Missing Type 1 Fonts in Word

I have about 1,000 fonts installed in my Vista install (I had the same number
in XP previously). About 1/3rd are TT, 1/3 OT and 1/3 Adobe Type 1.

I have all 1000 fonts installed in my font file. They all show up in
Photoshop, Illustrator, Quark and similar programs. But they don't all show
up in MS Word. I was using Word XP (2003) and had this problem and then today
I upgraded to Word 2007 and the same thing is happening in the newer version.

It appears to be the Type 1 fonts that aren't showing up -- but not every
Type 1 font is missing.

As an example: I have the font Univers installed. It's an Adobe Type 1 font.
I've triple checked and know that it is installed (its in the font folder and
works in other programs). However it is not on the font list in Word. I can
even type "Univers" in manually into the font box in Word and it will apply
the font. But its not on my font list.

What's going on with this and how can I fix this?

Creativepart wrote:
> I have about 1,000 fonts installed in my Vista install (I had the same number
> in XP previously). About 1/3rd are TT, 1/3 OT and 1/3 Adobe Type 1.
>
> I have all 1000 fonts installed in my font file. They all show up in
> Photoshop, Illustrator, Quark and similar programs. But they don't all show
> up in MS Word. I was using Word XP (2003) and had this problem and then today
> I upgraded to Word 2007 and the same thing is happening in the newer version.
>
> It appears to be the Type 1 fonts that aren't showing up -- but not every
> Type 1 font is missing.
>
> As an example: I have the font Univers installed. It's an Adobe Type 1 font.
> I've triple checked and know that it is installed (its in the font folder and
> works in other programs). However it is not on the font list in Word. I can
> even type "Univers" in manually into the font box in Word and it will apply
> the font. But its not on my font list.
>
> What's going on with this and how can I fix this?

You might get someone here who knows the answer (not me, sorry) but you
have a better chance of getting an answer if you post in one of the Word
newsgroups. Here's a list of all the MS newsgroups:

http://aumha.org/nntp.htm


Malke
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Malke wrote:

> Creativepart wrote:
>
>> I have about 1,000 fonts installed in my Vista install (I had the same
>> number in XP previously). About 1/3rd are TT, 1/3 OT and 1/3 Adobe
>> Type 1.
>>
>> I have all 1000 fonts installed in my font file. They all show up in
>> Photoshop, Illustrator, Quark and similar programs. But they don't all
>> show up in MS Word. I was using Word XP (2003) and had this problem
>> and then today I upgraded to Word 2007 and the same thing is happening
>> in the newer version.
>>
>> It appears to be the Type 1 fonts that aren't showing up -- but not
>> every Type 1 font is missing.
>>
>> As an example: I have the font Univers installed. It's an Adobe Type 1
>> font. I've triple checked and know that it is installed (its in the
>> font folder and works in other programs). However it is not on the
>> font list in Word. I can even type "Univers" in manually into the font
>> box in Word and it will apply the font. But its not on my font list.
>>
>> What's going on with this and how can I fix this?
>
>
> You might get someone here who knows the answer (not me, sorry) but you
> have a better chance of getting an answer if you post in one of the Word
> newsgroups. Here's a list of all the MS newsgroups:
>
> http://aumha.org/nntp.htm
>
>
> Malke

I believe type 1 "master' fonts are the problem. You might try
installing adobes font manager. Don't know if that will solve your problem.
Be informed though that adobe is dropping support for type 1's.
Frank

Several Adobe applications handle their own font management and rendering,
instead of using the built-in font facilities of the Operating System. So,
it is not too surprising you see fonts in Photoshop and Illustrator, which
do not appear in Word. These apps look after fonts themselves; whereas Word
largely relies on the underlying Windows OS to handle fonts.

As to why some Type 1 fonts are listed in Word and some aren't ... that
part, I dunno. I would recommend asking in a Word-oriented forum, such as
microsoft.public.word.printingfonts. For what it's worth, I have several
Type 1 fonts installed on my main desktop PC and they all appear and work
normally under Vista (ie, Vista has no objection to Type 1 fonts in general
terms).

You might want to run WordPad (Start, Accessories, WordPad) and see if the
fonts are listed, there. WordPad uses a simpler mechanism for listing
available fonts. This would help determine whether the problem was more in
the general OS-level font-handling; or something specific to Word (which I
think still does some of its own funky stuff with the font list, based on
current default printer driver etc).

Doubtless you're already sick and tired of the "Type 1 fonts are dead"
conversation, but ... you know Type 1 fonts are (almost) dead, right? They
cannot be displayed in any application built on WPF from Microsoft's .NET
3.0 Framework (which is not many apps, yet; certainly not Office, which will
remain pure Win32 for the foreseeable future).

Hope this helps a bit,

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Andrew McLaren
amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au