some MVP's need to reset...

I can remember "back in my day" (pre Win95) when as an MVP, you were bound
by a certain code of conduct.

I was one of the lucky few on the basketball court back in 1995 in Redmond,
with Brad Silverman, when a new online support group was formed.
It was called ClubWin, and it was formed, among other things, in an effort
to try and "fix" what had gone awry with the recently formed MVP group.

We were told that zealots need not apply, and that flaming in any way would
not be tolerated.

Seems these lessons have not carried over.
This is in no way intended for ALL MVP's, but obviously some would benefit
from reading the basic rules of engagement, since you've never seen them.

from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs:
Q8: What does Microsoft expect of its MVPs?

A8: Because the MVP Award is an award-based program with criteria based on
past contributions, Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the
expectations of courtesy, professionalism, code of conduct and adherence to
the community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members. These
rules can be found on the Microsoft Communities code of conduct page.

Hello John,

I don't ask questions in the Vista group all that often. But I have read
many of the replies from the MVPs to those who do pose questions in here.

From the tone of their posts, it would seem that SOME MVPs are really burned
out, and should probably consider 'retiring.'

Alan

"john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message
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>I can remember "back in my day" (pre Win95) when as an MVP, you were bound
>by a certain code of conduct.
>
> I was one of the lucky few on the basketball court back in 1995 in
> Redmond, with Brad Silverman, when a new online support group was formed.
> It was called ClubWin, and it was formed, among other things, in an effort
> to try and "fix" what had gone awry with the recently formed MVP group.
>
> We were told that zealots need not apply, and that flaming in any way
> would not be tolerated.
>
> Seems these lessons have not carried over.
> This is in no way intended for ALL MVP's, but obviously some would benefit
> from reading the basic rules of engagement, since you've never seen them.
>
> from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs:
> Q8: What does Microsoft expect of its MVPs?
>
> A8: Because the MVP Award is an award-based program with criteria based on
> past contributions, Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the
> expectations of courtesy, professionalism, code of conduct and adherence
> to the community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members.
> These rules can be found on the Microsoft Communities code of conduct
> page.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Your initial reply to me in another post was anything but courteous.. you
were just plain rude and obnoxious.. in future, go tell it to the judge..
the only reason that I don't killfile you is because somebody else using the
name 'John' may have a legitimate problem, and I don't see why that person
should lose out because of your actions..


"john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message
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>I can remember "back in my day" (pre Win95) when as an MVP, you were bound
>by a certain code of conduct.
>
> I was one of the lucky few on the basketball court back in 1995 in
> Redmond, with Brad Silverman, when a new online support group was formed.
> It was called ClubWin, and it was formed, among other things, in an effort
> to try and "fix" what had gone awry with the recently formed MVP group.
>
> We were told that zealots need not apply, and that flaming in any way
> would not be tolerated.
>
> Seems these lessons have not carried over.
> This is in no way intended for ALL MVP's, but obviously some would benefit
> from reading the basic rules of engagement, since you've never seen them.
>
> from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs:
> Q8: What does Microsoft expect of its MVPs?
>
> A8: Because the MVP Award is an award-based program with criteria based on
> past contributions, Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the
> expectations of courtesy, professionalism, code of conduct and adherence
> to the community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members.
> These rules can be found on the Microsoft Communities code of conduct
> page.
>
>
>
>
>
>

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

different poster - just saw that myself..... was not me.

"Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> john wrote:
>> I can remember "back in my day" (pre Win95) when as an MVP, you were
>> bound
>> by a certain code of conduct.
>>
>> I was one of the lucky few on the basketball court back in 1995 in
>> Redmond, with Brad Silverman, when a new online support group was formed.
>> It was called ClubWin, and it was formed, among other things, in an
>> effort
>> to try and "fix" what had gone awry with the recently formed MVP group.
>>
>> We were told that zealots need not apply, and that flaming in any way
>> would not be tolerated.
>>
>> Seems these lessons have not carried over.
>> This is in no way intended for ALL MVP's, but obviously some would
>> benefit
>> from reading the basic rules of engagement, since you've never seen them.
>>
>> from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs:
>> Q8: What does Microsoft expect of its MVPs?
>>
>> A8: Because the MVP Award is an award-based program with criteria based
>> on
>> past contributions, Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the
>> expectations of courtesy, professionalism, code of conduct and adherence
>> to the community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members.
>> These rules can be found on the Microsoft Communities code of conduct
>> page.
>
> Pot calling the kettle black here? Who is it that said the following:
>
> "Thats it! MVPs are IDIOTS!
>
> Didnt you ever suspect that kissing so much MSFT a** would rub off some of
> the
> sh** on your face?
>
> Sorry for being insulting.. but man.. you are pathetic!"
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...TNGP06.phx.gbl
> --
> Tom Porterfield

john wrote:
> different poster - just saw that myself..... was not me.

DOH! Sorry about that. Possibly that is what caused the confusion here for
others as well.
--
Tom Porterfield

no problem - it happens

but I do want to thank Mike for proving my point.



"Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> john wrote:
>> different poster - just saw that myself..... was not me.
>
> DOH! Sorry about that. Possibly that is what caused the confusion here
> for others as well.
> --
> Tom Porterfield

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:19:27 -0500, "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows
Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote:

>Your initial reply to me in another post was anything but courteous.. you
>were just plain rude and obnoxious.. in future, go tell it to the judge..
>the only reason that I don't killfile you is because somebody else using the
>name 'John' may have a legitimate problem, and I don't see why that person
>should lose out because of your actions..

You have a mighty high opinion of yourself don't ya Mike. How about
actually providing some help instead of just massaging that big fat
ego of yours.

Apologies to you, Sir..


"john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message
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> different poster - just saw that myself..... was not me.
>
> "Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23TxJB7oVHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> john wrote:
>>> I can remember "back in my day" (pre Win95) when as an MVP, you were
>>> bound
>>> by a certain code of conduct.
>>>
>>> I was one of the lucky few on the basketball court back in 1995 in
>>> Redmond, with Brad Silverman, when a new online support group was
>>> formed.
>>> It was called ClubWin, and it was formed, among other things, in an
>>> effort
>>> to try and "fix" what had gone awry with the recently formed MVP group.
>>>
>>> We were told that zealots need not apply, and that flaming in any way
>>> would not be tolerated.
>>>
>>> Seems these lessons have not carried over.
>>> This is in no way intended for ALL MVP's, but obviously some would
>>> benefit
>>> from reading the basic rules of engagement, since you've never seen
>>> them.
>>>
>>> from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs:
>>> Q8: What does Microsoft expect of its MVPs?
>>>
>>> A8: Because the MVP Award is an award-based program with criteria based
>>> on
>>> past contributions, Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the
>>> expectations of courtesy, professionalism, code of conduct and adherence
>>> to the community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members.
>>> These rules can be found on the Microsoft Communities code of conduct
>>> page.
>>
>> Pot calling the kettle black here? Who is it that said the following:
>>
>> "Thats it! MVPs are IDIOTS!
>>
>> Didnt you ever suspect that kissing so much MSFT a** would rub off some
>> of
>> the
>> sh** on your face?
>>
>> Sorry for being insulting.. but man.. you are pathetic!"
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...TNGP06.phx.gbl
>> --
>> Tom Porterfield
>
>

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:19:27 -0500, "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows
Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> spake thusly:

>
>
>"john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:eUsurkoVHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I can remember "back in my day" (pre Win95) when as an MVP, you were bound
>>by a certain code of conduct.
>>
>> I was one of the lucky few on the basketball court back in 1995 in
>> Redmond, with Brad Silverman, when a new online support group was formed.
>> It was called ClubWin, and it was formed, among other things, in an effort
>> to try and "fix" what had gone awry with the recently formed MVP group.
>>
>> We were told that zealots need not apply, and that flaming in any way
>> would not be tolerated.
>>
>> Seems these lessons have not carried over.
>> This is in no way intended for ALL MVP's, but obviously some would benefit
>> from reading the basic rules of engagement, since you've never seen them.
>>
>> from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs:
>> Q8: What does Microsoft expect of its MVPs?
>>
>> A8: Because the MVP Award is an award-based program with criteria based on
>> past contributions, Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the
>> expectations of courtesy, professionalism, code of conduct and adherence
>> to the community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members.
>> These rules can be found on the Microsoft Communities code of conduct
>> page.
>>

>Your initial reply to me in another post was anything but courteous.. you
>were just plain rude and obnoxious.. in future, go tell it to the judge..
>the only reason that I don't killfile you is because somebody else using the
>name 'John' may have a legitimate problem, and I don't see why that person
>should lose out because of your actions..

So filter by email address then rather than by name.
--
Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.

Adam

Where have stated that I have a high onion of myself..


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:19:27 -0500, "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows
> Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Your initial reply to me in another post was anything but courteous.. you
>>were just plain rude and obnoxious.. in future, go tell it to the judge..
>>the only reason that I don't killfile you is because somebody else using
>>the
>>name 'John' may have a legitimate problem, and I don't see why that person
>>should lose out because of your actions..
>
> You have a mighty high opinion of yourself don't ya Mike. How about
> actually providing some help instead of just massaging that big fat
> ego of yours.
>
>
>

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/