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How can I find out what the firewall issue is on a Printer?

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Old 03-30-2010
M Skabialka
 

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How can I find out what the firewall issue is on a Printer?
I was having problems reinstalling HP software for my All-In-One printer,
and HP Tech support had me add ten or fif**** programs to the Firewall as
allowed programs, plus about that many ports. I'm still having firewall
issues according to the HP networks diagnostic tool, and the HP software
does not "see" my printer on the network.
I can go to its IP address in Internet Explorer and see info about its
status, etc, and I can install basic drivers for other similar printers and
it will print, but not from the Full Software package that I need for OCR
scanning. It is listed under Printers and I can print a test page.
The HP Diagnostics has a AutoFix button but it doesn't fix the issue, and
doesn't say what is wrong. Until I had problem reinstalling the software it
had worked fine for two years.
How can I find out what the firewall issue is?


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Old 03-30-2010
Shenan Stanley
 

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Re: How can I find out what the firewall issue is on a Printer?
M Skabialka wrote:
> I was having problems reinstalling HP software for my All-In-One
> printer, and HP Tech support had me add ten or fif**** programs to
> the Firewall as allowed programs, plus about that many ports. I'm
> still having firewall issues according to the HP networks
> diagnostic tool, and the HP software does not "see" my printer on
> the network. I can go to its IP address in Internet Explorer and see info
> about
> its status, etc, and I can install basic drivers for other similar
> printers and it will print, but not from the Full Software package
> that I need for OCR scanning. It is listed under Printers and I
> can print a test page. The HP Diagnostics has a AutoFix button but it
> doesn't fix the
> issue, and doesn't say what is wrong. Until I had problem
> reinstalling the software it had worked fine for two years.
> How can I find out what the firewall issue is?


Does it work if you turn off your software firewall?

If not - it's not a firewall issue unless you have some other firewall
between you and the All-in-One.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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Old 03-30-2010
M Skabialka
 

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Re: How can I find out what the firewall issue is on a Printer?
I will try that, but I hope that is not the answer - I don't want the
firewall off permanently!

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23r7nILC0KHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>M Skabialka wrote:
>> I was having problems reinstalling HP software for my All-In-One
>> printer, and HP Tech support had me add ten or fif**** programs to
>> the Firewall as allowed programs, plus about that many ports. I'm
>> still having firewall issues according to the HP networks
>> diagnostic tool, and the HP software does not "see" my printer on
>> the network. I can go to its IP address in Internet Explorer and see info
>> about
>> its status, etc, and I can install basic drivers for other similar
>> printers and it will print, but not from the Full Software package
>> that I need for OCR scanning. It is listed under Printers and I
>> can print a test page. The HP Diagnostics has a AutoFix button but it
>> doesn't fix the
>> issue, and doesn't say what is wrong. Until I had problem
>> reinstalling the software it had worked fine for two years.
>> How can I find out what the firewall issue is?

>
> Does it work if you turn off your software firewall?
>
> If not - it's not a firewall issue unless you have some other firewall
> between you and the All-in-One.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>



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Old 03-31-2010
Gene E. Bloch
 

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Re: How can I find out what the firewall issue is on a Printer?
Shenan Stanley's suggestion was for a *test* to isolate the problem.

You might also want to (temporarily) disable your router's firewall as a
second test.

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:36:11 -0500, M Skabialka wrote:

> I will try that, but I hope that is not the answer - I don't want the
> firewall off permanently!
>
> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23r7nILC0KHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>M Skabialka wrote:
>>> I was having problems reinstalling HP software for my All-In-One
>>> printer, and HP Tech support had me add ten or fif**** programs to
>>> the Firewall as allowed programs, plus about that many ports. I'm
>>> still having firewall issues according to the HP networks
>>> diagnostic tool, and the HP software does not "see" my printer on
>>> the network. I can go to its IP address in Internet Explorer and see info
>>> about
>>> its status, etc, and I can install basic drivers for other similar
>>> printers and it will print, but not from the Full Software package
>>> that I need for OCR scanning. It is listed under Printers and I
>>> can print a test page. The HP Diagnostics has a AutoFix button but it
>>> doesn't fix the
>>> issue, and doesn't say what is wrong. Until I had problem
>>> reinstalling the software it had worked fine for two years.
>>> How can I find out what the firewall issue is?

>>
>> Does it work if you turn off your software firewall?
>>
>> If not - it's not a firewall issue unless you have some other firewall
>> between you and the All-in-One.
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>



--
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Old 03-31-2010
M Skabialka
 

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Re: How can I find out what the firewall issue is on a Printer?
Turning off the firewall made no difference.

The printer works with the original software from another PC.
It prints if I use generic drivers, but won't scan OCR.
It was running fine for two years before the software got corrupted and I
got fatal errors reinstalling it. I have updated software from HP but
firewall issues.
So how can the firewall block it under some software and not under others?

Back to my original question - how do I find out what is blocking it? The
HP Home Network Diagnostic Utility says "Network communication is not what
was expected. A firewall is still blocking communication." It says this
whether the firewall is running or not.


"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:nigbpvdk4aw9.1f51v0dxk1p71.dlg@40tude.net...
> Shenan Stanley's suggestion was for a *test* to isolate the problem.
>
> You might also want to (temporarily) disable your router's firewall as a
> second test.
>
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:36:11 -0500, M Skabialka wrote:
>
>> I will try that, but I hope that is not the answer - I don't want the
>> firewall off permanently!
>>
>> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23r7nILC0KHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>M Skabialka wrote:
>>>> I was having problems reinstalling HP software for my All-In-One
>>>> printer, and HP Tech support had me add ten or fif**** programs to
>>>> the Firewall as allowed programs, plus about that many ports. I'm
>>>> still having firewall issues according to the HP networks
>>>> diagnostic tool, and the HP software does not "see" my printer on
>>>> the network. I can go to its IP address in Internet Explorer and see
>>>> info
>>>> about
>>>> its status, etc, and I can install basic drivers for other similar
>>>> printers and it will print, but not from the Full Software package
>>>> that I need for OCR scanning. It is listed under Printers and I
>>>> can print a test page. The HP Diagnostics has a AutoFix button but it
>>>> doesn't fix the
>>>> issue, and doesn't say what is wrong. Until I had problem
>>>> reinstalling the software it had worked fine for two years.
>>>> How can I find out what the firewall issue is?
>>>
>>> Does it work if you turn off your software firewall?
>>>
>>> If not - it's not a firewall issue unless you have some other firewall
>>> between you and the All-in-One.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shenan Stanley
>>> MS-MVP
>>> --
>>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>

>
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom



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Old 03-31-2010
smlunatick
 

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Re: How can I find out what the firewall issue is on a Printer?
On Mar 31, 12:33*pm, "M Skabialka" <mskabia...@NOSPAMdrc.com> wrote:
> Turning off the firewall made no difference.
>
> The printer works with the original software from another PC.
> It prints if I use generic drivers, but won't scan OCR.
> It was running fine for two years before the software got corrupted and I
> got fatal errors reinstalling it. *I have updated software from HP but
> firewall issues.
> So how can the firewall block it under some software and not under others?
>
> Back to my original question - how do I find out what is blocking it? *The
> HP Home Network Diagnostic Utility says "Network communication is not what
> was expected. *A firewall is still blocking communication." *It says this
> whether the firewall is running or not.
>
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not...@other.invalid> wrote in messagenews:nigbpvdk4aw9.1f51v0dxk1p71.dlg@40tude. net...
>
> > Shenan Stanley's suggestion was for a *test* to isolate the problem.

>
> > You might also want to (temporarily) disable your router's firewall as a
> > second test.

>
> > On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:36:11 -0500, M Skabialka wrote:

>
> >> I will try that, but I hope that is not the answer - I don't want the
> >> firewall off permanently!

>
> >> "Shenan Stanley" <newshel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:%23r7nILC0KHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl.. .
> >>>M Skabialka wrote:
> >>>> I was having problems reinstalling HP software for my All-In-One
> >>>> printer, and HP Tech support had me add ten or fif**** programs to
> >>>> the Firewall as allowed programs, plus about that many ports. *I'm
> >>>> still having firewall issues according to the HP networks
> >>>> diagnostic tool, and the HP software does not "see" my printer on
> >>>> the network. I can go to its IP address in Internet Explorer and see
> >>>> info
> >>>> about
> >>>> its status, etc, and I can install basic drivers for other similar
> >>>> printers and it will print, but not from the Full Software package
> >>>> that I need for OCR scanning. *It is listed under Printers and I
> >>>> can print a test page. The HP Diagnostics has a AutoFix button but it
> >>>> doesn't fix the
> >>>> issue, and doesn't say what is wrong. *Until I had problem
> >>>> reinstalling the software it had worked fine for two years.
> >>>> How can I find out what the firewall issue is?

>
> >>> Does it work if you turn off your software firewall?

>
> >>> If not - it's not a firewall issue unless you have some other firewall
> >>> between you and the All-in-One.

>
> >>> --
> >>> Shenan Stanley
> >>> * * MS-MVP
> >>> --
> >>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> >>>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>
> > --
> > Gene E. Bloch * * *letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom


You may need to also check your anti-virus software settings. I have
seen some anti-virus software which have a "hidden" firewall like
module.
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Old 03-31-2010
M Skabialka
 

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Re: How can I find out what the firewall issue is on a Printer?
I am not sure how to check firewalls in Sophos AntiVirus.
However at one point I did turn it off and that made no difference.


"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5d07b55b-627d-4fda-83da-6aa3867c9fc9@g4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 31, 12:33 pm, "M Skabialka" <mskabia...@NOSPAMdrc.com> wrote:
> Turning off the firewall made no difference.
>
> The printer works with the original software from another PC.
> It prints if I use generic drivers, but won't scan OCR.
> It was running fine for two years before the software got corrupted and I
> got fatal errors reinstalling it. I have updated software from HP but
> firewall issues.
> So how can the firewall block it under some software and not under others?
>
> Back to my original question - how do I find out what is blocking it? The
> HP Home Network Diagnostic Utility says "Network communication is not what
> was expected. A firewall is still blocking communication." It says this
> whether the firewall is running or not.
>
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not...@other.invalid> wrote in
> messagenews:nigbpvdk4aw9.1f51v0dxk1p71.dlg@40tude. net...
>
> > Shenan Stanley's suggestion was for a *test* to isolate the problem.

>
> > You might also want to (temporarily) disable your router's firewall as a
> > second test.

>
> > On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:36:11 -0500, M Skabialka wrote:

>
> >> I will try that, but I hope that is not the answer - I don't want the
> >> firewall off permanently!

>
> >> "Shenan Stanley" <newshel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:%23r7nILC0KHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl.. .
> >>>M Skabialka wrote:
> >>>> I was having problems reinstalling HP software for my All-In-One
> >>>> printer, and HP Tech support had me add ten or fif**** programs to
> >>>> the Firewall as allowed programs, plus about that many ports. I'm
> >>>> still having firewall issues according to the HP networks
> >>>> diagnostic tool, and the HP software does not "see" my printer on
> >>>> the network. I can go to its IP address in Internet Explorer and see
> >>>> info
> >>>> about
> >>>> its status, etc, and I can install basic drivers for other similar
> >>>> printers and it will print, but not from the Full Software package
> >>>> that I need for OCR scanning. It is listed under Printers and I
> >>>> can print a test page. The HP Diagnostics has a AutoFix button but it
> >>>> doesn't fix the
> >>>> issue, and doesn't say what is wrong. Until I had problem
> >>>> reinstalling the software it had worked fine for two years.
> >>>> How can I find out what the firewall issue is?

>
> >>> Does it work if you turn off your software firewall?

>
> >>> If not - it's not a firewall issue unless you have some other firewall
> >>> between you and the All-in-One.

>
> >>> --
> >>> Shenan Stanley
> >>> MS-MVP
> >>> --
> >>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> >>>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>
> > --
> > Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom


You may need to also check your anti-virus software settings. I have
seen some anti-virus software which have a "hidden" firewall like
module.


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Old 04-30-2010
+Bob+
 

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Re: How can I find out what the firewall issue is on a Printer?
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:53:25 -0500, "M Skabialka"
<mskabialka@NOSPAMdrc.com> wrote:

>I am not sure how to check firewalls in Sophos AntiVirus.
>However at one point I did turn it off and that made no difference.


HP is famous for crappy software when any bi-directional communication
to their printers is involved. They're also famous for not fixing the
problems when they occur, especially when an OS update breaks things.

You can try shutting off your A/V just for testing and see if it
helps. My guess is that the HP software is having a communication
issue and is throwing the "firewall" message as a generic response to
any communication problem.
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