One for Vista owners.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:50:05 -0800, DavidTyson
<DavidTyson@discussions.microsoft.com> spake thusly:

[flame bait snippage]

Bored eh?
--
Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:05:47 +0100, Alias wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:07:11 -0600, Robert Firth wrote:
>>
>>> Because nobody EVER has ANY problems with linux, right? I could repeat the
>>> same:
You can test out many linux distros by downloading and burning a live cd.
This opportunity gives you a chance to see if that particular distro
works with your hardware. If you like it, usually you can install the
entire OS from a file on the temporary desktop. I personally prefer
PCLINUXOS since it uses a simple method to install the Nvidia video
drivers. I dual boot with XP, since I sometimes use XP to answer questions
about that OS that my customers might have. I did try one of the later
Vista Betas, but I did not like it. I felt that it was too intrusive,
bulky, clunky, and prone to unexpected failures. Apparently, MS did not
do much to improve it in the final version and the drivers for many
devices are scarcely out of Beta (if you are lucky). MS spent a lot of
money, but free software has them beat. All my devices, except for video
and printer, were found and activated. The printer and video were easily
installed. My OS found my Sata drives, my Nvidia chipset, everything. MS
doesnt dare put out a live cd. Who would want to install it?



>>> I use Vista - it just works.
>>>
>>> Well, it just works for me. It has been working fine (beta versions) since
>>> June, RTM since November. Doesn't mean that others never have problems.
>>>
>>> Remember, there is no such thing as 100% secure code or 100% bug free code.
>>> Yes, that includes Vista and Linux.
>>
>> I never indicated that Linux was perfect. But I've certainly had lots
>> fewer problems with a new Ubuntu install than most of the posters here
>> seem to be having with the latest MS.
>>
>
> Reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch takes less time than installing IE7.
>
> Alias


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"Mario" <Mario1Guru@nvnetcom.educ> wrote in message
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> "Sucka" <Sucka.2m24y8@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:Sucka.2m24y8@no-mx.forums.net...
>>
>> Of course you're going to see people complaining of vista's short
>> comings on Vista forums, these are mainly tech support forums. Would
>> you rather see thousands of threads saying "omg i opened my hotmail and
>> it worked fine today!!11!"? People typically post when they have a
>> problem, or a complaint, it's just the nature of a web forum. I can
>> assure you more people are not having issues than people that are, you
>> just don't hear from the people without issues.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sucka
>
> Could you assure us with some reliable statistics, rather than your
> opinion?
I don't know, people seem to be having some real problems at very basic
levels.
It is byond dispute that there are a lack of drivers for one example.

I am amazing to see how many people are complaining here.

If you were clever enough to buy Vista as soon as it came out, and were
dooped by marketing - you should just sit tight and shut up. Because there
are months of rough water ahead of you yet.

I thought it was common knowledge not to go near an operating system in
early stages. To at LEAST look into it.

All of you have dropped a perfectly fine working OS (WinXP) for an
over-marketed prettier version.

Well done for shooting yourself in the foot.

I'm not trying to say anyone is stupid, I mean you are force fed on TV, on
Radio, on the net that Vista is good, we want Vista.

All I am saying if you went out and bought it ASAP, then you shouldnt be
here whining about how horrible it is, and how nothing works.

You should be accepting the fact YOU as a consumer made a mistake. THE
BIGGEST MISTAKE.

You made an impulse buy, without thoroughly looking into the product...

Any quick search on reviews of Vista would have suggested you WAIT 6 months
or a year.

But Micro$oft and their shiny pretty advertisments caught you right in their
net.

So stop complaining, and enjoy what you put yourself into - stop blaming
Micro$oft, and go back to XP - We dont have to accept Vista.

IMO.

And you're in a Vista group because ?????????



"DavidTyson" <DavidTyson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4836261D-85AC-4DA8-BB67-BD7AF1CA8ABF@microsoft.com...
>I am amazing to see how many people are complaining here.
>
> If you were clever enough to buy Vista as soon as it came out, and were
> dooped by marketing - you should just sit tight and shut up. Because there
> are months of rough water ahead of you yet.
>
> I thought it was common knowledge not to go near an operating system in
> early stages. To at LEAST look into it.
>
> All of you have dropped a perfectly fine working OS (WinXP) for an
> over-marketed prettier version.
>
> Well done for shooting yourself in the foot.
>
> I'm not trying to say anyone is stupid, I mean you are force fed on TV, on
> Radio, on the net that Vista is good, we want Vista.
>
> All I am saying if you went out and bought it ASAP, then you shouldnt be
> here whining about how horrible it is, and how nothing works.
>
> You should be accepting the fact YOU as a consumer made a mistake. THE
> BIGGEST MISTAKE.
>
> You made an impulse buy, without thoroughly looking into the product...
>
> Any quick search on reviews of Vista would have suggested you WAIT 6
> months
> or a year.
>
> But Micro$oft and their shiny pretty advertisments caught you right in
> their
> net.
>
> So stop complaining, and enjoy what you put yourself into - stop blaming
> Micro$oft, and go back to XP - We dont have to accept Vista.
>
> IMO.

David:
I would appreciate it if you would let me know when the "months of
rough water ahead of you yet" start. I've been running Vista x64 full time
since the end of November, 2006 without problems. Taking the time to study
and research Vista before purchasing or installing it can eliminate a lot of
the problems or errors that are being encountered. Have a great day.

--
Dennis Pack
XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64
Office2007
"DavidTyson" <DavidTyson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4836261D-85AC-4DA8-BB67-BD7AF1CA8ABF@microsoft.com...
>I am amazing to see how many people are complaining here.
>
> If you were clever enough to buy Vista as soon as it came out, and were
> dooped by marketing - you should just sit tight and shut up. Because there
> are months of rough water ahead of you yet.
>
> I thought it was common knowledge not to go near an operating system in
> early stages. To at LEAST look into it.
>
> All of you have dropped a perfectly fine working OS (WinXP) for an
> over-marketed prettier version.
>
> Well done for shooting yourself in the foot.
>
> I'm not trying to say anyone is stupid, I mean you are force fed on TV, on
> Radio, on the net that Vista is good, we want Vista.
>
> All I am saying if you went out and bought it ASAP, then you shouldnt be
> here whining about how horrible it is, and how nothing works.
>
> You should be accepting the fact YOU as a consumer made a mistake. THE
> BIGGEST MISTAKE.
>
> You made an impulse buy, without thoroughly looking into the product...
>
> Any quick search on reviews of Vista would have suggested you WAIT 6
> months
> or a year.
>
> But Micro$oft and their shiny pretty advertisments caught you right in
> their
> net.
>
> So stop complaining, and enjoy what you put yourself into - stop blaming
> Micro$oft, and go back to XP - We dont have to accept Vista.
>
> IMO.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:58:13 -0600, John wrote:

> And you're in a Vista group because ?????????
>
>
>
>

Maybe for chuckles - that's why I'm here. I use Linux - it just works.

Because nobody EVER has ANY problems with linux, right? I could repeat the
same:

I use Vista - it just works.

Well, it just works for me. It has been working fine (beta versions) since
June, RTM since November. Doesn't mean that others never have problems.

Remember, there is no such thing as 100% secure code or 100% bug free code.
Yes, that includes Vista and Linux.

--
/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Robert Firth *
* Windows Vista x86 RTM *
* http://www.WinVistaInfo.org *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
newsan.2007.02.15.04.38.59.505675@zianet.com...
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:58:13 -0600, John wrote:
>
>> And you're in a Vista group because ?????????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Maybe for chuckles - that's why I'm here. I use Linux - it just works.
>

I believe people post to a newsgroup for problems and to get answers to
those problems.
XP when it first arrived was not the OS it is now and the same with Linux.
Vista will have it's share of problems but hopefully it will become like XP.
Yes many people will have to upgrade to a better system so that means money
into the economy.
As for people being first on their block to have Vista, it is a personal
choice.
Complaining is a way of life in America and that is what make the world go
round. Hell you
have made a statement of complaint about people who bought Vista and are now
not to happy.
Let it go........................................

"DavidTyson" <DavidTyson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4836261D-85AC-4DA8-BB67-BD7AF1CA8ABF@microsoft.com...
>I am amazing to see how many people are complaining here.
>
> If you were clever enough to buy Vista as soon as it came out, and were
> dooped by marketing - you should just sit tight and shut up. Because there
> are months of rough water ahead of you yet.
>
> I thought it was common knowledge not to go near an operating system in
> early stages. To at LEAST look into it.
>
> All of you have dropped a perfectly fine working OS (WinXP) for an
> over-marketed prettier version.
>
> Well done for shooting yourself in the foot.
>
> I'm not trying to say anyone is stupid, I mean you are force fed on TV, on
> Radio, on the net that Vista is good, we want Vista.
>
> All I am saying if you went out and bought it ASAP, then you shouldnt be
> here whining about how horrible it is, and how nothing works.
>
> You should be accepting the fact YOU as a consumer made a mistake. THE
> BIGGEST MISTAKE.
>
> You made an impulse buy, without thoroughly looking into the product...
>
> Any quick search on reviews of Vista would have suggested you WAIT 6
> months
> or a year.
>
> But Micro$oft and their shiny pretty advertisments caught you right in
> their
> net.
>
> So stop complaining, and enjoy what you put yourself into - stop blaming
> Micro$oft, and go back to XP - We dont have to accept Vista.
>
> IMO.

Ranting aside... the one point you make, without trying to make it, is that
folks need to do due diligence prior to moving to Vista. Folks with home
grown systems need to understand that there may be problems.

I've been running Vista, blah-blah-blah, for 10 months now. I like it. Works
for me. Many improvements over XP. Desktop now drawn by DirectX freeing up
system RAM to work for the CPU. Better memory management without doubt. Less
crashes, at least here.

Biggest issue, and everyone here knows it: drivers. Got a buggy driver?
Yeah, life sux.

You're correct; many folks should probably stay with XP for the time being.
But not because Vista sucks. Because they don't have Vista drivers for their
hw. Or their sw is not Vista ready. Don't blame Vista for third party
issues.

Lang


"DavidTyson" <DavidTyson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4836261D-85AC-4DA8-BB67-BD7AF1CA8ABF@microsoft.com...
>I am amazing to see how many people are complaining here.
>
> If you were clever enough to buy Vista as soon as it came out, and were
> dooped by marketing - you should just sit tight and shut up. Because there
> are months of rough water ahead of you yet.
>
> I thought it was common knowledge not to go near an operating system in
> early stages. To at LEAST look into it.
>
> All of you have dropped a perfectly fine working OS (WinXP) for an
> over-marketed prettier version.
>
> Well done for shooting yourself in the foot.
>
> I'm not trying to say anyone is stupid, I mean you are force fed on TV, on
> Radio, on the net that Vista is good, we want Vista.
>
> All I am saying if you went out and bought it ASAP, then you shouldnt be
> here whining about how horrible it is, and how nothing works.
>
> You should be accepting the fact YOU as a consumer made a mistake. THE
> BIGGEST MISTAKE.
>
> You made an impulse buy, without thoroughly looking into the product...
>
> Any quick search on reviews of Vista would have suggested you WAIT 6
> months
> or a year.
>
> But Micro$oft and their shiny pretty advertisments caught you right in
> their
> net.
>
> So stop complaining, and enjoy what you put yourself into - stop blaming
> Micro$oft, and go back to XP - We dont have to accept Vista.
>
> IMO.