WPA-PSK Network config w/MS VISTA

I'm trying to connect my son's new MS Vista laptop to our home
Motorola wireless network and after entering his MAC address into our
router software, noted that in his Vista network setup, there is no
provision for our existing WPA-PSK security. WPA-PSK doesn't appear as
an option.

Instead, there's "WPA Personal", "WPA2 Personal", "WPA Enterprise"
"Open", etc - but no WPA-PSK. The closest one, WPA Personal only
allows TKIP and AES selections - no PSK so how can I get the WPA-PSK
option?

Every other configuration I've tried doesn't work and since other
machines on our home network currently operate flawlessly on the
network, I really don't want to alter our existing network security
settings for a single machine. SSID, passphrase, 'obtain
automatically' or trying to actually fill in our IP, DNS, gateway, etc
isn't working. It *SEEMS* to be something specific to the PSK not
being an apparent option where network security compatibility is
concerned. THANKS VERY MUCH for any replies... HELP! :-)

PSK stand for "Pre shared key" which is simply a password that is put into
the router and the PC. This is something that is used in "Personal" or small
business enviroments. Enterprises will use shared digital certificates which
are far more secure. So you will use personal mode.

TKIP and AES are forms of encryption and more than likely you will use TKIP
if your router only uses WPA rather than WPA2. If you have the option to use
WPA2 on the router, it would be wise to use it, but make sure that the
drivers on all WiFi cards are able to also support this mode.

In short you will use WPA personal - TKIP

Chris

<jcage@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1183828237.814359.53700@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm trying to connect my son's new MS Vista laptop to our home
> Motorola wireless network and after entering his MAC address into our
> router software, noted that in his Vista network setup, there is no
> provision for our existing WPA-PSK security. WPA-PSK doesn't appear as
> an option.
>
> Instead, there's "WPA Personal", "WPA2 Personal", "WPA Enterprise"
> "Open", etc - but no WPA-PSK. The closest one, WPA Personal only
> allows TKIP and AES selections - no PSK so how can I get the WPA-PSK
> option?
>
> Every other configuration I've tried doesn't work and since other
> machines on our home network currently operate flawlessly on the
> network, I really don't want to alter our existing network security
> settings for a single machine. SSID, passphrase, 'obtain
> automatically' or trying to actually fill in our IP, DNS, gateway, etc
> isn't working. It *SEEMS* to be something specific to the PSK not
> being an apparent option where network security compatibility is
> concerned. THANKS VERY MUCH for any replies... HELP! :-)
>

On Jul 7, 11:13 am, "Swin" <s...@fab-sas.co.uk> wrote:
> PSK stand for "Pre shared key" which is simply a password that is put into
> the router and the PC. This is something that is used in "Personal" or small
> business enviroments. Enterprises will use shared digital certificates which
> are far more secure. So you will use personal mode.
>
> TKIP and AES are forms of encryption and more than likely you will use TKIP
> if your router only uses WPA rather than WPA2. If you have the option to use
> WPA2 on the router, it would be wise to use it, but make sure that the
> drivers on all WiFi cards are able to also support this mode.
>
> In short you will use WPA personal - TKIP
>
> Chris
>
> <j...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1183828237.814359.53700@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > I'm trying to connect my son's new MS Vista laptop to our home
> > Motorola wireless network and after entering his MAC address into our
> > router software, noted that in his Vista network setup, there is no
> > provision for our existing WPA-PSK security. WPA-PSK doesn't appear as
> > an option.
>
> > Instead, there's "WPA Personal", "WPA2 Personal", "WPA Enterprise"
> > "Open", etc - but no WPA-PSK. The closest one, WPA Personal only
> > allows TKIP and AES selections - no PSK so how can I get the WPA-PSK
> > option?
>
> > Every other configuration I've tried doesn't work and since other
> > machines on our home network currently operate flawlessly on the
> > network, I really don't want to alter our existing network security
> > settings for a single machine. SSID, passphrase, 'obtain
> > automatically' or trying to actually fill in our IP, DNS, gateway, etc
> > isn't working. It *SEEMS* to be something specific to the PSK not
> > being an apparent option where network security compatibility is
> > concerned. THANKS VERY MUCH for any replies... HELP! :-)

So based on the above short story, anything come to mind? Curious
because I've set the XP machines up with no problem and then this
comes along. Acknowledging the case sensitivities, etc; can see the
network but not connect and no reason is provided (incidentally,
'repair' for the connection didn't work either). I logged onto the
neighbor's open network so believe the laptop is working fine, just
something with the WPA-PSK connection.

On Jul 7, 10:10 am, j...@lycos.com wrote:
> I'm trying to connect my son's new MS Vista laptop to our home
> Motorola wireless network and after entering his MAC address into our
> router software, noted that in his Vista network setup, there is no
> provision for our existing WPA-PSK security. WPA-PSK doesn't appear as
> an option.
>
> Instead, there's "WPA Personal", "WPA2 Personal", "WPA Enterprise"
> "Open", etc - but no WPA-PSK. The closest one, WPA Personal only
> allows TKIP and AES selections - no PSK so how can I get the WPA-PSK
> option?
>
> Every other configuration I've tried doesn't work and since other
> machines on our home network currently operate flawlessly on the
> network, I really don't want to alter our existing network security
> settings for a single machine. SSID, passphrase, 'obtain
> automatically' or trying to actually fill in our IP, DNS, gateway, etc
> isn't working. It *SEEMS* to be something specific to the PSK not
> being an apparent option where network security compatibility is
> concerned. THANKS VERY MUCH for any replies... HELP! :-)

FURTHER...
One thing I just noted... My XP laptop has the following installed in
the network properties:
"Client for Microsoft Networks",
"File & Print Sharing",
"QoS Packet Scheduler",
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP" (TCP everything set to obtain
automatically)

On the Vista machine, it has the first three mentioned above installed
but then gets to the following differences:
"Internet Protocol Version 6 TCP/IPv6",
"Internet Protocol Version 4 TCP/IPv4",
"Link Layer Topology Discovery Mapper I/O Driver", "Link Layer
Topology Discovery Responder".

Differences in the TCP/IP stack are interesting between Vista & XP as
are the Link Layer lines above (whatever they are). I have to wonder
if there's an incompatibility somehow between my router and these new
versions of TCP. Thoughts?

do you get an IP on the Vista machine?

Please see http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/928233/en-us

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:57:40 -0700, jcage@lycos.com wrote:

>On Jul 7, 10:10 am, j...@lycos.com wrote:
>> I'm trying to connect my son's new MS Vista laptop to our home
>> Motorola wireless network and after entering his MAC address into our
>> router software, noted that in his Vista network setup, there is no
>> provision for our existing WPA-PSK security. WPA-PSK doesn't appear as
>> an option.
>>
>> Instead, there's "WPA Personal", "WPA2 Personal", "WPA Enterprise"
>> "Open", etc - but no WPA-PSK. The closest one, WPA Personal only
>> allows TKIP and AES selections - no PSK so how can I get the WPA-PSK
>> option?
>>
>> Every other configuration I've tried doesn't work and since other
>> machines on our home network currently operate flawlessly on the
>> network, I really don't want to alter our existing network security
>> settings for a single machine. SSID, passphrase, 'obtain
>> automatically' or trying to actually fill in our IP, DNS, gateway, etc
>> isn't working. It *SEEMS* to be something specific to the PSK not
>> being an apparent option where network security compatibility is
>> concerned. THANKS VERY MUCH for any replies... HELP! :-)
>
>FURTHER...
>One thing I just noted... My XP laptop has the following installed in
>the network properties:
>"Client for Microsoft Networks",
>"File & Print Sharing",
>"QoS Packet Scheduler",
>"Internet Protocol TCP/IP" (TCP everything set to obtain
>automatically)
>
>On the Vista machine, it has the first three mentioned above installed
>but then gets to the following differences:
>"Internet Protocol Version 6 TCP/IPv6",
>"Internet Protocol Version 4 TCP/IPv4",
>"Link Layer Topology Discovery Mapper I/O Driver", "Link Layer
>Topology Discovery Responder".
>
>Differences in the TCP/IP stack are interesting between Vista & XP as
>are the Link Layer lines above (whatever they are). I have to wonder
>if there's an incompatibility somehow between my router and these new
>versions of TCP. Thoughts?
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

On Jul 7, 2:29 pm, Barb Bowman <b...@nospam.com> wrote:
> do you get an IP on the Vista machine?
>
> Please seehttp://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/928233/en-us
>
>
>
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:57:40 -0700, j...@lycos.com wrote:
> >On Jul 7, 10:10 am, j...@lycos.com wrote:
> >> I'm trying to connect my son's new MS Vista laptop to our home
> >> Motorola wireless network and after entering his MAC address into our
> >> router software, noted that in his Vista network setup, there is no
> >> provision for our existing WPA-PSK security. WPA-PSK doesn't appear as
> >> an option.
>
> >> Instead, there's "WPA Personal", "WPA2 Personal", "WPA Enterprise"
> >> "Open", etc - but no WPA-PSK. The closest one, WPA Personal only
> >> allows TKIP and AES selections - no PSK so how can I get the WPA-PSK
> >> option?
>
> >> Every other configuration I've tried doesn't work and since other
> >> machines on our home network currently operate flawlessly on the
> >> network, I really don't want to alter our existing network security
> >> settings for a single machine. SSID, passphrase, 'obtain
> >> automatically' or trying to actually fill in our IP, DNS, gateway, etc
> >> isn't working. It *SEEMS* to be something specific to the PSK not
> >> being an apparent option where network security compatibility is
> >> concerned. THANKS VERY MUCH for any replies... HELP! :-)
>
> >FURTHER...
> >One thing I just noted... My XP laptop has the following installed in
> >the network properties:
> >"Client for Microsoft Networks",
> >"File & Print Sharing",
> >"QoS Packet Scheduler",
> >"Internet Protocol TCP/IP" (TCP everything set to obtain
> >automatically)
>
> >On the Vista machine, it has the first three mentioned above installed
> >but then gets to the following differences:
> >"Internet Protocol Version 6 TCP/IPv6",
> >"Internet Protocol Version 4 TCP/IPv4",
> >"Link Layer Topology Discovery Mapper I/O Driver", "Link Layer
> >Topology Discovery Responder".
>
> >Differences in the TCP/IP stack are interesting between Vista & XP as
> >are the Link Layer lines above (whatever they are). I have to wonder
> >if there's an incompatibility somehow between my router and these new
> >versions of TCP. Thoughts?
>
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

Actually I have not been able to get an IP on the Vista machine (using
ipconfig /all)

I would double check the MAC address or turn off MAC filtering.
Just curious, why are you using both MAC filtering and WPA-PSK?
--------------
In comic strips, the person on the left always speaks first. --George
Carlin



<jcage@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1183828237.814359.53700@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm trying to connect my son's new MS Vista laptop to our home
> Motorola wireless network and after entering his MAC address into our
> router software, noted that in his Vista network setup, there is no
> provision for our existing WPA-PSK security. WPA-PSK doesn't appear as
> an option.
>
> Instead, there's "WPA Personal", "WPA2 Personal", "WPA Enterprise"
> "Open", etc - but no WPA-PSK. The closest one, WPA Personal only
> allows TKIP and AES selections - no PSK so how can I get the WPA-PSK
> option?
>
> Every other configuration I've tried doesn't work and since other
> machines on our home network currently operate flawlessly on the
> network, I really don't want to alter our existing network security
> settings for a single machine. SSID, passphrase, 'obtain
> automatically' or trying to actually fill in our IP, DNS, gateway, etc
> isn't working. It *SEEMS* to be something specific to the PSK not
> being an apparent option where network security compatibility is
> concerned. THANKS VERY MUCH for any replies... HELP! :-)
>

On Jul 7, 6:30 pm, "David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I would double check the MAC address or turn off MAC filtering.
> Just curious, why are you using both MAC filtering and WPA-PSK?

No other reason for using both than, 'redundant protection'. Just
trying to keep the deterrent as high as possible. Everything else has
worked flawlessly on our network to date (including an Xbox)... I'll
try turning off MAC and get back...

did you follow the instructions in
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/928233/en-us ?



On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:44:05 -0700, jcage@lycos.com wrote:

>Actually I have not been able to get an IP on the Vista machine (using
>ipconfig /all)
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

On Jul 8, 2:35 am, Barb Bowman <b...@nospam.com> wrote:
> did you follow the instructions inhttp://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/928233/en-us ?
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP

WOW Barb, er, I mean Mz Bowman <greatest respect and adoration mode
ON> :-) -

You truly are a MS "MVP" - the link above did the trick. I tweaked
both network adapter keys as per 'resolution', rebooted, manually re-
did my network info and voila - it works great... Thank you SOOOooo
much for your replies.

John

ps - others, thank you as well for taking the time to reply.