file transfer from Win98 to Vista?

Is there any good way to transfer files from a win98 box to a new Vista Home
Basic machine?

The '98 box has USB1.1 ports but no network support (modem only).

I looked at direct cable transfer (parallel port) but this support seems to
have ended in XP.

The USB direct transfer cables (belkin F5U258) seems to only work between XP
and Vista. Additionally, it appears on this cable that both processors have
to be the same.

Tried the easy transfer from Vista and made a disc to run in the old
machine. It gave wrong OS version when I used it in the 98 box. Wonder if I
can make a bootable CD that I can run on the 98 box?

Before I go crazy with burning CDs and using flash drives to move the files,
is there a better way?

Oppie wrote:
> Is there any good way to transfer files from a win98 box to a new Vista Home
> Basic machine?
>
> The '98 box has USB1.1 ports but no network support (modem only).
>
> I looked at direct cable transfer (parallel port) but this support seems to
> have ended in XP.
>
> The USB direct transfer cables (belkin F5U258) seems to only work between XP
> and Vista. Additionally, it appears on this cable that both processors have
> to be the same.
>
> Tried the easy transfer from Vista and made a disc to run in the old
> machine. It gave wrong OS version when I used it in the 98 box. Wonder if I
> can make a bootable CD that I can run on the 98 box?
>
> Before I go crazy with burning CDs and using flash drives to move the files,
> is there a better way?
>
>

You are correct that the Windows Easy Transfer will not work with Win98.
Either burn cd's, use flash drives, or pull the hard drive and slave it
in the new machine (or put it in an external hard drive enclosure and
connect via usb to the new machine).


Malke
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If you only want to transfer files you could remove the hard drive from the
98 system and connect it temporarily, jumper set to Slave, to the XP system.
Both systems must be turned off first. Connect the second drive. When you
boot the XP system the old drive should appear as drive D in My Computer.
You can copy the files across to the XP system. Shut down and disconnect the
old drive. Switch the jumper back to it's original position if you plan to
put it back in the 98 system. Or leave it connected to the XP system to use
as additional storage.

see here if you need to know how to connect the second drive
http://video.about.com/pcsupport/SecondIDEharddrive.htm

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Harry Ohrn
www.webtree.ca


"Oppie" <boppie@noapan-ludl.com> wrote in message
news:uLs3DynWHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Is there any good way to transfer files from a win98 box to a new Vista
> Home Basic machine?
>
> The '98 box has USB1.1 ports but no network support (modem only).
>
> I looked at direct cable transfer (parallel port) but this support seems
> to have ended in XP.
>
> The USB direct transfer cables (belkin F5U258) seems to only work between
> XP and Vista. Additionally, it appears on this cable that both processors
> have to be the same.
>
> Tried the easy transfer from Vista and made a disc to run in the old
> machine. It gave wrong OS version when I used it in the 98 box. Wonder if
> I can make a bootable CD that I can run on the 98 box?
>
> Before I go crazy with burning CDs and using flash drives to move the
> files, is there a better way?
>

I considered using the HD from the old computer in the new one. I've done
this before as long as everything was [E]IDE. The new box has a PATA hard
drive. I am unfamilliar with this standard and have to see how to it will
work. The Device manager on the new box shows an IDE controller so should
somehow work. Just will have to read the tech manual and open the case to
see what is available inside.
An IDE to USB converter is beginning to look attractive now.

Thanks - Oppie

"Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---@webtree.ca> wrote in message
news:eD3hHKoWHHA.4860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> If you only want to transfer files you could remove the hard drive from
> the 98 system and connect it temporarily, jumper set to Slave, to the XP
> system. Both systems must be turned off first. Connect the second drive.
> When you boot the XP system the old drive should appear as drive D in My
> Computer. You can copy the files across to the XP system. Shut down and
> disconnect the old drive. Switch the jumper back to it's original position
> if you plan to put it back in the 98 system. Or leave it connected to the
> XP system to use as additional storage.
>
> see here if you need to know how to connect the second drive
> http://video.about.com/pcsupport/SecondIDEharddrive.htm
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn
> www.webtree.ca
>
>
> "Oppie" <boppie@noapan-ludl.com> wrote in message
> news:uLs3DynWHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Is there any good way to transfer files from a win98 box to a new Vista
>> Home Basic machine?
>>
>> The '98 box has USB1.1 ports but no network support (modem only).
>>
>> I looked at direct cable transfer (parallel port) but this support seems
>> to have ended in XP.
>>
>> The USB direct transfer cables (belkin F5U258) seems to only work between
>> XP and Vista. Additionally, it appears on this cable that both processors
>> have to be the same.
>>
>> Tried the easy transfer from Vista and made a disc to run in the old
>> machine. It gave wrong OS version when I used it in the 98 box. Wonder if
>> I can make a bootable CD that I can run on the 98 box?
>>
>> Before I go crazy with burning CDs and using flash drives to move the
>> files, is there a better way?
>>
>

EIDE should work fine in a PATA system.
PATA name is now used to distinguish Parallel from Serial (SATA) drives.
An empty EIDE/USB external box can often be had very cheap if found on sale,
SATA is coming on strong so the EIDE units are 'old' now.

Michael


"Oppie" <boppie@noapan-ludl.com> wrote in message
news:%238kOgM0WHHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I considered using the HD from the old computer in the new one. I've done
>this before as long as everything was [E]IDE. The new box has a PATA hard
>drive. I am unfamilliar with this standard and have to see how to it will
>work. The Device manager on the new box shows an IDE controller so should
>somehow work. Just will have to read the tech manual and open the case to
>see what is available inside.
> An IDE to USB converter is beginning to look attractive now.
>
> Thanks - Oppie
>
> "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---@webtree.ca> wrote in message
> news:eD3hHKoWHHA.4860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> If you only want to transfer files you could remove the hard drive from
>> the 98 system and connect it temporarily, jumper set to Slave, to the XP
>> system. Both systems must be turned off first. Connect the second drive.
>> When you boot the XP system the old drive should appear as drive D in My
>> Computer. You can copy the files across to the XP system. Shut down and
>> disconnect the old drive. Switch the jumper back to it's original
>> position if you plan to put it back in the 98 system. Or leave it
>> connected to the XP system to use as additional storage.
>>
>> see here if you need to know how to connect the second drive
>> http://video.about.com/pcsupport/SecondIDEharddrive.htm
>>
>> --
>>
>> Harry Ohrn
>> www.webtree.ca
>>
>>
>> "Oppie" <boppie@noapan-ludl.com> wrote in message
>> news:uLs3DynWHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Is there any good way to transfer files from a win98 box to a new Vista
>>> Home Basic machine?
>>>
>>> The '98 box has USB1.1 ports but no network support (modem only).
>>>
>>> I looked at direct cable transfer (parallel port) but this support seems
>>> to have ended in XP.
>>>
>>> The USB direct transfer cables (belkin F5U258) seems to only work
>>> between XP and Vista. Additionally, it appears on this cable that both
>>> processors have to be the same.
>>>
>>> Tried the easy transfer from Vista and made a disc to run in the old
>>> machine. It gave wrong OS version when I used it in the 98 box. Wonder
>>> if I can make a bootable CD that I can run on the 98 box?
>>>
>>> Before I go crazy with burning CDs and using flash drives to move the
>>> files, is there a better way?
>>>
>>
>
>

Replace your CD/DVD drive with the hard drive. They should still be EIDE.

"Oppie" wrote:

> I considered using the HD from the old computer in the new one. I've done
> this before as long as everything was [E]IDE. The new box has a PATA hard
> drive. I am unfamilliar with this standard and have to see how to it will
> work. The Device manager on the new box shows an IDE controller so should
> somehow work. Just will have to read the tech manual and open the case to
> see what is available inside.
> An IDE to USB converter is beginning to look attractive now.
>
> Thanks - Oppie
>
> "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---@webtree.ca> wrote in message
> news:eD3hHKoWHHA.4860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > If you only want to transfer files you could remove the hard drive from
> > the 98 system and connect it temporarily, jumper set to Slave, to the XP
> > system. Both systems must be turned off first. Connect the second drive.
> > When you boot the XP system the old drive should appear as drive D in My
> > Computer. You can copy the files across to the XP system. Shut down and
> > disconnect the old drive. Switch the jumper back to it's original position
> > if you plan to put it back in the 98 system. Or leave it connected to the
> > XP system to use as additional storage.
> >
> > see here if you need to know how to connect the second drive
> > http://video.about.com/pcsupport/SecondIDEharddrive.htm
> >
> > --
> >
> > Harry Ohrn
> > www.webtree.ca
> >
> >
> > "Oppie" <boppie@noapan-ludl.com> wrote in message
> > news:uLs3DynWHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Is there any good way to transfer files from a win98 box to a new Vista
> >> Home Basic machine?
> >>
> >> The '98 box has USB1.1 ports but no network support (modem only).
> >>
> >> I looked at direct cable transfer (parallel port) but this support seems
> >> to have ended in XP.
> >>
> >> The USB direct transfer cables (belkin F5U258) seems to only work between
> >> XP and Vista. Additionally, it appears on this cable that both processors
> >> have to be the same.
> >>
> >> Tried the easy transfer from Vista and made a disc to run in the old
> >> machine. It gave wrong OS version when I used it in the 98 box. Wonder if
> >> I can make a bootable CD that I can run on the 98 box?
> >>
> >> Before I go crazy with burning CDs and using flash drives to move the
> >> files, is there a better way?
> >>
> >
>
>
>

Good to know - Thanks!
Wasn't sure that the PATA and EIDE were compatible.
I found listings for EIDE to USB adaptors including power source (less case)
for less than $20usd.
Oppie

"Michael" <mexxwalraven@verson.net> wrote in message
news:A6CCC9F6-90B1-4034-A286-182F35D36B13@microsoft.com...
> EIDE should work fine in a PATA system.
> PATA name is now used to distinguish Parallel from Serial (SATA) drives.
> An empty EIDE/USB external box can often be had very cheap if found on
> sale, SATA is coming on strong so the EIDE units are 'old' now.
>
> Michael
>
>
> "Oppie" <boppie@noapan-ludl.com> wrote in message
> news:%238kOgM0WHHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I considered using the HD from the old computer in the new one. I've done
>>this before as long as everything was [E]IDE. The new box has a PATA hard
>>drive. I am unfamilliar with this standard and have to see how to it will
>>work. The Device manager on the new box shows an IDE controller so should
>>somehow work. Just will have to read the tech manual and open the case to
>>see what is available inside.
>> An IDE to USB converter is beginning to look attractive now.
>>
>> Thanks - Oppie
>>
>> "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---@webtree.ca> wrote in message
>> news:eD3hHKoWHHA.4860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> If you only want to transfer files you could remove the hard drive from
>>> the 98 system and connect it temporarily, jumper set to Slave, to the XP
>>> system. Both systems must be turned off first. Connect the second drive.
>>> When you boot the XP system the old drive should appear as drive D in My
>>> Computer. You can copy the files across to the XP system. Shut down and
>>> disconnect the old drive. Switch the jumper back to it's original
>>> position if you plan to put it back in the 98 system. Or leave it
>>> connected to the XP system to use as additional storage.
>>>
>>> see here if you need to know how to connect the second drive
>>> http://video.about.com/pcsupport/SecondIDEharddrive.htm
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Harry Ohrn
>>> www.webtree.ca
>>>
>>>
>>> "Oppie" <boppie@noapan-ludl.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uLs3DynWHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is there any good way to transfer files from a win98 box to a new Vista
>>>> Home Basic machine?
>>>>
>>>> The '98 box has USB1.1 ports but no network support (modem only).
>>>>
>>>> I looked at direct cable transfer (parallel port) but this support
>>>> seems to have ended in XP.
>>>>
>>>> The USB direct transfer cables (belkin F5U258) seems to only work
>>>> between XP and Vista. Additionally, it appears on this cable that both
>>>> processors have to be the same.
>>>>
>>>> Tried the easy transfer from Vista and made a disc to run in the old
>>>> machine. It gave wrong OS version when I used it in the 98 box. Wonder
>>>> if I can make a bootable CD that I can run on the 98 box?
>>>>
>>>> Before I go crazy with burning CDs and using flash drives to move the
>>>> files, is there a better way?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Thank you for that option. Makes sense.
Oppie

"Bill Taylor" <BillTaylor@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:41D05E37-5FF1-4E60-8804-796CBE3D8A77@microsoft.com...
> Replace your CD/DVD drive with the hard drive. They should still be EIDE.
>
> "Oppie" wrote:
>
>> I considered using the HD from the old computer in the new one. I've done
>> this before as long as everything was [E]IDE. The new box has a PATA hard
>> drive. I am unfamilliar with this standard and have to see how to it will
>> work. The Device manager on the new box shows an IDE controller so should
>> somehow work. Just will have to read the tech manual and open the case to
>> see what is available inside.
>> An IDE to USB converter is beginning to look attractive now.
>>
>> Thanks - Oppie
>>
>> "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---@webtree.ca> wrote in message
>> news:eD3hHKoWHHA.4860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > If you only want to transfer files you could remove the hard drive from
>> > the 98 system and connect it temporarily, jumper set to Slave, to the
>> > XP
>> > system. Both systems must be turned off first. Connect the second
>> > drive.
>> > When you boot the XP system the old drive should appear as drive D in
>> > My
>> > Computer. You can copy the files across to the XP system. Shut down and
>> > disconnect the old drive. Switch the jumper back to it's original
>> > position
>> > if you plan to put it back in the 98 system. Or leave it connected to
>> > the
>> > XP system to use as additional storage.
>> >
>> > see here if you need to know how to connect the second drive
>> > http://video.about.com/pcsupport/SecondIDEharddrive.htm
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Harry Ohrn
>> > www.webtree.ca
>> >
>> >
>> > "Oppie" <boppie@noapan-ludl.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uLs3DynWHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> Is there any good way to transfer files from a win98 box to a new
>> >> Vista
>> >> Home Basic machine?
>> >>
>> >> The '98 box has USB1.1 ports but no network support (modem only).
>> >>
>> >> I looked at direct cable transfer (parallel port) but this support
>> >> seems
>> >> to have ended in XP.
>> >>
>> >> The USB direct transfer cables (belkin F5U258) seems to only work
>> >> between
>> >> XP and Vista. Additionally, it appears on this cable that both
>> >> processors
>> >> have to be the same.
>> >>
>> >> Tried the easy transfer from Vista and made a disc to run in the old
>> >> machine. It gave wrong OS version when I used it in the 98 box. Wonder
>> >> if
>> >> I can make a bootable CD that I can run on the 98 box?
>> >>
>> >> Before I go crazy with burning CDs and using flash drives to move the
>> >> files, is there a better way?
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>

> Wasn't sure that the PATA and EIDE were compatible.
> I found listings for EIDE to USB adaptors including power source (less case)
> for less than $20usd.

Right -- those work reasonably well -- the trick is to connect the data
cable to the drive, then connect the power cable, then connect the
cable to the USB port on the destination computer. Sequence matters.


--
Barry Schnur