Why doens't ATI post new drivers to Windows Update/ Update Catalog

When you use Device Manager to check for a new ATI driver, in this
case for an x1600 Pro, Windows Update reports the latest version is
installed version 8.391.0.0 dated 6/26/2007.

But according to ATI's Web site, the latest version is 8.9.

Why doesn't ATI push the latest driver to Windows Update -- so it
would be easy for everyone to make sure they have the latest driver --
and to easily install it?

Because Microsoft only posts certified updates. Because of that you have to
wait until the new driver has passed the lab tests and gets certified by
Microsoft before they'll post it.


"md" <mdkrantz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> When you use Device Manager to check for a new ATI driver, in this
> case for an x1600 Pro, Windows Update reports the latest version is
> installed version 8.391.0.0 dated 6/26/2007.
>
> But according to ATI's Web site, the latest version is 8.9.
>
> Why doesn't ATI push the latest driver to Windows Update -- so it
> would be easy for everyone to make sure they have the latest driver --
> and to easily install it?

I see. Had a couple of follow-up questions that are related to this
matter.

I've noticed that when I import MS-DVR files into Windows Movie Maker,
I get audio, but no video.

1. Is it possible that the later ATI driver might fix this?
2. Is it worth the risk of installing a driver that's not Windows
certified?
3. If you're not able to use Windows Update, how do you uninstall the
old driver before installing the new one?

Thanks!

I'm pretty sure that the 8.9 package is WHQL certified.

Actual return address is at comcast dot net.

"Rich." <rcres@XXcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:9vOdndgsM4E9CkjVnZ2dnUVZ_qfinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Because Microsoft only posts certified updates. Because of that you have
> to wait until the new driver has passed the lab tests and gets certified
> by Microsoft before they'll post it.
>
>
> "md" <mdkrantz@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2f238f47-178f-4f9f-854f-f1da2b3da940@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>> When you use Device Manager to check for a new ATI driver, in this
>> case for an x1600 Pro, Windows Update reports the latest version is
>> installed version 8.391.0.0 dated 6/26/2007.
>>
>> But according to ATI's Web site, the latest version is 8.9.
>>
>> Why doesn't ATI push the latest driver to Windows Update -- so it
>> would be easy for everyone to make sure they have the latest driver --
>> and to easily install it?
>

So, to upgrade the driver, instead of using Windows Update, one would
double-click on the executable: 8-9_vista32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_68905?

One should always use the vendors site for graphics and tuner drivers since
the most recent Win Update drivers are often way out of date and may be
incompatible with your current configuration.
"md" <mdkrantz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> So, to upgrade the driver, instead of using Windows Update, one would
> double-click on the executable: 8-9_vista32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_68905?

All the windows cert means is that the drivers can be installed and that
they do not violate any windows security. MS does not certify that the
drivers work as documented.
"md" <mdkrantz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e02ef523-7e39-4ec6-9f9a-c877af9b1b36@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>I see. Had a couple of follow-up questions that are related to this
> matter.
>
> I've noticed that when I import MS-DVR files into Windows Movie Maker,
> I get audio, but no video.
>
> 1. Is it possible that the later ATI driver might fix this?
> 2. Is it worth the risk of installing a driver that's not Windows
> certified?
> 3. If you're not able to use Windows Update, how do you uninstall the
> old driver before installing the new one?
>
> Thanks!

"md" <mdkrantz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:66555ad5-7cdc-41cc-a085-f6308b73a740@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> So, to upgrade the driver, instead of using Windows Update, one would
> double-click on the executable: 8-9_vista32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_68905?


I'd suggest that you download the drivers to your local hard drive and
install from there. Two reasons: one less variable to deal with during the
install (your internet connection), and you'll then have the drivers handy
should a reinstall be necessary later.

md;841191 Wrote:
> I see. Had a couple of follow-up questions that are related to this
> matter.
>
> I've noticed that when I import MS-DVR files into Windows Movie Maker,
> I get audio, but no video.
>
> 1. Is it possible that the later ATI driver might fix this?
> 2. Is it worth the risk of installing a driver that's not Windows
> certified?
> 3. If you're not able to use Windows Update, how do you uninstall the
> old driver before installing the new one?
>
> Thanks!

I would check with the release notes from the driver set here to see if
your issue is a known problem or resolved...

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...ase_notes.html

If not, contact the ATI Driver Support Team here :

'Catalyst Crew Feedback Program'
(http://ati.supportcenteronline.com/i...D=486&type=web)


--
Cyberwolf

While technically correct, this is not the actual reason.

Almost all versions of the ATI drivers have gone throught the WHQL process,
and anything that ATI/AMD posts to their website will be WHQL signed.

The reason that ATI does not want to post drivers to WU is because ATI does
not sell hardware directly to consumers. ATI/AMD sells hardware to
resellers and to OEMs, who in turn support the end user. If ATI were to
post a bad driver to WU, OEMs like Dell would get the support call. This is
the same deal for most hardware manufacturers.

Here is a useful bit of information related to PCI hardwareIDs:

The full PCI hardwareID of a device will contain information about who
manufactured a device, and who the manufacturer resold the device to:

Example:

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0422&SUBSYS_C7353842&REV_A1

VEN_10DE is the PCI registration for NVIDIA INC. The Subsystem Vendor ID
(3842, in this case) is the company NVIDIA resold the chipset to. A visit
to www.pcisig.com (membership tab, vidsearch menu option) tells me that 3842
is the hex value for "eVGA.com Corporation". It is this corporation that is
really responsible for providing me driver updates.


"Rich." <rcres@XXcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:9vOdndgsM4E9CkjVnZ2dnUVZ_qfinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Because Microsoft only posts certified updates. Because of that you have
> to wait until the new driver has passed the lab tests and gets certified
> by Microsoft before they'll post it.
>
>
> "md" <mdkrantz@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2f238f47-178f-4f9f-854f-f1da2b3da940@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>> When you use Device Manager to check for a new ATI driver, in this
>> case for an x1600 Pro, Windows Update reports the latest version is
>> installed version 8.391.0.0 dated 6/26/2007.
>>
>> But according to ATI's Web site, the latest version is 8.9.
>>
>> Why doesn't ATI push the latest driver to Windows Update -- so it
>> would be easy for everyone to make sure they have the latest driver --
>> and to easily install it?
>