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Old 02-12-2007
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SATA - PATA Hard drive issues
This forum is FULL of SATA and PATA issues, and everyone is trying to figure
out a solution......

My suggestion, after much troubleshooting, contacting motherboard
manufacture, and providing info to Microsoft, is as follows:

Microsoft should post that there IS a problem with the SATA/PATA within
VISTA, so Microsoft's customers can stop "beating their head against the
wall", and let Microsoft solve the issue......

I don't feel it is in the best interest of the customer to just let them
continue their unending pursuit of solving the SATA/PATA problem, after all
Microsoft is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Corporation, they should respond to their
customers...

In other words, Microsoft, tell us straight out, what the issues are and
what Microsoft is doing to resolve it.


No replies needed, just wanted Microsoft to have the opportunity to respond...



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Old 02-12-2007
JW
 

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Re: SATA - PATA Hard drive issues
This is a peer to peer forum for which MS supplies the servers. MS does not
activliy particapte in this forum and anytime you see a response from a MS
employee he is responding on his own time since no MS employees are paid to
respond here.
AFAIK the problem betwen Serial ATA Parallel ATA(IDE) drives are drive
controller vendor related since the Software interface in VISTA is to a ATA
drive and it is the controller that handles the actual physical drive
interface
"retired fire" <retiredfire@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8319D4F-D0E2-48E7-9896-723BD5E892CD@microsoft.com...
> This forum is FULL of SATA and PATA issues, and everyone is trying to
> figure
> out a solution......
>
> My suggestion, after much troubleshooting, contacting motherboard
> manufacture, and providing info to Microsoft, is as follows:
>
> Microsoft should post that there IS a problem with the SATA/PATA within
> VISTA, so Microsoft's customers can stop "beating their head against the
> wall", and let Microsoft solve the issue......
>
> I don't feel it is in the best interest of the customer to just let them
> continue their unending pursuit of solving the SATA/PATA problem, after
> all
> Microsoft is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Corporation, they should respond to
> their
> customers...
>
> In other words, Microsoft, tell us straight out, what the issues are and
> what Microsoft is doing to resolve it.
>
>
> No replies needed, just wanted Microsoft to have the opportunity to
> respond...
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup



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Old 02-12-2007
Donald McDaniel
 

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Re: SATA - PATA Hard drive issues
"retired fire" <retiredfire@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8319D4F-D0E2-48E7-9896-723BD5E892CD@microsoft.com...
> This forum is FULL of SATA and PATA issues, and everyone is trying to figure
> out a solution......
>
> My suggestion, after much troubleshooting, contacting motherboard
> manufacture, and providing info to Microsoft, is as follows:
>
> Microsoft should post that there IS a problem with the SATA/PATA within
> VISTA, so Microsoft's customers can stop "beating their head against the
> wall", and let Microsoft solve the issue......
>
> I don't feel it is in the best interest of the customer to just let them
> continue their unending pursuit of solving the SATA/PATA problem, after all
> Microsoft is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Corporation, they should respond to
> their
> customers...
>
> In other words, Microsoft, tell us straight out, what the issues are and
> what Microsoft is doing to resolve it.
>
>
> No replies needed, just wanted Microsoft to have the opportunity to
> respond...
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup



I have had no problems with SATA drives in Vista, even while it was in beta.
Of course, I had controllers which were made by large OEMS, rather than
unknown brands, and they provided decent drivers.

First on an Apple, then on my Dell.
No problems at all.

Try speaking to MICROSOFT Support, rather than to us.
You might also see if the manufacturer of your controller has updated drivers
which are Vista-compatible.

--
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Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
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Old 02-12-2007
BobS
 

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Re: SATA - PATA Hard drive issues
Daniel,

Did you try installing Vista x64 to a SATA drive? I can load the x86
version just fine to a SATA drive but the x64 version doesn't take after it
boots to finish the install. Everything is imaged to the drive and I load
in the latest nForce4 x64 drivers (v15) and you can't get there from here
with nForce drivers.

Bob S.


"Donald McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:ONX9fguTHHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "retired fire" <retiredfire@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A8319D4F-D0E2-48E7-9896-723BD5E892CD@microsoft.com...
>> This forum is FULL of SATA and PATA issues, and everyone is trying to
>> figure
>> out a solution......
>>
>> My suggestion, after much troubleshooting, contacting motherboard
>> manufacture, and providing info to Microsoft, is as follows:
>>
>> Microsoft should post that there IS a problem with the SATA/PATA within
>> VISTA, so Microsoft's customers can stop "beating their head against the
>> wall", and let Microsoft solve the issue......
>>
>> I don't feel it is in the best interest of the customer to just let them
>> continue their unending pursuit of solving the SATA/PATA problem, after
>> all
>> Microsoft is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Corporation, they should respond to
>> their
>> customers...
>>
>> In other words, Microsoft, tell us straight out, what the issues are and
>> what Microsoft is doing to resolve it.
>>
>>
>> No replies needed, just wanted Microsoft to have the opportunity to
>> respond...
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

>
>
> I have had no problems with SATA drives in Vista, even while it was in
> beta. Of course, I had controllers which were made by large OEMS, rather
> than unknown brands, and they provided decent drivers.
>
> First on an Apple, then on my Dell.
> No problems at all.
>
> Try speaking to MICROSOFT Support, rather than to us.
> You might also see if the manufacturer of your controller has updated
> drivers which are Vista-compatible.
>
> --
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
> ------------------------------------------------------
>



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Old 02-12-2007
=?Utf-8?B?cmV0aXJlZCBmaXJl?=
 

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Re: SATA - PATA Hard drive issues
Thanks for your comments, I have spoken to the manufacturers of my mother
board, and they indicated it was a problem with Vista, and Microsoft has
assigned a Case number for this issue..... If you knew the whole story (too
long to tell), you may better understand why so many customers are having
issues with SATA/PATA drives......... Oh, by the way, I have the latest
drivers also....

Thanks again for the comments... Hopefully we may hear from Microsoft on
this forum, as many of their employees post here......

"Donald McDaniel" wrote:

> "retired fire" <retiredfire@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A8319D4F-D0E2-48E7-9896-723BD5E892CD@microsoft.com...
> > This forum is FULL of SATA and PATA issues, and everyone is trying to figure
> > out a solution......
> >
> > My suggestion, after much troubleshooting, contacting motherboard
> > manufacture, and providing info to Microsoft, is as follows:
> >
> > Microsoft should post that there IS a problem with the SATA/PATA within
> > VISTA, so Microsoft's customers can stop "beating their head against the
> > wall", and let Microsoft solve the issue......
> >
> > I don't feel it is in the best interest of the customer to just let them
> > continue their unending pursuit of solving the SATA/PATA problem, after all
> > Microsoft is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Corporation, they should respond to
> > their
> > customers...
> >
> > In other words, Microsoft, tell us straight out, what the issues are and
> > what Microsoft is doing to resolve it.
> >
> >
> > No replies needed, just wanted Microsoft to have the opportunity to
> > respond...
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

>
>
> I have had no problems with SATA drives in Vista, even while it was in beta.
> Of course, I had controllers which were made by large OEMS, rather than
> unknown brands, and they provided decent drivers.
>
> First on an Apple, then on my Dell.
> No problems at all.
>
> Try speaking to MICROSOFT Support, rather than to us.
> You might also see if the manufacturer of your controller has updated drivers
> which are Vista-compatible.
>
> --
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>

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Old 02-13-2007
Donald McDaniel
 

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Re: SATA - PATA Hard drive issues
"BobS" <no-spam@noplace.com> wrote in message
news:Owp$nCvTHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Daniel,
>
> Did you try installing Vista x64 to a SATA drive? I can load the x86
> version just fine to a SATA drive but the x64 version doesn't take after it
> boots to finish the install. Everything is imaged to the drive and I load
> in the latest nForce4 x64 drivers (v15) and you can't get there from here
> with nForce drivers.
>
> Bob S.
>
>
> "Donald McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ONX9fguTHHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> "retired fire" <retiredfire@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A8319D4F-D0E2-48E7-9896-723BD5E892CD@microsoft.com...
>>> This forum is FULL of SATA and PATA issues, and everyone is trying to
>>> figure
>>> out a solution......
>>>
>>> My suggestion, after much troubleshooting, contacting motherboard
>>> manufacture, and providing info to Microsoft, is as follows:
>>>
>>> Microsoft should post that there IS a problem with the SATA/PATA within
>>> VISTA, so Microsoft's customers can stop "beating their head against the
>>> wall", and let Microsoft solve the issue......
>>>
>>> I don't feel it is in the best interest of the customer to just let them
>>> continue their unending pursuit of solving the SATA/PATA problem, after
>>> all
>>> Microsoft is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Corporation, they should respond to
>>> their
>>> customers...
>>>
>>> In other words, Microsoft, tell us straight out, what the issues are and
>>> what Microsoft is doing to resolve it.
>>>
>>>
>>> No replies needed, just wanted Microsoft to have the opportunity to
>>> respond...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>>> this
>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>
>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

>>
>>
>> I have had no problems with SATA drives in Vista, even while it was in
>> beta. Of course, I had controllers which were made by large OEMS, rather
>> than unknown brands, and they provided decent drivers.
>>
>> First on an Apple, then on my Dell.
>> No problems at all.
>>
>> Try speaking to MICROSOFT Support, rather than to us.
>> You might also see if the manufacturer of your controller has updated
>> drivers which are Vista-compatible.
>>
>> --
>> Donald L McDaniel
>> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>

>
>


Sorry. I can't afford the 64bit version. I don't have a large enough budget
to swing all the necessary hardware and software.

Does your SATA controller manufacturer have VISTA drivers on its webpage?

I don't like nVidia cards. I prefer ATI cards and drivers.

--
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Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
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Old 02-13-2007
Tom Lake
 

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Re: SATA - PATA Hard drive issues

"retired fire" <retiredfire@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8913A10F-C413-4272-8D3F-41B43CE69A71@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your comments, I have spoken to the manufacturers of my mother
> board, and they indicated it was a problem with Vista, and Microsoft has
> assigned a Case number for this issue..... If you knew the whole story
> (too
> long to tell), you may better understand why so many customers are having
> issues with SATA/PATA drives......... Oh, by the way, I have the latest
> drivers also....


I'll bet if you called MS, they'd say it was a problem with the hardware
manufacturer.

Tom Lake


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Old 02-13-2007
=?Utf-8?B?cmV0aXJlZCBmaXJl?=
 

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RE: SATA - PATA Hard drive issues
HUM, I guess none of the many MVP's or the usual posters from Microsoft have
anything to say........ I wonder why?????

"retired fire" wrote:

> This forum is FULL of SATA and PATA issues, and everyone is trying to figure
> out a solution......
>
> My suggestion, after much troubleshooting, contacting motherboard
> manufacture, and providing info to Microsoft, is as follows:
>
> Microsoft should post that there IS a problem with the SATA/PATA within
> VISTA, so Microsoft's customers can stop "beating their head against the
> wall", and let Microsoft solve the issue......
>
> I don't feel it is in the best interest of the customer to just let them
> continue their unending pursuit of solving the SATA/PATA problem, after all
> Microsoft is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Corporation, they should respond to their
> customers...
>
> In other words, Microsoft, tell us straight out, what the issues are and
> what Microsoft is doing to resolve it.
>
>
> No replies needed, just wanted Microsoft to have the opportunity to respond...
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

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Old 02-14-2007
Rock
 

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Re: SATA - PATA Hard drive issues
"retired fire" <retiredfire@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:65B2A58D-4DE1-4E42-8400-9F1382261692@microsoft.com...
> HUM, I guess none of the many MVP's or the usual posters from Microsoft
> have
> anything to say........ I wonder why?????
>
> "retired fire" wrote:
>
>> This forum is FULL of SATA and PATA issues, and everyone is trying to
>> figure
>> out a solution......
>>
>> My suggestion, after much troubleshooting, contacting motherboard
>> manufacture, and providing info to Microsoft, is as follows:
>>
>> Microsoft should post that there IS a problem with the SATA/PATA within
>> VISTA, so Microsoft's customers can stop "beating their head against the
>> wall", and let Microsoft solve the issue......
>>
>> I don't feel it is in the best interest of the customer to just let them
>> continue their unending pursuit of solving the SATA/PATA problem, after
>> all
>> Microsoft is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Corporation, they should respond to
>> their
>> customers...
>>
>> In other words, Microsoft, tell us straight out, what the issues are and
>> what Microsoft is doing to resolve it.
>>
>>
>> No replies needed, just wanted Microsoft to have the opportunity to
>> respond...


MVP's aren't Microsoft, it's an honorary title. You're last line says, "No
replies needed,..." If you want a response from MS this is not the
mechanism by which to get that.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/contactbug

http://support.microsoft.com/contactus/?WS=Wish

https://support.microsoft.com/common...-US%26q%3dwish

mshwish@microsoft.com

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/



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Old 02-14-2007
Adam Albright
 

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Re: SATA - PATA Hard drive issues
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:35:25 -0800, "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote:

>"retired fire" <retiredfire@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:65B2A58D-4DE1-4E42-8400-9F1382261692@microsoft.com...
>> HUM, I guess none of the many MVP's or the usual posters from Microsoft
>> have
>> anything to say........ I wonder why?????
>>
>> "retired fire" wrote:
>>
>>> This forum is FULL of SATA and PATA issues, and everyone is trying to
>>> figure
>>> out a solution......
>>>
>>> My suggestion, after much troubleshooting, contacting motherboard
>>> manufacture, and providing info to Microsoft, is as follows:
>>>
>>> Microsoft should post that there IS a problem with the SATA/PATA within
>>> VISTA, so Microsoft's customers can stop "beating their head against the
>>> wall", and let Microsoft solve the issue......
>>>
>>> I don't feel it is in the best interest of the customer to just let them
>>> continue their unending pursuit of solving the SATA/PATA problem, after
>>> all
>>> Microsoft is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Corporation, they should respond to
>>> their
>>> customers...
>>>
>>> In other words, Microsoft, tell us straight out, what the issues are and
>>> what Microsoft is doing to resolve it.
>>>
>>>
>>> No replies needed, just wanted Microsoft to have the opportunity to
>>> respond...

>


>MVP's aren't Microsoft, it's an honorary title.


Yep and meaningless since there is no formal testing of a MVP's
knowledge or skill level. New MVP's are picked by current MVP's or if
somebody at Microsoft thinks you'll be a good shill to offer up the
same threadbare tired excuses why Windows features don't work as
claimed. Why there aren't more current drivers included on the Windows
Vista DVD, and of course being good at trying to assign blame
exclusively at hardware vendors or software developers because we all
know Microsoft is perfect, their software never has bugs, never hangs,
chokes or just stops even in the middle of installing a new version of
Windows.

That of course explains why XP Service Pack 2 full version was nearly
250K. LOL!

Microsoft is like the Bush Adminstration. They never admit they did
anything wrong.


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