Restore points

I thought maybe M$ got this option right this time around.

All my restore points has stopped working. Has anyone else had this happen
to them?

I know defragging your HDD will mess up the restore points but I haven't
defragged my drive at this time. No need too.

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Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Premium

"Bob Eyster" <reyster1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I thought maybe M$ got this option right this time around.
>
> All my restore points has stopped working. Has anyone else had this happen
> to them?
>
> I know defragging your HDD will mess up the restore points but I haven't
> defragged my drive at this time. No need too.
>
> --
>
> Bob Eyster
> MS Windows Vista Premium
>
>
>

I think you lose your Vista restore points if you're dual-booting and boot
into, say, an xp installation.

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Jon

You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only being
kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.

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Windows - Shell/User

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>
> "Bob Eyster" <reyster1@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:eFLdKZDVHHA.2256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I thought maybe M$ got this option right this time around.
>>
>> All my restore points has stopped working. Has anyone else had this
>> happen to them?
>>
>> I know defragging your HDD will mess up the restore points but I haven't
>> defragged my drive at this time. No need too.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bob Eyster
>> MS Windows Vista Premium
>>
>>
>>
>
> I think you lose your Vista restore points if you're dual-booting and boot
> into, say, an xp installation.
>
> --
> Jon

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
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> You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
> also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only being
> kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.
>
> --
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> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
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> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
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> this mail/post..
>


Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore

You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)

vssadmin list shadowstorage

and, if necessary resize it with the command

vssadmin resize shadowstorage

[syntax ... vssadmin resize shadowstorage /? ]


Aternatively, (but probably less likely) it might be the value of
'RPLifeInterval' (number of seconds restore points live for)
at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
(mine is 4294967295 (decimal) )

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Jon

Jon, I have a couple quick clarifications on your post.

Unfortunately vssadmin resize shadowstorage doesn't quite work the way it
should. You can use this command to change the size, but the size is reset
to the default the next time a restore point is created. We have a bug to
change this so that a custom setting actually sticks.

I hadn't seen reference to the registry entry you mention below. I asked
someone on the System Restore team about this and he says this key is for XP
and doesn't work in Vista. It's there in Vista for compatibility with
scripts using the WMI provider (as you've seen it's set to 0 or 0xffffffff )
but the key is never read when deciding when to delete restore points.

Thanks to you and John for helping out with these questions!

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"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ePwNI4DVHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
>> also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only
>> being kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
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>> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> this mail/post..
>>
>
>
> Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore
>
> You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)
>
> vssadmin list shadowstorage
>
> and, if necessary resize it with the command
>
> vssadmin resize shadowstorage
>
> [syntax ... vssadmin resize shadowstorage /? ]
>
>
> Aternatively, (but probably less likely) it might be the value of
> 'RPLifeInterval' (number of seconds restore points live for)
> at
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
> (mine is 4294967295 (decimal) )
>
> --
> Jon

"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
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> Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore
>
> You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)
>
> vssadmin list shadowstorage

Out of curiosity, I ran this command...It said I was using 26GB + for shadow
copy? How does one reclaim this storage?

Greenwing

Try Disk Cleanup. This will remove all but the most recent restore point.

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> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
> news:On5msCEVHHA.4380@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore
>>
>> You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)
>>
>> vssadmin list shadowstorage
>
> Out of curiosity, I ran this command...It said I was using 26GB + for
> shadow copy? How does one reclaim this storage?
>
> Greenwing

Very interesting. Thanks alot Jill. Good to hear the real inside story from
you folks.

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"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Jon, I have a couple quick clarifications on your post.
>
> Unfortunately vssadmin resize shadowstorage doesn't quite work the way it
> should. You can use this command to change the size, but the size is reset
> to the default the next time a restore point is created. We have a bug to
> change this so that a custom setting actually sticks.
>
> I hadn't seen reference to the registry entry you mention below. I asked
> someone on the System Restore team about this and he says this key is for
> XP and doesn't work in Vista. It's there in Vista for compatibility with
> scripts using the WMI provider (as you've seen it's set to 0 or
> 0xffffffff ) but the key is never read when deciding when to delete
> restore points.
>
> Thanks to you and John for helping out with these questions!
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our
> team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>
>
> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
> news:On5msCEVHHA.4380@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>
>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
>> news:ePwNI4DVHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
>>> also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only
>>> being kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Barnett MVP
>>> Associate Expert
>>> Windows - Shell/User
>>>
>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>>
>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
>>> any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>>> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not
>>> be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages
>>> arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions
>>> expressed in this mail/post..
>>>
>>
>>
>> Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore
>>
>> You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)
>>
>> vssadmin list shadowstorage
>>
>> and, if necessary resize it with the command
>>
>> vssadmin resize shadowstorage
>>
>> [syntax ... vssadmin resize shadowstorage /? ]
>>
>>
>> Aternatively, (but probably less likely) it might be the value of
>> 'RPLifeInterval' (number of seconds restore points live for)
>> at
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
>> (mine is 4294967295 (decimal) )
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>
>

"GreenWing" <Greenwing@DoNotEmailMe.com> wrote in message
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> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
> news:On5msCEVHHA.4380@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore
>>
>> You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)
>>
>> vssadmin list shadowstorage
>
> Out of curiosity, I ran this command...It said I was using 26GB + for
> shadow copy? How does one reclaim this storage?
>
> Greenwing


I believe you can also adjust this registry key to vary the percentage disk
space used

DiskPercent

at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\cfg

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Jon

Hi Jill

Does this particular key currently have any validity? Changing it doesn't
seem to have much effect either.......


DiskPercent

at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\cfg

?

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Jon



"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23DDbm5EVHHA.4380@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Jon, I have a couple quick clarifications on your post.
>
> Unfortunately vssadmin resize shadowstorage doesn't quite work the way it
> should. You can use this command to change the size, but the size is reset
> to the default the next time a restore point is created. We have a bug to
> change this so that a custom setting actually sticks.
>
> I hadn't seen reference to the registry entry you mention below. I asked
> someone on the System Restore team about this and he says this key is for
> XP and doesn't work in Vista. It's there in Vista for compatibility with
> scripts using the WMI provider (as you've seen it's set to 0 or
> 0xffffffff ) but the key is never read when deciding when to delete
> restore points.
>
> Thanks to you and John for helping out with these questions!
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our
> team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>
>
> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
> news:On5msCEVHHA.4380@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>
>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
>> news:ePwNI4DVHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
>>> also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only
>>> being kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Barnett MVP
>>> Associate Expert
>>> Windows - Shell/User
>>>
>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>>
>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
>>> any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>>> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not
>>> be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages
>>> arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions
>>> expressed in this mail/post..
>>>
>>
>>
>> Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore
>>
>> You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)
>>
>> vssadmin list shadowstorage
>>
>> and, if necessary resize it with the command
>>
>> vssadmin resize shadowstorage
>>
>> [syntax ... vssadmin resize shadowstorage /? ]
>>
>>
>> Aternatively, (but probably less likely) it might be the value of
>> 'RPLifeInterval' (number of seconds restore points live for)
>> at
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
>> (mine is 4294967295 (decimal) )
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>
>