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Old 11-17-2007
vertigo
 

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Ethernet cable + system process bug
I'd like to fill an official bug report concerning an ethernet cable + system
process bug. Where to go?
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Old 11-17-2007
Richard Urban
 

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Re: Ethernet cable + system process bug
Why don't you state what the problem is? You may well find out that it is
not a bug but an anomaly in just 'your" system. Then we can help you.

There are just too many hundreds of thousands of people using Ethernet
successfully to think that you have found a bug - but it IS possible.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"vertigo" <vertigo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'd like to fill an official bug report concerning an ethernet cable +
> system
> process bug. Where to go?


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Old 11-17-2007
vertigo
 

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Re: Ethernet cable + system process bug

When my ethernet cable is plugged in the "system process" (PID 4) uses up to
30% CPU power, it tends to fluctuate a bit. Its a broadcom chipset, drivers
are up to date. Problem does not happen with Wifi connections. Cant find much
about this on the internet other than "System process using lots of CPU" and
i think i found where it came from.
I think its something with the broadcom -> vista drivers since thats what
"system" does as far as i know.

CPU = 2x 1.8Ghz
Vista = Home Basic

ps. is there a solve for the "power cable plugged out during hibernating ->
resume from hibernate = hang on login screen" solve?

"Richard Urban" wrote:

> Why don't you state what the problem is? You may well find out that it is
> not a bug but an anomaly in just 'your" system. Then we can help you.
>
> There are just too many hundreds of thousands of people using Ethernet
> successfully to think that you have found a bug - but it IS possible.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
>
> "vertigo" <vertigo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7774B446-744F-46B6-841A-D7E8A2B70790@microsoft.com...
> > I'd like to fill an official bug report concerning an ethernet cable +
> > system
> > process bug. Where to go?

>
>

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Old 11-17-2007
vertigo
 

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Re: Ethernet cable + system process bug

Another thing to note:
Its a HP Compaq 6710s notebook.
Usually using wifi, problem does since the day I bought it though, took me a
while to find the source!
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Old 11-18-2007
Barb Bowman
 

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Re: Ethernet cable + system process bug
1. have you checked for a BIOS update?
2. checked for a video driver update?
3. checked for a NIC driver update?
4. applied all available windows updates?
5. ruled out that your antivirus is interfering and causing issues?
(what AV and firewall are you using?)
6. what is the computer connected TO?

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:37:01 -0800, vertigo
<vertigo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>When my ethernet cable is plugged in the "system process" (PID 4) uses up to
>30% CPU power, it tends to fluctuate a bit. Its a broadcom chipset, drivers
>are up to date. Problem does not happen with Wifi connections. Cant find much
>about this on the internet other than "System process using lots of CPU" and
>i think i found where it came from.
>I think its something with the broadcom -> vista drivers since thats what
>"system" does as far as i know.
>
>CPU = 2x 1.8Ghz
>Vista = Home Basic
>
>ps. is there a solve for the "power cable plugged out during hibernating ->
>resume from hibernate = hang on login screen" solve?
>
>"Richard Urban" wrote:
>
>> Why don't you state what the problem is? You may well find out that it is
>> not a bug but an anomaly in just 'your" system. Then we can help you.
>>
>> There are just too many hundreds of thousands of people using Ethernet
>> successfully to think that you have found a bug - but it IS possible.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>>
>>
>> "vertigo" <vertigo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7774B446-744F-46B6-841A-D7E8A2B70790@microsoft.com...
>> > I'd like to fill an official bug report concerning an ethernet cable +
>> > system
>> > process bug. Where to go?

>>
>>

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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Old 11-20-2007
nuno.agapito@gmail.com
 

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Re: Ethernet cable + system process bug
I have the same problem!

Since I bought it the processor was always in the 20-30% but I didn't
make case

I only noticed this weekend when I installed VS 2008 Beta and the cpu
goes too 60% with cable and without cable goes to 2-3%...

I removed VS2008 and .net 3.5 and back to the normal "20-30%"...

I have a 2x2.2GHz and running Vista Business x64

I don't think the problem is a video driver, AV or firewall. if so,
the problem should happen to with wireless. The NIC driver... is the
latest and with all the windows updates installed.

I have the computer connected to a ADSL router with several other
computers. I disconnect the ADSL cable and all the other computers
cable connected to the router to test if the cause of the cpu is for
managing some not supposed traffic that the computer received.

No difference.

The process that fires when I connect the cable is the System process.
When I connect the cable, the process creates two new threads that
generates the work. The threads are from the ntoskrnl executable.

This thing is making my computer unstable when with some work, as
System process as priority....

It's weird that nobody else as noticed this...

Nuno Agapito

On Nov 18, 11:15 am, Barb Bowman <b...@nospam.com> wrote:
> 1. have you checked for a BIOS update?
> 2. checked for a video driver update?
> 3. checked for a NIC driver update?
> 4. applied all available windows updates?
> 5. ruled out that your antivirus is interfering and causing issues?
> (what AV and firewall are you using?)
> 6. what is the computer connected TO?
>
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:37:01 -0800, vertigo
>
>
>
> <vert...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >When my ethernet cable is plugged in the "system process" (PID 4) uses up to
> >30% CPU power, it tends to fluctuate a bit. Its a broadcom chipset, drivers
> >are up to date. Problem does not happen with Wifi connections. Cant find much
> >about this on the internet other than "System process using lots of CPU" and
> >i think i found where it came from.
> >I think its something with the broadcom -> vista drivers since thats what
> >"system" does as far as i know.

>
> >CPU = 2x 1.8Ghz
> >Vista = Home Basic

>
> >ps. is there a solve for the "power cable plugged out during hibernating ->
> >resume from hibernate = hang on login screen" solve?

>
> >"Richard Urban" wrote:

>
> >> Why don't you state what the problem is? You may well find out that it is
> >> not a bug but an anomaly in just 'your" system. Then we can help you.

>
> >> There are just too many hundreds of thousands of people using Ethernet
> >> successfully to think that you have found a bug - but it IS possible.

>
> >> --

>
> >> Regards,

>
> >> Richard Urban
> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> >> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

>
> >> "vertigo" <vert...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>news:7774B446-744F-46B6-841A-D7E8A2B70790@microsoft.com...
> >> > I'd like to fill an official bug report concerning an ethernet cable +
> >> > system
> >> > process bug. Where to go?

>
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


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Old 11-20-2007
nuno.agapito@gmail.com
 

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Re: Ethernet cable + system process bug
Update:

I uninstalled two more programs(I was going to uninstall something
about my cellphone and this two goes first):

..net compact framework 2.0(forgotten from VS 2008)
a download manager that I even remember is name(uninstaled 5 minutes
ago... thats life)

then I remember to plug the cable before targeting the cellphone
software and... I have a 2-4% smooth processor!

Again.... Weird!!!

Hope this helps!

On Nov 20, 12:39 am, nuno.agap...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have the same problem!
>
> Since I bought it the processor was always in the 20-30% but I didn't
> make case
>
> I only noticed this weekend when I installed VS 2008 Beta and the cpu
> goes too 60% with cable and without cable goes to 2-3%...
>
> I removed VS2008 and .net 3.5 and back to the normal "20-30%"...
>
> I have a 2x2.2GHz and running Vista Business x64
>
> I don't think the problem is a video driver, AV or firewall. if so,
> the problem should happen to with wireless. The NIC driver... is the
> latest and with all the windows updates installed.
>
> I have the computer connected to a ADSL router with several other
> computers. I disconnect the ADSL cable and all the other computers
> cable connected to the router to test if the cause of the cpu is for
> managing some not supposed traffic that the computer received.
>
> No difference.
>
> The process that fires when I connect the cable is the System process.
> When I connect the cable, the process creates two new threads that
> generates the work. The threads are from the ntoskrnl executable.
>
> This thing is making my computer unstable when with some work, as
> System process as priority....
>
> It's weird that nobody else as noticed this...
>
> Nuno Agapito
>
> On Nov 18, 11:15 am, Barb Bowman <b...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > 1. have you checked for a BIOS update?
> > 2. checked for a video driver update?
> > 3. checked for a NIC driver update?
> > 4. applied all available windows updates?
> > 5. ruled out that your antivirus is interfering and causing issues?
> > (what AV and firewall are you using?)
> > 6. what is the computer connected TO?

>
> > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:37:01 -0800, vertigo

>
> > <vert...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
> > >When my ethernet cable is plugged in the "system process" (PID 4) uses up to
> > >30% CPU power, it tends to fluctuate a bit. Its a broadcom chipset, drivers
> > >are up to date. Problem does not happen with Wifi connections. Cant find much
> > >about this on the internet other than "System process using lots of CPU" and
> > >i think i found where it came from.
> > >I think its something with the broadcom -> vista drivers since thats what
> > >"system" does as far as i know.

>
> > >CPU = 2x 1.8Ghz
> > >Vista = Home Basic

>
> > >ps. is there a solve for the "power cable plugged out during hibernating ->
> > >resume from hibernate = hang on login screen" solve?

>
> > >"Richard Urban" wrote:

>
> > >> Why don't you state what the problem is? You may well find out that it is
> > >> not a bug but an anomaly in just 'your" system. Then we can help you.

>
> > >> There are just too many hundreds of thousands of people using Ethernet
> > >> successfully to think that you have found a bug - but it IS possible.

>
> > >> --

>
> > >> Regards,

>
> > >> Richard Urban
> > >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> > >> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

>
> > >> "vertigo" <vert...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:7774B446-744F-46B6-841A-D7E8A2B70790@microsoft.com...
> > >> > I'd like to fill an official bug report concerning an ethernet cable +
> > >> > system
> > >> > process bug. Where to go?

>
> > --

>
> > Barb Bowman
> > MS Windows-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx...


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Old 11-20-2007
Barb Bowman
 

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Re: Ethernet cable + system process bug
thanks for the information.

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:09:57 -0800 (PST), nuno.agapito@gmail.com
wrote:

>Update:
>
>I uninstalled two more programs(I was going to uninstall something
>about my cellphone and this two goes first):
>
>.net compact framework 2.0(forgotten from VS 2008)
>a download manager that I even remember is name(uninstaled 5 minutes
>ago... thats life)
>
>then I remember to plug the cable before targeting the cellphone
>software and... I have a 2-4% smooth processor!
>
>Again.... Weird!!!
>
>Hope this helps!
>
>On Nov 20, 12:39 am, nuno.agap...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I have the same problem!
>>
>> Since I bought it the processor was always in the 20-30% but I didn't
>> make case
>>
>> I only noticed this weekend when I installed VS 2008 Beta and the cpu
>> goes too 60% with cable and without cable goes to 2-3%...
>>
>> I removed VS2008 and .net 3.5 and back to the normal "20-30%"...
>>
>> I have a 2x2.2GHz and running Vista Business x64
>>
>> I don't think the problem is a video driver, AV or firewall. if so,
>> the problem should happen to with wireless. The NIC driver... is the
>> latest and with all the windows updates installed.
>>
>> I have the computer connected to a ADSL router with several other
>> computers. I disconnect the ADSL cable and all the other computers
>> cable connected to the router to test if the cause of the cpu is for
>> managing some not supposed traffic that the computer received.
>>
>> No difference.
>>
>> The process that fires when I connect the cable is the System process.
>> When I connect the cable, the process creates two new threads that
>> generates the work. The threads are from the ntoskrnl executable.
>>
>> This thing is making my computer unstable when with some work, as
>> System process as priority....
>>
>> It's weird that nobody else as noticed this...
>>
>> Nuno Agapito
>>
>> On Nov 18, 11:15 am, Barb Bowman <b...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> > 1. have you checked for a BIOS update?
>> > 2. checked for a video driver update?
>> > 3. checked for a NIC driver update?
>> > 4. applied all available windows updates?
>> > 5. ruled out that your antivirus is interfering and causing issues?
>> > (what AV and firewall are you using?)
>> > 6. what is the computer connected TO?

>>
>> > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:37:01 -0800, vertigo

>>
>> > <vert...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>
>> > >When my ethernet cable is plugged in the "system process" (PID 4) uses up to
>> > >30% CPU power, it tends to fluctuate a bit. Its a broadcom chipset, drivers
>> > >are up to date. Problem does not happen with Wifi connections. Cant find much
>> > >about this on the internet other than "System process using lots of CPU" and
>> > >i think i found where it came from.
>> > >I think its something with the broadcom -> vista drivers since thats what
>> > >"system" does as far as i know.

>>
>> > >CPU = 2x 1.8Ghz
>> > >Vista = Home Basic

>>
>> > >ps. is there a solve for the "power cable plugged out during hibernating ->
>> > >resume from hibernate = hang on login screen" solve?

>>
>> > >"Richard Urban" wrote:

>>
>> > >> Why don't you state what the problem is? You may well find out that it is
>> > >> not a bug but an anomaly in just 'your" system. Then we can help you.

>>
>> > >> There are just too many hundreds of thousands of people using Ethernet
>> > >> successfully to think that you have found a bug - but it IS possible.

>>
>> > >> --

>>
>> > >> Regards,

>>
>> > >> Richard Urban
>> > >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> > >> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

>>
>> > >> "vertigo" <vert...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > >>news:7774B446-744F-46B6-841A-D7E8A2B70790@microsoft.com...
>> > >> > I'd like to fill an official bug report concerning an ethernet cable +
>> > >> > system
>> > >> > process bug. Where to go?

>>
>> > --

>>
>> > Barb Bowman
>> > MS Windows-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx...

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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Old 11-21-2007
vertigo
 

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Re: Ethernet cable + system process bug

Had a few days off .

Great to see there are more people with the same issue, (then i know its not
my config! :P)

Driver status:
100% up to date, checked by hand

Items always running:
- Kaspersky Antivirus / NOD32 (changed a few days ago)
- O&O Defrag
- Live Messenger
- HP tools
- Windows Live messenger

Other things to note:
- Manully killed the entire Vista defence set (doesnt start on boot) since
its *
- Router is a Linksys WRT54G, also occurs with a WRT54GL, DDwrt patched.

NOT using VS 2008 Beta, never installed either.




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Old 11-22-2007
Barb Bowman
 

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Re: Ethernet cable + system process bug
not the same issues. can you disable O&O Defrag temporarily and see
what happens?

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:33:00 -0800, vertigo
<vertigo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>Had a few days off .
>
>Great to see there are more people with the same issue, (then i know its not
>my config! :P)
>
>Driver status:
>100% up to date, checked by hand
>
>Items always running:
>- Kaspersky Antivirus / NOD32 (changed a few days ago)
>- O&O Defrag
>- Live Messenger
>- HP tools
>- Windows Live messenger
>
>Other things to note:
>- Manully killed the entire Vista defence set (doesnt start on boot) since
>its *
>- Router is a Linksys WRT54G, also occurs with a WRT54GL, DDwrt patched.
>
>NOT using VS 2008 Beta, never installed either.
>
>
>

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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