IE7 in Vista v. IE7 XP issue

I am dual booting for the moment between Vista and XP. I connect to work
email that is the Lotus Webmail product (work uses Lotus 6) with IE. In a
"new" or "reply" email using XP, I get a small prompt in the body of the
email to "press spacebar or enter to activate this control" before I can
type. However, in Vista, the body of the email never becomes available to
type, it is blank with a red x in the top left, the cursor stays busy and
this can be a show stopper for me in a 100% convertion to Vista as I need my
company email. IT at the office says it's a vista issue and not Lotus and
they cannot help. I am thinking it has something to do with how the
control(?) is handled between XP and Vista. Either way, I am stuck. In
researching I read something about disabling native xmlhttp support, but
that doesn't help and it is checked in IE7 for XP. I would be grateful for
any advice or assistance. Thanks

Microsoft lost a lawsuit over a UC Berkely (I think) patent which UC
whatever had licensed to some third-party. It was another one of these
stupid "I have an idea that has been in production for years but no one has
patented it so I will" patents. In any case, Microsoft cannot automatically
initialize active x controls any more. You have to take specific action to
do so.

Dale

"Ron P" <ronDOTpREMOVE@2REPLYmchsiDOT.com> wrote in message
news:OiwyMU9RHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I am dual booting for the moment between Vista and XP. I connect to work
>email that is the Lotus Webmail product (work uses Lotus 6) with IE. In a
>"new" or "reply" email using XP, I get a small prompt in the body of the
>email to "press spacebar or enter to activate this control" before I can
>type. However, in Vista, the body of the email never becomes available to
>type, it is blank with a red x in the top left, the cursor stays busy and
>this can be a show stopper for me in a 100% convertion to Vista as I need
>my company email. IT at the office says it's a vista issue and not Lotus
>and they cannot help. I am thinking it has something to do with how the
>control(?) is handled between XP and Vista. Either way, I am stuck. In
>researching I read something about disabling native xmlhttp support, but
>that doesn't help and it is checked in IE7 for XP. I would be grateful for
>any advice or assistance. Thanks
>

"Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message
news:%238eJgt9RHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft lost a lawsuit over a UC Berkely (I think) patent which UC
> whatever had licensed to some third-party. It was another one of these
> stupid "I have an idea that has been in production for years but no one
> has patented it so I will" patents. In any case, Microsoft cannot
> automatically initialize active x controls any more. You have to take
> specific action to do so.
>
> Dale
>
> "Ron P" <ronDOTpREMOVE@2REPLYmchsiDOT.com> wrote in message
> news:OiwyMU9RHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I am dual booting for the moment between Vista and XP. I connect to work
>>email that is the Lotus Webmail product (work uses Lotus 6) with IE. In a
>>"new" or "reply" email using XP, I get a small prompt in the body of the
>>email to "press spacebar or enter to activate this control" before I can
>>type. However, in Vista, the body of the email never becomes available to
>>type, it is blank with a red x in the top left, the cursor stays busy and
>>this can be a show stopper for me in a 100% convertion to Vista as I need
>>my company email. IT at the office says it's a vista issue and not Lotus
>>and they cannot help. I am thinking it has something to do with how the
>>control(?) is handled between XP and Vista. Either way, I am stuck. In
>>researching I read something about disabling native xmlhttp support, but
>>that doesn't help and it is checked in IE7 for XP. I would be grateful
>>for any advice or assistance. Thanks
>>
>

Thanks, appreciate it. Any idea how to activate it in Vista's version of
IE7? Why the difference between
the two? Again, thanks for the assist!

I haven't come across enough active x controls lately to have to deal with
it. I don't use OWA - though its available to me - or *shudder* Lotus.

Is there a yellow bar at the top of the client area in IE (the actual page
content) with instructions about activating the control? You may have to do
it every time you open the page.

If I remember correctly, the remedy Microsoft was required to give was to
absolutely block the automatic initialization of active x controls in new
operating systems, i.e. Vista, and to limit the activation in older
versions.. or maybe do nothing at all in older versions. But that is the
difference, they definitely had tighter requirements placed on them for
Vista and newer operating systems.

Dale

"Ron P" <ronDOTpREMOVE@2REPLYmchsiDOT.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message
> news:%238eJgt9RHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Microsoft lost a lawsuit over a UC Berkely (I think) patent which UC
>> whatever had licensed to some third-party. It was another one of these
>> stupid "I have an idea that has been in production for years but no one
>> has patented it so I will" patents. In any case, Microsoft cannot
>> automatically initialize active x controls any more. You have to take
>> specific action to do so.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> "Ron P" <ronDOTpREMOVE@2REPLYmchsiDOT.com> wrote in message
>> news:OiwyMU9RHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I am dual booting for the moment between Vista and XP. I connect to work
>>>email that is the Lotus Webmail product (work uses Lotus 6) with IE. In
>>>a "new" or "reply" email using XP, I get a small prompt in the body of
>>>the email to "press spacebar or enter to activate this control" before I
>>>can type. However, in Vista, the body of the email never becomes
>>>available to type, it is blank with a red x in the top left, the cursor
>>>stays busy and this can be a show stopper for me in a 100% convertion to
>>>Vista as I need my company email. IT at the office says it's a vista
>>>issue and not Lotus and they cannot help. I am thinking it has something
>>>to do with how the control(?) is handled between XP and Vista. Either
>>>way, I am stuck. In researching I read something about disabling native
>>>xmlhttp support, but that doesn't help and it is checked in IE7 for XP.
>>>I would be grateful for any advice or assistance. Thanks
>>>
>>
>
> Thanks, appreciate it. Any idea how to activate it in Vista's version of
> IE7? Why the difference between
> the two? Again, thanks for the assist!
>

"Ron P" wrote:

>I am dual booting for the moment between Vista and XP. I connect to work
>email that is the Lotus Webmail product (work uses Lotus 6) with IE. In a
>"new" or "reply" email using XP, I get a small prompt in the body of the
>email to "press spacebar or enter to activate this control" before I can
>type. However, in Vista, the body of the email never becomes available to
>type, it is blank with a red x in the top left, the cursor stays busy and
>this can be a show stopper for me in a 100% convertion to Vista as I need
>my company email. IT at the office says it's a vista issue and not Lotus
>and they cannot help. I am thinking it has something to do with how the
>control(?) is handled between XP and Vista. Either way, I am stuck. In
>researching I read something about disabling native xmlhttp support, but
>that doesn't help and it is checked in IE7 for XP. I would be grateful for
>any advice or assistance. Thanks

I have had the exact same problem, only with Outlook Web Access rather than
the Lotus product. When I researched it, I found information that Vista IE7
no longer supports the control that runs OWA. So, I now connect to the OWA
using Firefox.

Ken

"Ken Gardner" <kesgardner@charter.net> wrote in message
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> "Ron P" wrote:
>
>>I am dual booting for the moment between Vista and XP. I connect to work
>>email that is the Lotus Webmail product (work uses Lotus 6) with IE. In a
>>"new" or "reply" email using XP, I get a small prompt in the body of the
>>email to "press spacebar or enter to activate this control" before I can
>>type. However, in Vista, the body of the email never becomes available to
>>type, it is blank with a red x in the top left, the cursor stays busy and
>>this can be a show stopper for me in a 100% convertion to Vista as I need
>>my company email. IT at the office says it's a vista issue and not Lotus
>>and they cannot help. I am thinking it has something to do with how the
>>control(?) is handled between XP and Vista. Either way, I am stuck. In
>>researching I read something about disabling native xmlhttp support, but
>>that doesn't help and it is checked in IE7 for XP. I would be grateful
>>for any advice or assistance. Thanks
>
> I have had the exact same problem, only with Outlook Web Access rather
> than the Lotus product. When I researched it, I found information that
> Vista IE7 no longer supports the control that runs OWA. So, I now connect
> to the OWA using Firefox.
>
> Ken

I saw your post and Dale's just a bit ago. It helps alot, but now I get
Domino access warning messages
which is on my mail administrators end to fix with an update, not mine (and
that will take an act of congress).
Still works though, thanks.

"Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message
news:uLCI0R%23RHHA.4404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I haven't come across enough active x controls lately to have to deal with
>it. I don't use OWA - though its available to me - or *shudder* Lotus.
>
> Is there a yellow bar at the top of the client area in IE (the actual page
> content) with instructions about activating the control? You may have to
> do it every time you open the page.
>
> If I remember correctly, the remedy Microsoft was required to give was to
> absolutely block the automatic initialization of active x controls in new
> operating systems, i.e. Vista, and to limit the activation in older
> versions.. or maybe do nothing at all in older versions. But that is the
> difference, they definitely had tighter requirements placed on them for
> Vista and newer operating systems.
>
> Dale
>
> "Ron P" <ronDOTpREMOVE@2REPLYmchsiDOT.com> wrote in message
> news:%239FiZI%23RHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message
>> news:%238eJgt9RHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Microsoft lost a lawsuit over a UC Berkely (I think) patent which UC
>>> whatever had licensed to some third-party. It was another one of these
>>> stupid "I have an idea that has been in production for years but no one
>>> has patented it so I will" patents. In any case, Microsoft cannot
>>> automatically initialize active x controls any more. You have to take
>>> specific action to do so.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> "Ron P" <ronDOTpREMOVE@2REPLYmchsiDOT.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OiwyMU9RHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I am dual booting for the moment between Vista and XP. I connect to
>>>>work email that is the Lotus Webmail product (work uses Lotus 6) with
>>>>IE. In a "new" or "reply" email using XP, I get a small prompt in the
>>>>body of the email to "press spacebar or enter to activate this control"
>>>>before I can type. However, in Vista, the body of the email never
>>>>becomes available to type, it is blank with a red x in the top left, the
>>>>cursor stays busy and this can be a show stopper for me in a 100%
>>>>convertion to Vista as I need my company email. IT at the office says
>>>>it's a vista issue and not Lotus and they cannot help. I am thinking it
>>>>has something to do with how the control(?) is handled between XP and
>>>>Vista. Either way, I am stuck. In researching I read something about
>>>>disabling native xmlhttp support, but that doesn't help and it is
>>>>checked in IE7 for XP. I would be grateful for any advice or assistance.
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, appreciate it. Any idea how to activate it in Vista's version of
>> IE7? Why the difference between
>> the two? Again, thanks for the assist!
>>
>

Yea, if it doesn't work on outlook web access either, then I would imagine
some sort of
update or change. I am suprised this wasn't addressed during all the beta
tests...

I guess Microsoft having made IE7 part of the operating system finally bit
them in the butt.

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"Ron P" <ronDOTpREMOVE@2REPLYmchsiDOT.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken Gardner" <kesgardner@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:0EE6D4A3-EDCB-494D-8FF9-DEDB2A8C833D@microsoft.com...
>> "Ron P" wrote:
>>
>>>I am dual booting for the moment between Vista and XP. I connect to work
>>>email that is the Lotus Webmail product (work uses Lotus 6) with IE. In
>>>a "new" or "reply" email using XP, I get a small prompt in the body of
>>>the email to "press spacebar or enter to activate this control" before I
>>>can type. However, in Vista, the body of the email never becomes
>>>available to type, it is blank with a red x in the top left, the cursor
>>>stays busy and this can be a show stopper for me in a 100% convertion to
>>>Vista as I need my company email. IT at the office says it's a vista
>>>issue and not Lotus and they cannot help. I am thinking it has something
>>>to do with how the control(?) is handled between XP and Vista. Either
>>>way, I am stuck. In researching I read something about disabling native
>>>xmlhttp support, but that doesn't help and it is checked in IE7 for XP.
>>>I would be grateful for any advice or assistance. Thanks
>>
>> I have had the exact same problem, only with Outlook Web Access rather
>> than the Lotus product. When I researched it, I found information that
>> Vista IE7 no longer supports the control that runs OWA. So, I now
>> connect to the OWA using Firefox.
>>
>> Ken
>
> I saw your post and Dale's just a bit ago. It helps alot, but now I get
> Domino access warning messages
> which is on my mail administrators end to fix with an update, not mine
> (and that will take an act of congress).
> Still works though, thanks.
>