hardware advise
You may also encounter problems with that Soundblaster card...


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