defrag comand vs defrag windows

Hi,

I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
the programme from windows.

The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.

Thanks

In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
if so, How?

"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> the programme from windows.
>
> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>
> Thanks
>

On Mon, 7 May 2007 08:22:02 +1000, "Acidburns" <acidburns@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
>if so, How?
>

Why do you feel the need to view a map? When you save a file to disk
do you feel compelled to view a map of where it's being saved? I'm
not trying to be a wise ass, I just really curious about the
compulsion people have to view a map during defrag operations.


>"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
>> the programme from windows.
>>
>> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
>> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>>
>> Thanks
>>

In my particular instance I wanted to view a map because I had a 140gb hdd
with 100gb free, except windows would only let me shrink the partition 7gig.

I wanted to see whether data towards the end was stopping me from shrinking
further. Viewing a map would tell me yes or no, defrag would fix and let me
shrink further. no data would make me look into it further.

I'm not compelled to look at a defrag map for any reason other than
necisity.

"Ashton Crusher" <demi@moore.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 7 May 2007 08:22:02 +1000, "Acidburns" <acidburns@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
>>if so, How?
>>
>
> Why do you feel the need to view a map? When you save a file to disk
> do you feel compelled to view a map of where it's being saved? I'm
> not trying to be a wise ass, I just really curious about the
> compulsion people have to view a map during defrag operations.
>
>
>>"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>>news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
>>> the programme from windows.
>>>
>>> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
>>> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

They elected not to show a map for Vista's defrag. I'd download and try
Perfect Disk free 30 days full functionality from Raxco that was
considerably bettere when I compared them both for a couple months.

www.raxco.com

Considerable information is available on this blog for MSFT's Vista defrag:
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...r/default.aspx

CH

"Acidburns" <acidburns@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
> if so, How?
>
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegrou ps.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
>> the programme from windows.
>>
>> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
>> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

Hi species 8350--

Defrag from command line is not "better" but it has multiple switches so it
has some options:


A quick note about Defrag.exe parameters in Windows Vista
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...arameters.aspx

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Description: Locates and consolidates fragmented files on local volumes to
improve system performance.

Syntax: defrag <volume> -a [-v]
defrag <volume> [{-r | -w}] [-f] [-v]
defrag -c [{-r | -w}] [-f] [-v]

Parameters:

Value Description

<volume> Specifies the drive letter or mount point path of the volume
to
be defragmented or analyzed.

-c Defragments all volumes on this computer.

-a Performs fragmentation analysis only.

-r Performs partial defragmentation (default). Attempts to
consolidate only fragments smaller than 64 megabytes (MB).

-w Performs full defragmentation. Attempts to consolidate all
file
fragments, regardless of their size.

-f Forces defragmentation of the volume when free space is low.

-v Specifies verbose mode. The defragmentation and analysis
output
is more detailed.

-? Displays this help information.

Examples:

defrag d:
defrag d:\vol\mountpoint -w -f
defrag d: -a -v
defrag -c -v

CH


"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> the programme from windows.
>
> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>
> Thanks
>

If you have more than one drive, it lets you specify the drive. In the GUI
version, I think it defrags all your drives.


"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegrou ps.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> the programme from windows.
>
> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>
> Thanks
>

what we all want is the % bar that was in XP.
It does help to know how long the thing is going to take to defrag; not be
at the whim on microsoft

"Ashton Crusher" wrote:

> On Mon, 7 May 2007 08:22:02 +1000, "Acidburns" <acidburns@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
> >if so, How?
> >
>
> Why do you feel the need to view a map? When you save a file to disk
> do you feel compelled to view a map of where it's being saved? I'm
> not trying to be a wise ass, I just really curious about the
> compulsion people have to view a map during defrag operations.
>
>
> >"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> >news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> >> the programme from windows.
> >>
> >> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> >> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
>

On May 7, 3:16 am, "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote:
> Hi species 8350--
>
> Defrag from command line is not "better" but it has multiple switches so it
> has some options:
>
> A quick note about Defrag.exe parameters in Windows Vistahttp://blogs.technet.com/filecab/archive/2006/10/19/a-quick-note-abou...
>
> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
> Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> Description: Locates and consolidates fragmented files on local volumes to
> improve system performance.
>
> Syntax: defrag <volume> -a [-v]
> defrag <volume> [{-r | -w}] [-f] [-v]
> defrag -c [{-r | -w}] [-f] [-v]
>
> Parameters:
>
> Value Description
>
> <volume> Specifies the drive letter or mount point path of the volume
> to
> be defragmented or analyzed.
>
> -c Defragments all volumes on this computer.
>
> -a Performs fragmentation analysis only.
>
> -r Performs partial defragmentation (default). Attempts to
> consolidate only fragments smaller than 64 megabytes (MB).
>
> -w Performs full defragmentation. Attempts to consolidate all
> file
> fragments, regardless of their size.
>
> -f Forces defragmentation of the volume when free space is low.
>
> -v Specifies verbose mode. The defragmentation and analysis
> output
> is more detailed.
>
> -? Displays this help information.
>
> Examples:
>
> defrag d:
> defrag d:\vol\mountpoint -w -f
> defrag d: -a -v
> defrag -c -v
>
> CH
>
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> > the programme from windows.
>
> > The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> > advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>
> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Chad

Thanks for the detail

I'll read you Blog.

best wishes

Sp

Ps. Any idea how long it will take to defrag a drive: 42GB used, 180GB
unused
1.8 Dual core processor, 1GB RAM. Machine 1 month old - not used a lot

On May 7, 6:45 am, Mick <M...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> what we all want is the % bar that was in XP.
> It does help to know how long the thing is going to take to defrag; not be
> at the whim on microsoft
>
>
>
> "Ashton Crusher" wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 May 2007 08:22:02 +1000, "Acidburns" <acidbu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
> > >if so, How?
>
> > Why do you feel the need to view a map? When you save a file to disk
> > do you feel compelled to view a map of where it's being saved? I'm
> > not trying to be a wise ass, I just really curious about the
> > compulsion people have to view a map during defrag operations.
>
> > >"species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> > >news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> Hi,
>
> > >> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> > >> the programme from windows.
>
> > >> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> > >> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>
> > >> Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mick,

I agree

Ps. feel free to answer the question I put to Chad - if you like

Best wishes