Programs with Vista

I cannot find a concise list of what programs are in the Vista Basic and the
Vista Home Premium. I know that in a Vista Home Premium I saw in action that
it had "WORD" and "Excel" in it, but WHERE is a SPECIFIC LIST of what those
two operating programs have in them?? All I find in Microsoft's website are
generalities. Thanks for any help.

Vista is an operating system, upon which YOU install programs that you
purchase. Word, Excel etc. do NOT come with Vista.

When you buy a PC in a store, the manufacturer may have preinstalled these
on the computer (sometimes only a 90 day trial, sometimes less). Look at the
computer sales literature to see what it comes with.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Roberto" <Roberto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news4C6108D-0AB9-4CCB-9F9C-6569A8E25828@microsoft.com...
>I cannot find a concise list of what programs are in the Vista Basic and
>the
> Vista Home Premium. I know that in a Vista Home Premium I saw in action
> that
> it had "WORD" and "Excel" in it, but WHERE is a SPECIFIC LIST of what
> those
> two operating programs have in them?? All I find in Microsoft's website
> are
> generalities. Thanks for any help.

FWIW, Office Home and Student 2007 is a great deal if you're just using it
for your home and don't need Outlook, Access, etc... Note: It is for
non-commercial use only.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116093

Art


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uv8lfZ1WHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Vista is an operating system, upon which YOU install programs that you
> purchase. Word, Excel etc. do NOT come with Vista.
>
> When you buy a PC in a store, the manufacturer may have preinstalled these
> on the computer (sometimes only a 90 day trial, sometimes less). Look at
> the computer sales literature to see what it comes with.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "Roberto" <Roberto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news4C6108D-0AB9-4CCB-9F9C-6569A8E25828@microsoft.com...
>>I cannot find a concise list of what programs are in the Vista Basic and
>>the
>> Vista Home Premium. I know that in a Vista Home Premium I saw in action
>> that
>> it had "WORD" and "Excel" in it, but WHERE is a SPECIFIC LIST of what
>> those
>> two operating programs have in them?? All I find in Microsoft's website
>> are
>> generalities. Thanks for any help.
>

Most of the programs that come pre-installed with Vista are in are in the
All Programs menu or one of its subfolders, so you can just look there. Or
open Control Panel and click Uninstall a Program to see a list of other
programs that are currently installed.

I don't know of a SPECIFIC LIST that shows them elsewhere.

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"Roberto" <Roberto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news4C6108D-0AB9-4CCB-9F9C-6569A8E25828@microsoft.com...
>I cannot find a concise list of what programs are in the Vista Basic and
>the
> Vista Home Premium. I know that in a Vista Home Premium I saw in action
> that
> it had "WORD" and "Excel" in it, but WHERE is a SPECIFIC LIST of what
> those
> two operating programs have in them?? All I find in Microsoft's website
> are
> generalities. Thanks for any help.

Sorry, wrong link. That was for Excel. The whole package is :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116135

About $130 USD.

Art


"Art" <dont@email.me> wrote in message
news:67975FD7-4528-4A97-84B2-BB9DB15D6933@microsoft.com...
> FWIW, Office Home and Student 2007 is a great deal if you're just using it
> for your home and don't need Outlook, Access, etc... Note: It is for
> non-commercial use only.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116093
>
> Art
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uv8lfZ1WHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Vista is an operating system, upon which YOU install programs that you
>> purchase. Word, Excel etc. do NOT come with Vista.
>>
>> When you buy a PC in a store, the manufacturer may have preinstalled
>> these on the computer (sometimes only a 90 day trial, sometimes less).
>> Look at the computer sales literature to see what it comes with.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "Roberto" <Roberto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news4C6108D-0AB9-4CCB-9F9C-6569A8E25828@microsoft.com...
>>>I cannot find a concise list of what programs are in the Vista Basic and
>>>the
>>> Vista Home Premium. I know that in a Vista Home Premium I saw in action
>>> that
>>> it had "WORD" and "Excel" in it, but WHERE is a SPECIFIC LIST of what
>>> those
>>> two operating programs have in them?? All I find in Microsoft's website
>>> are
>>> generalities. Thanks for any help.
>>
>

Roberto wrote:
> I cannot find a concise list of what programs are in the Vista Basic
> and the Vista Home Premium. I know that in a Vista Home Premium I saw
> in action that it had "WORD" and "Excel" in it, but WHERE is a
> SPECIFIC LIST of what those two operating programs have in them??
> All I find in Microsoft's website are generalities. Thanks for any
> help.

If there is a list it would be quite small right now...

Richard Urban wrote:
> Vista is an operating system, upon which YOU install programs that you
> purchase. Word, Excel etc. do NOT come with Vista.

Really? I have plenty of software that I have purchased that WILL not
run or even install in some cases.

So clearly it's not "you install programs that you purchase", but rather
it is "you buy the software you already have purchased all over
again"...

Given as therer is no logical reason to break compatibilty if software
that ran fine on XP (the last main version of Windows), it seems this
was only doen to help al lthe big 3rd parties make more money. It's a
sham no matter how you slice it.

> When you buy a PC in a store, the manufacturer may have preinstalled
> these on the computer (sometimes only a 90 day trial, sometimes
> less). Look at the computer sales literature to see what it comes
> with.

I'm not surprised there isn't a list of supported applications published
yet, as it would probably be embarrassingly short.




> "Roberto" <Roberto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news4C6108D-0AB9-4CCB-9F9C-6569A8E25828@microsoft.com...
> > I cannot find a concise list of what programs are in the Vista Basic
> > and the
> > Vista Home Premium. I know that in a Vista Home Premium I saw in
> > action that
> > it had "WORD" and "Excel" in it, but WHERE is a SPECIFIC LIST of
> > what
> > those
> > two operating programs have in them?? All I find in Microsoft's
> > website are
> > generalities. Thanks for any help.

There is every reason to break compatibility, if a older program is not
coded correctly.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Steve K." <savagebeaste@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:54lrr6F1ue6ibU1@mid.individual.net...
> Richard Urban wrote:
>> Vista is an operating system, upon which YOU install programs that you
>> purchase. Word, Excel etc. do NOT come with Vista.
>
> Really? I have plenty of software that I have purchased that WILL not run
> or even install in some cases.
>
> So clearly it's not "you install programs that you purchase", but rather
> it is "you buy the software you already have purchased all over again"...
>
> Given as therer is no logical reason to break compatibilty if software
> that ran fine on XP (the last main version of Windows), it seems this was
> only doen to help al lthe big 3rd parties make more money. It's a sham no
> matter how you slice it.
>
>> When you buy a PC in a store, the manufacturer may have preinstalled
>> these on the computer (sometimes only a 90 day trial, sometimes
>> less). Look at the computer sales literature to see what it comes
>> with.
>
> I'm not surprised there isn't a list of supported applications published
> yet, as it would probably be embarrassingly short.
>
>
>
>
>> "Roberto" <Roberto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news4C6108D-0AB9-4CCB-9F9C-6569A8E25828@microsoft.com...
>> > I cannot find a concise list of what programs are in the Vista Basic
>> > and the
>> > Vista Home Premium. I know that in a Vista Home Premium I saw in
>> > action that
>> > it had "WORD" and "Excel" in it, but WHERE is a SPECIFIC LIST of what
>> > those
>> > two operating programs have in them?? All I find in Microsoft's
>> > website are
>> > generalities. Thanks for any help.
>
>

And each is licensed for up to 3 PC's. $45/PC is a price even a lot of
casual pirates can swallow. I don't know why MS isn't making a bigger deal
out of this.

"Art" <dont@email.me> wrote in message
news:OV%23qAt1WHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Sorry, wrong link. That was for Excel. The whole package is :
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116135
>
> About $130 USD.
>
> Art
>
>
> "Art" <dont@email.me> wrote in message
> news:67975FD7-4528-4A97-84B2-BB9DB15D6933@microsoft.com...
>> FWIW, Office Home and Student 2007 is a great deal if you're just using
>> it for your home and don't need Outlook, Access, etc... Note: It is for
>> non-commercial use only.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116093
>>
>> Art
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uv8lfZ1WHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Vista is an operating system, upon which YOU install programs that you
>>> purchase. Word, Excel etc. do NOT come with Vista.
>>>
>>> When you buy a PC in a store, the manufacturer may have preinstalled
>>> these on the computer (sometimes only a 90 day trial, sometimes less).
>>> Look at the computer sales literature to see what it comes with.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>> "Roberto" <Roberto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news4C6108D-0AB9-4CCB-9F9C-6569A8E25828@microsoft.com...
>>>>I cannot find a concise list of what programs are in the Vista Basic and
>>>>the
>>>> Vista Home Premium. I know that in a Vista Home Premium I saw in action
>>>> that
>>>> it had "WORD" and "Excel" in it, but WHERE is a SPECIFIC LIST of what
>>>> those
>>>> two operating programs have in them?? All I find in Microsoft's
>>>> website are
>>>> generalities. Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>
>

Richard Urban wrote:
> There is every reason to break compatibility, if a older program is
> not coded correctly.

That is a generalization that likely doesn't apply to all programs out
there. Many worked fine. There was no reaso not "fix" what wasn't really
broken. Fact of the matter is many programs that run flawlessly on XP
just wont run on Vista.

And tell me why is it the vast majority of programs that wont run (or
run correctly) are the high profile applications (eg, Photoshop, Quick
Books, etc), but I've bene hard pressed to find less expensive or free
ware applications (even the more complex ones) that run just fine under
Vista, many of which still say they are meant for pre-Vista OSes.

It seems quite clear the real motivation of these software
"imcompatibilies" is greed... getting everyone to buy new softwares,
even if you already own it... for many people this sometimes amounts to
thousands of dollars in new software purchases, when the previous ones
worked just fine...


> "Steve K." <savagebeaste@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:54lrr6F1ue6ibU1@mid.individual.net...
> > Richard Urban wrote:
> > > Vista is an operating system, upon which YOU install programs that
> > > you purchase. Word, Excel etc. do NOT come with Vista.
> >
> > Really? I have plenty of software that I have purchased that WILL
> > not run or even install in some cases.
> >
> > So clearly it's not "you install programs that you purchase", but
> > rather it is "you buy the software you already have purchased all
> > over again"... Given as therer is no logical reason to break
> > compatibilty if
> > software that ran fine on XP (the last main version of Windows), it
> > seems this was only doen to help al lthe big 3rd parties make more
> > money. It's a sham no matter how you slice it.
> >
> > > When you buy a PC in a store, the manufacturer may have
> > > preinstalled
> > > these on the computer (sometimes only a 90 day trial, sometimes
> > > less). Look at the computer sales literature to see what it comes
> > > with.
> >
> > I'm not surprised there isn't a list of supported applications
> > published yet, as it would probably be embarrassingly short.