Dale wrote:
> Even I was able to install Ubuntu. The tech journalist in question
> needs to find a new line of work.
>
> Dale
Agreed. Shouldn't be even writing technical articles until he has
installed over 20 different OSes on 20 different systems!
>
> "Patrick Dickey" <pd1ckey43@removethisspamfilter.msn.com> wrote in
> message news:39919D52-64C1-45F5-9DF2-5689E1453521@microsoft.com...
>>
>>
>> <royschestowitz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1171993587.208455.132750@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> Here we go again 
>> So much for Linux *killing* Microsoft Vista.
>>
>> What a joke.
>> So how long has Linux been around? Maybe 12 years or more?
Linus Torvalds wrote and released Linux kernel in 1992, and enthusiasts
bundled FSF goodies around it immediately, to create different distros.
>> So why is Linux still as user unfriendly and hostile as it was 12
>> years ago?
It is a piece of cake to slip in the LiveCDrom, let it boot and identify
all the hardware, then click the "EASY" on screen install button!
>>
>> When tech journalists can't even get Linux, in this case Ubuntu, to
>> work there is something seriously wrong with Linux.
No, there is something wrong with the attitude and capabilities of the
Journalist, because over 50 other journalists have successfully done the
installs, and written them up in major mags, and emags. !
>>
>> Of course we all know the Linux cultists will blame the user, call him
>> an idiot etc.
Well, he definitely IS an IDIOT!
>>
>> With Linux, it always seems to be the users fault.
The users are expecting a 'user friendly' environment, but, they don't
even read the website 'install FAQ, FIRST!" You don't read the owners
manual, for a new airplane? I know you ignored the provided booklet for
your new SUV, and THAT could KILL you!
>>
>> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37742
>>
>> "Quite an impressive start for a piece of free software, I think
>> you'll agree. But (and you just knew there was a 'but' coming, didn't
>> you?) then the wheels started to come off. Despite it being the latest
>> ISO image I could find, the first thing the system did when it saw the
>> Web was to download 104 updates - roughly 60 per cent more than a new
>> install of Windows XP SP2 asks for."
Windows XP SP2 has 120 patches to download, upon install, again
reflecting the ignorance of 'somebody'. The ISO is an image formed with
the latest available data, on the date of composition. Updates to many
of the included thousands of applications and programs are what is being
downloaded, unlike Microsoft products!
Microsoft XP SP2 is over 3 years old, and you are NOT grabbing hundreds
of the latest games, browsers, applications, office suites, or updates
to same, that are all FREE!
No, in XP you are getting the late night re-writes to 'FIX' huge
vulnerabilities, holes, bugs, and weaknesses, PLUS, some MORE DRM
crapola! XP actually calls home, and you must REGISTER it.
So, let's be FAIR and NOT call apples, oranges!
>>
>> "Well, I've only been playing with computers since 1972 and I couldn't
>> make it work. Linux can see the Windows boxes and vice versa, but any
>> attempt to access files is met with a login dialogue box that refuses
>> any username and password I enter.
On that point, I've been fixing computer systems since 1965!!! USAF 20
years, then corporate plus my own consultancy. Been building computers
for desktop use since teh TV typewriter of Don Lancaster, and GNU/Linux,
*BSD, and other systems since at least as early as 1997.
That is the STRENGTH of al the 'Nix systems, that you MUST be ROOT to
access SYSTEM files! The dialogue box needs your root access persona,
plus, that password! Same in Macs!
>>Now my learned friends tell me I
>> should be using something called Wine. I've been a heavy user of wine
>> for many years and it certainly helped relax me but did absolutely
>> nothing for my connectivity dilemma."
WINE is an acronym for Wine Is Not an Emulator. But, you might think of
it incorrectly as such. It conforms to the WIN32 API, so that any
program or game that obeys Microsoft's Win32 API will run.
>>
>> "So I've done what any normal person would do in the circumstances -
>> give up.
"Normal" people consult a Linux User Group, or even the Free FORUMS, on
the home website, or at any of 800 to 1,000 Linux Distro help sites!
>>If the awfully-clever people who write bits of open source
>> code can't make it work automatically, I stand absolutely no chance of
>> fixing it. It looks very much to me as if people clever enough to
>> write an entire operating system can't make a simple bit of networking
>> work, it has to be a deliberate marketing decision rather than a lack
>> of ability."
There is NO 'marketing' really, for the majority of garage hobby-ists!
Everything works very easily, if you:
A. Read The Fine Manual "RTFM"
B. consult with the newbie help files
C. Attended any Installfest, or Linux Users meeting.
D. ask any FORUM
E. Make sure you don't use a cheap piece of crap "WinModem" or
"WinPrinter", or WinNIC" that are braindead!
F. click on the MENU and find the solution, or the Control or
Configuration Panel Menu!
>> "The Ubuntu box now awaits rebirth as another Windows XP machine. I
>> have neither the time nor the inclination to persevere with its
>> perversity. Maybe I'll try Linux again in another ten years. Maybe by
>> then it will have grown up. µ
>> "
>>
Perhaps by then you will have grown up in ability as a journalist, to
report from a neutral viewpoint. Many of us would have been most
pleased to have aided in your journalistic inquiries.
>>
>> And another Linux Distribution ends up as a coaster.
>> This seems to be all to common an experience and it might account for
>> the fact that Linux still hovers around less than 1 percent of the
>> desktop market share.
>>
>> Interesting. I'm not a tech journalist in any way, shape or form.
>> But, I'm able to connect my "Simply MEPIS" Linux box to all of my
>> Windows boxes (including Vista) and share files. Samba anyone? And,
>> I've even set up a web server using Apache on the Linux box. I'm not
>> saying it's the user's fault. Except that he chose a bad version to
>> start out with. Ubuntu is a really fine distro, don't get me wrong.
>> But, it does things differently than other distros. And, with
>> everything, there's a learning curve.
But, some idiots can't learn what my second grade students can download,
run, install, on a daily basis. The protests and arguments sound like a
frustrated spoiled First grade student!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Dickey
>>
>> Smile... Someone out there cares deeply for you...
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