backup problem!

Hi,

I need to backup some files to other disk in Vista, but i don't want to
backup the system partition with the files.
What should i do ?

Thanks!

Aggie

>

Aggie

Easiest way would be to simply copy the files to the other drive in Windows
Explorer.

You can also use the File Backup program included in Vista. Go to Start/All
Programs/Accessories/System Tools and click on "Backup status and
configuration." When the window opens, select Backup Files on the left side
and then click on the "What file types are not included in the backup."


--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Aggie" <aggiexin@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I need to backup some files to other disk in Vista, but i don't want to
> backup the system partition with the files.
> What should i do ?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Aggie
>
>>
>
>

"Aggie" wrote
> Hi,
>
> I need to backup some files to other disk in Vista, but i don't want to
> backup the system partition with the files.
> What should i do ?

When using Complete PC Backup through the GUI it will include the
boot/system volume (or both if they are different). You cannot eliminate
that. The reasoning is that for a system recovery both these volumes need
to be restored.

You can select an individual volume to image from the command line using the
wbadmin.exe tool from an elevated command prompt. To get an elevated
command prompt click the start orb, type cmd, right click on it when it pops
up at the top left, and select Run as Administrator.

Give the command
wbadmin /?

to see the options. You must image on a full volume basis, not by
individual files.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Hi, Rock

Thanks for your help.
But I still have some questions about the backup problem.
If Vista can only backup the files with the system partition to a volume,
Vista is inconvenient.
And Vista is retrogressing.
For example, I want to backup some photos in the "D" volume. And in Vista I
need to backup the photos with other pictures of "C".
But I cannot do this.I haven't enough space for the backup.

Is the function that can backup an individual file removed from Vista?(XP
can work like this.)
Maybe is there some configurations I missed?
What should I do to make Vista backup files like XP?

Many thanks!

Aggie

"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eaZF9m0oHHA.3892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Aggie" wrote
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need to backup some files to other disk in Vista, but i don't want to
>> backup the system partition with the files.
>> What should i do ?
>
> When using Complete PC Backup through the GUI it will include the
> boot/system volume (or both if they are different). You cannot eliminate
> that. The reasoning is that for a system recovery both these volumes need
> to be restored.
>
> You can select an individual volume to image from the command line using
> the wbadmin.exe tool from an elevated command prompt. To get an elevated
> command prompt click the start orb, type cmd, right click on it when it
> pops up at the top left, and select Run as Administrator.
>
> Give the command
> wbadmin /?
>
> to see the options. You must image on a full volume basis, not by
> individual files.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Hi, Rock

Thanks for your help.
But I still have some questions about the backup problem.
If Vista can only backup the files with the system partition to a volume,
Vista is inconvenient.
And Vista is retrogressing.
For example, I want to backup some photos in the "D" volume. And in Vista I
need to backup the photos with other pictures of "C".
But I cannot do this.I haven't enough space for the backup.

Is the function that can backup an individual file removed from Vista?(XP
can work like this.)
Maybe is there some configurations I missed?
What should I do to make Vista backup files like XP?

Many thanks!

Aggie

"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eaZF9m0oHHA.3892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Aggie" wrote
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need to backup some files to other disk in Vista, but i don't want to
>> backup the system partition with the files.
>> What should i do ?
>
> When using Complete PC Backup through the GUI it will include the
> boot/system volume (or both if they are different). You cannot eliminate
> that. The reasoning is that for a system recovery both these volumes need
> to be restored.
>
> You can select an individual volume to image from the command line using
> the wbadmin.exe tool from an elevated command prompt. To get an elevated
> command prompt click the start orb, type cmd, right click on it when it
> pops up at the top left, and select Run as Administrator.
>
> Give the command
> wbadmin /?
>
> to see the options. You must image on a full volume basis, not by
> individual files.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Aggie wrote:
> Hi, Rock
>
> Thanks for your help.
> But I still have some questions about the backup problem.
> If Vista can only backup the files with the system partition to a volume,
> Vista is inconvenient.
> And Vista is retrogressing.
> For example, I want to backup some photos in the "D" volume. And in Vista I
> need to backup the photos with other pictures of "C".
> But I cannot do this.I haven't enough space for the backup.
>
> Is the function that can backup an individual file removed from Vista?(XP
> can work like this.)
> Maybe is there some configurations I missed?
> What should I do to make Vista backup files like XP?


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"Aggie" wrote
> Hi, Rock
>
> Thanks for your help.
> But I still have some questions about the backup problem.
> If Vista can only backup the files with the system partition to a volume,
> Vista is inconvenient.
> And Vista is retrogressing.

I can't see how you would call it retrogressing. There was no image backup
in XP. Complete PC Backup in Business, Enterprise and Ultimate is new for
Vista; it is a form of drive imaging.

Personally I ditched Ntbackup in XP years ago in favor of drive imaging. I
had questions about the reliability of ntbackup, it didn't allow for a
straight forward restore to a new, bare drive in case of a catastrophic
system failure, and it didn't support backup to CD/DVD. The ASR feature was
cumbersome, not reliable, only available on XP Pro, and required the
presence of a floppy drive.

When using the Complete PC Backup GUI you must backup the boot/system volume
(or both if they are different). Why? - to allow for a bare metal restore.
Both would be needed. Using the command line tool wbadmin.exe you can image
individual volumes. But Complete PC Backup does not allow for backing up
individual files or restoring individual files.

There is also the File Backup feature available on all editions of Vista.
That was redesigned to make it easier for the novice user. It backs up
files by type no matter where they are located. You cannot select
individual files to backup, so it is feature limited for advanced users.

> For example, I want to backup some photos in the "D" volume. And in Vista
> I
> need to backup the photos with other pictures of "C".
> But I cannot do this.I haven't enough space for the backup.
>
> Is the function that can backup an individual file removed from Vista?(XP
> can work like this.)
> Maybe is there some configurations I missed?
> What should I do to make Vista backup files like XP?

If you want more features than the backup programs in Vista allow then get a
3rd party program. The OS can't be everything to everyone. Monopoly is
always a concern.

Personally I rarely do file backups. I use Complete PC Backup and Acronis
True Image Home, version 10 to image the system drives to an external hard
drive. I use both for redundancy. ATI has more features allowing for
subsequent images to be incremental or differential, and restores can be
done on a file, partition or drive basis. It also does file backup and disk
cloning.

I image the system weekly with Complete PC Backup and ATI. I also do a
nightly incremental image with ATI. I alternate between two different
external hard drives on a weekly basis so one can be stored off site. With
this redundancy it's highly unlikely that a whole weeks worth of ATI backups
and the last Complete PC Backup image would be bad at the same time. The
most I would loose, in the best case is on day, the worst is one week.

Neil mentioned second copy as a file backup program. I haven't used it
myself but several people I know and respect use it on XP and highly
recommend it. Assuming it works on Vista, that would be something to look
at for file backup.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/...m/890000032831






"Aggie" <aggiexin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uMqTbp0pHHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Rock
>
> Thanks for your help.
> But I still have some questions about the backup problem.
> If Vista can only backup the files with the system partition to a volume,
> Vista is inconvenient.
> And Vista is retrogressing.
> For example, I want to backup some photos in the "D" volume. And in Vista
> I
> need to backup the photos with other pictures of "C".
> But I cannot do this.I haven't enough space for the backup.
>
> Is the function that can backup an individual file removed from Vista?(XP
> can work like this.)
> Maybe is there some configurations I missed?
> What should I do to make Vista backup files like XP?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Aggie
>
> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:eaZF9m0oHHA.3892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Aggie" wrote
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I need to backup some files to other disk in Vista, but i don't want to
>>> backup the system partition with the files.
>>> What should i do ?
>>
>> When using Complete PC Backup through the GUI it will include the
>> boot/system volume (or both if they are different). You cannot eliminate
>> that. The reasoning is that for a system recovery both these volumes
>> need to be restored.
>>
>> You can select an individual volume to image from the command line using
>> the wbadmin.exe tool from an elevated command prompt. To get an elevated
>> command prompt click the start orb, type cmd, right click on it when it
>> pops up at the top left, and select Run as Administrator.
>>
>> Give the command
>> wbadmin /?
>>
>> to see the options. You must image on a full volume basis, not by
>> individual files.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>