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Can anyone tell me why UAC prevents java applets like chat windows in IE7 to
not work? By not work, I mean when the webpage loads, there is a small box
with a red "x" in it. I have installed the newest version of Sun java's
software that supposedly they say is compatible with Vista. I uninstalled it
and reinstalled it twice with no error messages, but still these will not
work. This behavior has just started several days ago. To me, I shouldn't
have to compromise security to get java applets to work- that doesn't make
sense. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Oh- I am running
Windows Vista Home Premium.

"Cammac468" <Cammac468@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:48C0B0BA-5B54-422F-B702-4B111A6C18A1@microsoft.com...
> Can anyone tell me why UAC prevents java applets like chat windows in IE7
> to
> not work? By not work, I mean when the webpage loads, there is a small box
> with a red "x" in it. I have installed the newest version of Sun java's
> software that supposedly they say is compatible with Vista. I uninstalled
> it
> and reinstalled it twice with no error messages, but still these will not
> work. This behavior has just started several days ago. To me, I shouldn't
> have to compromise security to get java applets to work- that doesn't make
> sense. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Oh- I am running
> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>


The Red X just indicated that java or other type of web elements are not
loading.

Java is normally required so go here:

http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp

And make sure you download it and install it.



--
Ian

Ian Betts wrote:
>
>
> "Cammac468" <Cammac468@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:48C0B0BA-5B54-422F-B702-4B111A6C18A1@microsoft.com...
>> Can anyone tell me why UAC prevents java applets like chat windows in
>> IE7 to
>> not work? By not work, I mean when the webpage loads, there is a small
>> box
>> with a red "x" in it. I have installed the newest version of Sun java's
>> software that supposedly they say is compatible with Vista. I
>> uninstalled it
>> and reinstalled it twice with no error messages, but still these will not
>> work. This behavior has just started several days ago. To me, I shouldn't
>> have to compromise security to get java applets to work- that doesn't
>> make
>> sense. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Oh- I am running
>> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>>
>
>
> The Red X just indicated that java or other type of web elements are not
> loading.
>
> Java is normally required so go here:
>
> http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
>
> And make sure you download it and install it.
>
>
>

Example of Microsoft Fanboy's reading ability.

OP says "I uninstalled it and reinstalled it twice with no error
messages, but still these will not work".

Tech wizard fanboy replies "And make sure you download it and install it."

Ian read and understood it perfectly. He also gave a good possibility to fixing the issue that the OP is experiencing.
The Op has perfectly stated his\her issue and you do not need any or is there any error message with that issue of the red X.

--
Peter

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"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message news:%233o2Byc1HHA.5532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Ian Betts wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Cammac468" <Cammac468@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:48C0B0BA-5B54-422F-B702-4B111A6C18A1@microsoft.com...
>>> Can anyone tell me why UAC prevents java applets like chat windows in
>>> IE7 to
>>> not work? By not work, I mean when the webpage loads, there is a small
>>> box
>>> with a red "x" in it. I have installed the newest version of Sun java's
>>> software that supposedly they say is compatible with Vista. I
>>> uninstalled it
>>> and reinstalled it twice with no error messages, but still these will not
>>> work. This behavior has just started several days ago. To me, I shouldn't
>>> have to compromise security to get java applets to work- that doesn't
>>> make
>>> sense. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Oh- I am running
>>> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The Red X just indicated that java or other type of web elements are not
>> loading.
>>
>> Java is normally required so go here:
>>
>> http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
>>
>> And make sure you download it and install it.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Example of Microsoft Fanboy's reading ability.
>
> OP says "I uninstalled it and reinstalled it twice with no error
> messages, but still these will not work".
>
> Tech wizard fanboy replies "And make sure you download it and install it."

Peter Foldes wrote:
> Ian read and understood it perfectly. He also gave a good possibility to fixing the issue that the OP is experiencing.
> The Op has perfectly stated his\her issue and you do not need any or is there any error message with that issue of the red X.
>


The OP appears to be under the impression that he / she HAS installed
the necessary software, what else is the reference to "Sun's Java software".

What is achieved by telling them to download it again?

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:#3o2Byc1HHA.5532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Ian Betts wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Cammac468" <Cammac468@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:48C0B0BA-5B54-422F-B702-4B111A6C18A1@microsoft.com...
>>> Can anyone tell me why UAC prevents java applets like chat windows in
>>> IE7 to
>>> not work? By not work, I mean when the webpage loads, there is a small
>>> box
>>> with a red "x" in it. I have installed the newest version of Sun java's
>>> software that supposedly they say is compatible with Vista. I
>>> uninstalled it
>>> and reinstalled it twice with no error messages, but still these will
>>> not
>>> work. This behavior has just started several days ago. To me, I
>>> shouldn't
>>> have to compromise security to get java applets to work- that doesn't
>>> make
>>> sense. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Oh- I am running
>>> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The Red X just indicated that java or other type of web elements are not
>> loading.
>>
>> Java is normally required so go here:
>>
>> http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
>>
>> And make sure you download it and install it.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Example of Microsoft Fanboy's reading ability.
>
> OP says "I uninstalled it and reinstalled it twice with no error messages,
> but still these will not work".
>
> Tech wizard fanboy replies "And make sure you download it and install it."
>
Oh dear, are you really that dim. Yes, it was download twice. The user has
grave doubts. Reassurance is what was needed not your idiotic remark.

--
Ian

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:#NxauZd1HHA.5772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Peter Foldes wrote:
>> Ian read and understood it perfectly. He also gave a good possibility to
>> fixing the issue that the OP is experiencing.
>> The Op has perfectly stated his\her issue and you do not need any or is
>> there any error message with that issue of the red X.
>>
>
>
> The OP appears to be under the impression that he / she HAS installed the
> necessary software, what else is the reference to "Sun's Java software".
>
> What is achieved by telling them to download it again?
>
Everything is achieved by reassurance

--
Ian

Ian Betts wrote:
>
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:#NxauZd1HHA.5772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>> Ian read and understood it perfectly. He also gave a good possibility
>>> to fixing the issue that the OP is experiencing.
>>> The Op has perfectly stated his\her issue and you do not need any or
>>> is there any error message with that issue of the red X.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The OP appears to be under the impression that he / she HAS installed
>> the necessary software, what else is the reference to "Sun's Java
>> software".
>>
>> What is achieved by telling them to download it again?
>>
> Everything is achieved by reassurance
>
When one downloads and installs java, one can check that it is working
after the installation right at the download site. Just click the verify
button after the installation. That is where the reassurance should come
from.

--
norm

Ian Betts wrote:
>
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:#NxauZd1HHA.5772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>> Ian read and understood it perfectly. He also gave a good possibility
>>> to fixing the issue that the OP is experiencing.
>>> The Op has perfectly stated his\her issue and you do not need any or
>>> is there any error message with that issue of the red X.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The OP appears to be under the impression that he / she HAS installed
>> the necessary software, what else is the reference to "Sun's Java
>> software".
>>
>> What is achieved by telling them to download it again?
>>
> Everything is achieved by reassurance
>


So he / she repeats a procedure that apparently has already failed
twice. The implication being that you wish to reassure the user that he
/ she can't get it right?

Now, this week I was informed of a "Java" update that I downloaded and
installed, however in the listing it is named differently than other JRE
versions and so it's not clear whether the old JRE should be uninstalled
or simply left. It has been common practice to remove such leftover
runtimes since they can sometimes, if left installed, be called by
malware and the exploits the update was intended to stop can still be used.

I had not had time to research this, and I don't have access to that
machine at the moment and probably won't until Monday. It therefore
occurred to me that the OP's problem might be related, which is why I
read the reply.

So, I don't yet know the answer which is why I didn't reply to the OP,
but would it not be a good idea to find out if the old JRE should be
removed and the OP advised accordingly?

Hello...thanks for your replies. I am pretty sure that I read on java.com
that you did not have to uninstall older vers of java before installing the
latest version. Anyways, I did test the installation at the same website and
it tells me that I have the latest version. Maybe I need to send them a
message re this. I was thinking maybe there is somewhere in Vista that I
could authorize these applets to work, or maybe in Windows Defender??? Thanks
for your help.

"Ian Betts" wrote:

>
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:#3o2Byc1HHA.5532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Ian Betts wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> "Cammac468" <Cammac468@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:48C0B0BA-5B54-422F-B702-4B111A6C18A1@microsoft.com...
> >>> Can anyone tell me why UAC prevents java applets like chat windows in
> >>> IE7 to
> >>> not work? By not work, I mean when the webpage loads, there is a small
> >>> box
> >>> with a red "x" in it. I have installed the newest version of Sun java's
> >>> software that supposedly they say is compatible with Vista. I
> >>> uninstalled it
> >>> and reinstalled it twice with no error messages, but still these will
> >>> not
> >>> work. This behavior has just started several days ago. To me, I
> >>> shouldn't
> >>> have to compromise security to get java applets to work- that doesn't
> >>> make
> >>> sense. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Oh- I am running
> >>> Windows Vista Home Premium.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Red X just indicated that java or other type of web elements are not
> >> loading.
> >>
> >> Java is normally required so go here:
> >>
> >> http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
> >>
> >> And make sure you download it and install it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Example of Microsoft Fanboy's reading ability.
> >
> > OP says "I uninstalled it and reinstalled it twice with no error messages,
> > but still these will not work".
> >
> > Tech wizard fanboy replies "And make sure you download it and install it."
> >
> Oh dear, are you really that dim. Yes, it was download twice. The user has
> grave doubts. Reassurance is what was needed not your idiotic remark.
>
> --
> Ian
>