$49 Home Premium Family Discount question

I see that MS is selling 2 copies of VIsta Home Premium for $49.99 each for
purchasers of VIsta Ultimate. Does the version of Ultimate dictate which
version of Home you get? i.e. if I buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the Home
versions upgradess also? And vice versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate, are the
home versions Full versions?

Good question.

Here's your answer. This is from Nick White, Product Manager on the Windows
Marketing Communications team:

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...nts-today.aspx

If I were you I'd make sure I had a full version of a Vista DVD, (whichever
editions you choose), because without a full version, you're not going to
have access to the major tools that fix a broken Vista. I've outlined this
on several threads.

Good luck,

CH


"aaron" <aaron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1586D233-B267-44A2-9F80-22ED9ED5FCC3@microsoft.com...
>I see that MS is selling 2 copies of VIsta Home Premium for $49.99 each for
> purchasers of VIsta Ultimate. Does the version of Ultimate dictate which
> version of Home you get? i.e. if I buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the Home
> versions upgradess also? And vice versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate, are
> the
> home versions Full versions?

Chad, there is no difference between retail dvd's, upgrade edition or full
is determined by the product key. If there is no diff between dvd's, why
are you saying that the tools are not available? All retail dvd's being the
same, all will boot the computer and all have the full set of tools. Are
you confusing the retail dvd's with the volume license dvd's which may be
another story?

"Chad Harris" <fixvista-itneedsit.net> wrote in message
news:OOWMOk%23QHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Good question.
>
> Here's your answer. This is from Nick White, Product Manager on the
> Windows Marketing Communications team:
>
> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...nts-today.aspx
>
> If I were you I'd make sure I had a full version of a Vista DVD,
> (whichever editions you choose), because without a full version, you're
> not going to have access to the major tools that fix a broken Vista. I've
> outlined this on several threads.
>
> Good luck,
>
> CH
>
>
> "aaron" <aaron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1586D233-B267-44A2-9F80-22ED9ED5FCC3@microsoft.com...
>>I see that MS is selling 2 copies of VIsta Home Premium for $49.99 each
>>for
>> purchasers of VIsta Ultimate. Does the version of Ultimate dictate which
>> version of Home you get? i.e. if I buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the
>> Home
>> versions upgradess also? And vice versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate, are
>> the
>> home versions Full versions?
>

In article <OOWMOk#QHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Chad Harris wrote:
> Here's your answer. *This is from Nick White,


I just checked a moment ago and scrolled down the entire blog without seeing him
answer the same question that is there also:

> Does the version of Ultimate dictate which*version of Home you get? *i.e. if I
> buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the Home*versions upgradess also? *And vice >
versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate, are the*home versions Full versions?

That is the more important question anyway. My guess is that you get
upgrade VHP's with an upgrade Ultimate and full VHP with a full Ultimate
purchase, but I'm just making a WAG.

"Hugh Wyn Griffith" <huwyngr@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:VA.0000003c.004e56cf@tampabay.rr.com...
> In article <OOWMOk#QHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Chad Harris wrote:
>> Here's your answer. This is from Nick White,
>
>
> I just checked a moment ago and scrolled down the entire blog without
> seeing him
> answer the same question that is there also:
>
>> Does the version of Ultimate dictate which version of Home you get? i.e.
>> if I
>> buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the Home versions upgradess also? And vice
>> >
> versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate, are the home versions Full versions?
>
>
>

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote

> That is the more important question anyway. My guess is that you get
> upgrade VHP's with an upgrade Ultimate and full VHP with a full Ultimate
> purchase, but I'm just making a WAG.

> "Hugh Wyn Griffith" wrote

>> Chad Harris wrote:
>>> Here's your answer. This is from Nick White,
>>
>>
>> I just checked a moment ago and scrolled down the entire blog without
>> seeing him
>> answer the same question that is there also:
>>
>>> Does the version of Ultimate dictate which version of Home you get? i.e.
>>> if I
>>> buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the Home versions upgradess also? And vice
>>> >
>> versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate, are the home versions Full versions?

That would seem to be the reasonable conclusion.

--
Rock [MVP - User/Shell]

LOL. Except that it appears wrong. According to another poster, the two
VHPs are upgrade edition keys.

"Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:%234AGUkCRHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote
>
>> That is the more important question anyway. My guess is that you get
>> upgrade VHP's with an upgrade Ultimate and full VHP with a full Ultimate
>> purchase, but I'm just making a WAG.
>
>> "Hugh Wyn Griffith" wrote
>
>>> Chad Harris wrote:
>>>> Here's your answer. This is from Nick White,
>>>
>>>
>>> I just checked a moment ago and scrolled down the entire blog without
>>> seeing him
>>> answer the same question that is there also:
>>>
>>>> Does the version of Ultimate dictate which version of Home you get?
>>>> i.e. if I
>>>> buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the Home versions upgradess also? And
>>>> vice >
>>> versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate, are the home versions Full versions?
>
> That would seem to be the reasonable conclusion.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]

No-- I wasn't confusing them. If this is so, I'm wrong then about their
not being access to the Win RE tools on an upgrade if it's bootable.

I'm still not happy about the requirement to load and activate the legacy
DVD when the easy alternative would have been one George Ou suggested in his
article.

CH

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
news:eSBMZBBRHHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Chad, there is no difference between retail dvd's, upgrade edition or full
> is determined by the product key. If there is no diff between dvd's, why
> are you saying that the tools are not available? All retail dvd's being
> the same, all will boot the computer and all have the full set of tools.
> Are you confusing the retail dvd's with the volume license dvd's which may
> be another story?
>
> "Chad Harris" <fixvista-itneedsit.net> wrote in message
> news:OOWMOk%23QHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Good question.
>>
>> Here's your answer. This is from Nick White, Product Manager on the
>> Windows Marketing Communications team:
>>
>> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...nts-today.aspx
>>
>> If I were you I'd make sure I had a full version of a Vista DVD,
>> (whichever editions you choose), because without a full version, you're
>> not going to have access to the major tools that fix a broken Vista.
>> I've outlined this on several threads.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>> "aaron" <aaron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1586D233-B267-44A2-9F80-22ED9ED5FCC3@microsoft.com...
>>>I see that MS is selling 2 copies of VIsta Home Premium for $49.99 each
>>>for
>>> purchasers of VIsta Ultimate. Does the version of Ultimate dictate
>>> which
>>> version of Home you get? i.e. if I buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the
>>> Home
>>> versions upgradess also? And vice versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate,
>>> are the
>>> home versions Full versions?
>>
>

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1D5B9740-5FED-408A-B906-8AFBE9AC0BBB@microsoft.com...
> LOL. Except that it appears wrong. According to another poster, the two
> VHPs are upgrade edition keys.
>
> "Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:%234AGUkCRHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote
>>
>>> That is the more important question anyway. My guess is that you get
>>> upgrade VHP's with an upgrade Ultimate and full VHP with a full Ultimate
>>> purchase, but I'm just making a WAG.
>>
>>> "Hugh Wyn Griffith" wrote
>>
>>>> Chad Harris wrote:
>>>>> Here's your answer. This is from Nick White,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just checked a moment ago and scrolled down the entire blog without
>>>> seeing him
>>>> answer the same question that is there also:
>>>>
>>>>> Does the version of Ultimate dictate which version of Home you get?
>>>>> i.e. if I
>>>>> buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the Home versions upgradess also? And
>>>>> vice >
>>>> versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate, are the home versions Full versions?
>>
>> That would seem to be the reasonable conclusion.


Are you talking about smartie's post. I didn't catch that part. Let me
see. The download was an upgrade edition but it didn't specify if he bought
an upgrade Ultimate or the full version, but alas it might very well be only
an upgrade, and from one perspective it makes sense since it is to help a
family with more than one PC move to Vista, which implies those PC's already
have a qualifying OS. Sigh ... oh what tangled webs we weave.

--
Rock [MVP - User/Shell]

Exactly. It would be easy to require running a tool on each of the other
computers to be sure that the installed Windows even qualifies. Or, simply
charge $79.95 for a full edition license.

"Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:uDbHlhERHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1D5B9740-5FED-408A-B906-8AFBE9AC0BBB@microsoft.com...
>> LOL. Except that it appears wrong. According to another poster, the two
>> VHPs are upgrade edition keys.
>>
>> "Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:%234AGUkCRHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote
>>>
>>>> That is the more important question anyway. My guess is that you get
>>>> upgrade VHP's with an upgrade Ultimate and full VHP with a full
>>>> Ultimate purchase, but I'm just making a WAG.
>>>
>>>> "Hugh Wyn Griffith" wrote
>>>
>>>>> Chad Harris wrote:
>>>>>> Here's your answer. This is from Nick White,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I just checked a moment ago and scrolled down the entire blog without
>>>>> seeing him
>>>>> answer the same question that is there also:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the version of Ultimate dictate which version of Home you get?
>>>>>> i.e. if I
>>>>>> buy the Ultimate upgrade, are the Home versions upgradess also? And
>>>>>> vice >
>>>>> versa, if I buy the Full Ultimate, are the home versions Full
>>>>> versions?
>>>
>>> That would seem to be the reasonable conclusion.
>
>
> Are you talking about smartie's post. I didn't catch that part. Let me
> see. The download was an upgrade edition but it didn't specify if he
> bought an upgrade Ultimate or the full version, but alas it might very
> well be only an upgrade, and from one perspective it makes sense since it
> is to help a family with more than one PC move to Vista, which implies
> those PC's already have a qualifying OS. Sigh ... oh what tangled webs we
> weave.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]