Parental controls - CHILDREN RESET!

How do you keep your children from going inon their own accouint and
resetting the parental controls you have set up?

Make sure all accounts have strong passwords. Don't give them the password
to any accounts that have administrator privileges. Disable booting from
anything other than the hard drive and password protect the BIOS.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"K. Donovan" <K. Donovan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1DE70FD7-FCD2-4A73-B762-37FBAA4C93FB@microsoft.com...
> How do you keep your children from going inon their own accouint and
> resetting the parental controls you have set up?

K. Donovan wrote:
> How do you keep your children from going inon their own accouint and
> resetting the parental controls you have set up?

Standard security cut/paste:

Any computer running any operating system can be accessed by someone
with 1) physical access; 2) time; 3) skill; 4) tools. There are a few
things you can do to make it a bit harder though:

1. Set a password in the BIOS that must be entered before booting the
operating system. Also set the Supervisor password in the BIOS so BIOS
Setup can't be entered without it.

2. From the BIOS, change the boot order to hard drive first.

3. Set strong passwords on all accounts, including the built-in
Administrator account (this is account is disabled by default in Vista
but if you have enabled it, make sure the password you chose was a
strong one).

4. If you leave your own account logged in, use the Windows Key + L to
lock the computer (and/or set the screensaver/power saving) when you
step away from the computer and require a password to resume.

5. Make other users Standard users in Vista.

Please understand that these are technical responses to what is
basically a non-technical problem and there are ways around all of these
precautions. This is a family/interpersonal issue that can't be solved
by technical means.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Make sure their accounts are Standard User accounts, and that they do not
have access to an Administrators password.

--
Jane, not plain 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP Windows Shell/User

"K. Donovan" <K. Donovan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> How do you keep your children from going inon their own accouint and
> resetting the parental controls you have set up?

Take the computer away???????
"K. Donovan" <K. Donovan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1DE70FD7-FCD2-4A73-B762-37FBAA4C93FB@microsoft.com...
> How do you keep your children from going inon their own accouint and
> resetting the parental controls you have set up?

Kerry Brown wrote:
> Make sure all accounts have strong passwords. Don't give them the
> password to any accounts that have administrator privileges. Disable
> booting from anything other than the hard drive and password protect the
> BIOS.
>

Clear the CMOS data via motherboard jumper, password is cleared.

Enter BIOS and set boot order to other medium.

Boot from this other medium, crack/reset the Administrative password
(any of them).

Reboot, re-enabling the password in the BIOS to your own config.

Parents may not know how to get control back.

--------------------
OK, so we found a way to break in...

Install a physical lock on the computer to prevent the case from
opening. Break the physical lock with cutters.

Back to square one. Now what is your suggestion?

----------------------
Just a note (not intended for directions) to show that any current
mechanism to protect people are useless if the people have physical
access to the machine. Lock it in a cabinet, break the lock. Seal the
machine in a separate room, sledgehammer through the wall.

In today's world, there is nothing that can stop physical access.
Network access is the easiest, but physical isn't that hard to come by
anyway.

Thanks for your time.

"K. Donovan" <K. Donovan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1DE70FD7-FCD2-4A73-B762-37FBAA4C93FB@microsoft.com...
> How do you keep your children from going inon their own accouint and
> resetting the parental controls you have set up?



Confiscate any books on i386 assembly language found hidden in their teddy
bears.

--
Jon

You are right. With physical access a determined person can get access. In
this case we are talking about a family situation. If the precautions I
indicated aren't enough to keep the kids from hacking into the computer the
family has far deeper problems than securing computer access.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Tim Judd" <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:epX8XtfqHHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Kerry Brown wrote:
>> Make sure all accounts have strong passwords. Don't give them the
>> password to any accounts that have administrator privileges. Disable
>> booting from anything other than the hard drive and password protect the
>> BIOS.
>>
>
> Clear the CMOS data via motherboard jumper, password is cleared.
>
> Enter BIOS and set boot order to other medium.
>
> Boot from this other medium, crack/reset the Administrative password (any
> of them).
>
> Reboot, re-enabling the password in the BIOS to your own config.
>
> Parents may not know how to get control back.
>
> --------------------
> OK, so we found a way to break in...
>
> Install a physical lock on the computer to prevent the case from opening.
> Break the physical lock with cutters.
>
> Back to square one. Now what is your suggestion?
>
> ----------------------
> Just a note (not intended for directions) to show that any current
> mechanism to protect people are useless if the people have physical access
> to the machine. Lock it in a cabinet, break the lock. Seal the machine
> in a separate room, sledgehammer through the wall.
>
> In today's world, there is nothing that can stop physical access. Network
> access is the easiest, but physical isn't that hard to come by anyway.
>
> Thanks for your time.

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:34:25 -0700, "Kerry Brown"
<kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote:

>You are right. With physical access a determined person can get access. In
>this case we are talking about a family situation. If the precautions I
>indicated aren't enough to keep the kids from hacking into the computer the
>family has far deeper problems than securing computer access.

Oh please... any kid that's grown up in the era of computers can get
past any parental control in oh, about five minutes tops. Usually way
less. If he/she can't, he for sure has a buddy that can.

THe point IS.... you are the parent, they are the child. If they break the
rules, punish them. cancel their cell phone or ground them or disconnect
their internet. Be a parent. Stop depending on technology to do your job
for you.

Have a great friday!


"Adam Albright" wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:34:25 -0700, "Kerry Brown"
> <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote:
>
> >You are right. With physical access a determined person can get access. In
> >this case we are talking about a family situation. If the precautions I
> >indicated aren't enough to keep the kids from hacking into the computer the
> >family has far deeper problems than securing computer access.
>
> Oh please... any kid that's grown up in the era of computers can get
> past any parental control in oh, about five minutes tops. Usually way
> less. If he/she can't, he for sure has a buddy that can.
>
>