Does Windows Vista "Play Nice" with Linux?

Hi,

I use Linux extensively on my home computer as it is vital to my work. For
various other reasons, I plan on purchasing & installing Vista on a separate
partition on my computer. This leads me to ask the question: will Vista's
installer "play nicely" with Linux? Previous MS OSs have had a rough time
with Linux, with some going as far as to ...

- offer to reformat my jfs/ext3 drives
- overwrite my grubby bootloader
- refuse to install on anything other than /dev/hda1

(just to name a few...)

Thus, as a potential Microsoft customer, I want Vista to co-exist "nicely"
with my Linux system and incur as little hassle for me as possible when I go
to install it. What can I expect from a Vista install on a (current)
dual-booting Windows 2000/Linux machine?

K.

Dual-boot Windows Vista and Linux
http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Kris" wrote:

Hi,

I use Linux extensively on my home computer as it is vital to my work. For
various other reasons, I plan on purchasing & installing Vista on a separate
partition on my computer. This leads me to ask the question: will Vista's
installer "play nicely" with Linux? Previous MS OSs have had a rough time
with Linux, with some going as far as to ...

- offer to reformat my jfs/ext3 drives
- overwrite my grubby bootloader
- refuse to install on anything other than /dev/hda1

(just to name a few...)

Thus, as a potential Microsoft customer, I want Vista to co-exist "nicely"
with my Linux system and incur as little hassle for me as possible when I go
to install it. What can I expect from a Vista install on a (current)
dual-booting Windows 2000/Linux machine?

K.

Hi,

> Dual-boot Windows Vista and Linux
> http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html

Thanks for your prompt replay. Basically, it looks like I'll need to boot
off a spare rescue disc & reinstall grubby ... but other than that, it should
be okay.

Thx.

K.

Hello Kris,

Your question is very valid.

There is a very knowledge filled Post (dual boot) located at, Windows
General Discussion, “Subject� Dual Boot Problems, Posted by “jimmuh� that is
filled with learned experiences, well worthy of a read.

Likely, the above Post will answer most of your questions. However, the
above Post discusses XP & Vista, not specifically Linux.

Respectfully, since you have expressed previous conflicts (I think you
implied) dual booting Linux and Windows; in my experiences, should one dual
boot Linux and Vista it is near guaranteed that troubles and conflicts will
rapidly follow.

Sincerely, no offense please, Vista Ultimate is simply too technically
advanced compared to Linux. Understand your work dilemma... have you
considered loading each OS on different HDDs using the same machine? Perhaps,
that would provide the best true method for evaluating the functionalities
within each OS without each OS fighting each other.

Might consider loading Vista Ultimate with BitLocker and EFS active on an
individual HDD for a real demonstration / comparisons for what Windows Vista
demonstrates regarding inherent ultimate Security.

There is a reason major corporations are purchasing Vista as if there is no
end for tomorrow, or, possibly as if the supply will not maintain product
demand.

The true factual reason, simply, the inherent ultimate Security provided by
Windows Vista; 64-bit Vista provides greater Security compare to 32-bit Vista.


--
Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !

Posting & Painting
"Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
exposing them to the critic."

(Ambrose Bierce)




"Kris" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I use Linux extensively on my home computer as it is vital to my work. For
> various other reasons, I plan on purchasing & installing Vista on a separate
> partition on my computer. This leads me to ask the question: will Vista's
> installer "play nicely" with Linux? Previous MS OSs have had a rough time
> with Linux, with some going as far as to ...
>
> - offer to reformat my jfs/ext3 drives
> - overwrite my grubby bootloader
> - refuse to install on anything other than /dev/hda1
>
> (just to name a few...)
>
> Thus, as a potential Microsoft customer, I want Vista to co-exist "nicely"
> with my Linux system and incur as little hassle for me as possible when I go
> to install it. What can I expect from a Vista install on a (current)
> dual-booting Windows 2000/Linux machine?
>
> K.

Hi,

> Sincerely, no offense please, Vista Ultimate is simply too technically
> advanced compared to Linux.

Hehe, while your response made me chuckle, I don't want to discuss the
merits of Linux vs. Microsoft in this thread or forum.

Coming back to topic, I think that my question has pretty much been answered
(based on the discussion at one of the provided links) -- Vista will
co-exist, but the installer will overwrite the boot loader. This is easy for
me to fix.

(Note: it *is*, nevertheless, an annoying hassle that doesn't *really* have
to exist. This kind of design decision makes me want to talk it over with
the developers that worked on the Vista installer...

K.

Hello Kris,

Laughter is good medicine for the soul, and our attitudes.

Intuition gently informs me that possibly you currently have a line of
communication with Microsoft for obtaining what you desire for knowing.

In the meantime, if desired, at your convenience, there are many, many
online articles provided by Microsoft’s Vista developers and engineers fully
discussing every detail regarding Windows Vista. The articles range from
general knowledge to in-depth Technology IT knowledge based for clearly
satisfying the desires of every of ones level of computing knowledge.

Seriously please understand, secondary to technological security
advancements, Vista is not the typical PnP OS. One small example, when
formatting the HDD, BitLocker requires for the *first active volume to be at
least 1.5 Gig, and the remaining capacity for the OS and/or additional
volumes if needed or desired.

By the way, the statements within my original Post required near two years
for mastering, and been doing computing stuff much longer than I desire
remembering (makes me feel old).

Wishing you a marvelous adventure while mastering Vista… also, if
experimenting with Vista on an individual HDD, have faith and courage for
running Vista solo just for evaluating Vista’s inherent ultimate security.

--
Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !

Posting & Painting
"Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
exposing them to the critic."

(Ambrose Bierce)




"Kris" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > Sincerely, no offense please, Vista Ultimate is simply too technically
> > advanced compared to Linux.
>
> Hehe, while your response made me chuckle, I don't want to discuss the
> merits of Linux vs. Microsoft in this thread or forum.
>
> Coming back to topic, I think that my question has pretty much been answered
> (based on the discussion at one of the provided links) -- Vista will
> co-exist, but the installer will overwrite the boot loader. This is easy for
> me to fix.
>
> (Note: it *is*, nevertheless, an annoying hassle that doesn't *really* have
> to exist. This kind of design decision makes me want to talk it over with
> the developers that worked on the Vista installer...
>
> K.

Have you 'mastered' the difference between an icon and a toolbar yet?
Or will that take an additional two years of study 'the hard way'?

--
Maxwell Bluemeanie
"Vista Ready" <VistaReady@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7723D927-4F30-42A7-90CE-F58BC3E28493@microsoft.com...
>
> By the way, the statements within my original Post required near two years
> for mastering, and been doing computing stuff much longer than I desire
> remembering (makes me feel old).

Hi Kris,

It'll overwrite GRUB, so you'll have to repair it afterwards. A Windows
install will nearly always offer to format/convert any unknown volumes, as
it likes being the only OS on the system (multibooters are the exception,
the majority would want it to be able to write to all partitions). Setup
will allow you to install the bits anywhere on the drive, but it must have
access to the active partition as well (hiding it via a boot manager or BIOS
blocking may result in a failed install). Otherwise, it's no different than
any other Win/Lin dual boot install.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Kris" <Kris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BE9DD80E-5C1C-48D5-8114-9840994413FE@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I use Linux extensively on my home computer as it is vital to my work.
> For
> various other reasons, I plan on purchasing & installing Vista on a
> separate
> partition on my computer. This leads me to ask the question: will Vista's
> installer "play nicely" with Linux? Previous MS OSs have had a rough time
> with Linux, with some going as far as to ...
>
> - offer to reformat my jfs/ext3 drives
> - overwrite my grubby bootloader
> - refuse to install on anything other than /dev/hda1
>
> (just to name a few...)
>
> Thus, as a potential Microsoft customer, I want Vista to co-exist "nicely"
> with my Linux system and incur as little hassle for me as possible when I
> go
> to install it. What can I expect from a Vista install on a (current)
> dual-booting Windows 2000/Linux machine?
>
> K.

I have to ask this.. Are you for real?


"Vista Ready" <VistaReady@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7723D927-4F30-42A7-90CE-F58BC3E28493@microsoft.com...
> Hello Kris,
>
> Laughter is good medicine for the soul, and our attitudes.
>
> Intuition gently informs me that possibly you currently have a line of
> communication with Microsoft for obtaining what you desire for knowing.
>
> In the meantime, if desired, at your convenience, there are many, many
> online articles provided by Microsoft’s Vista developers and engineers
> fully
> discussing every detail regarding Windows Vista. The articles range from
> general knowledge to in-depth Technology IT knowledge based for clearly
> satisfying the desires of every of ones level of computing knowledge.
>
> Seriously please understand, secondary to technological security
> advancements, Vista is not the typical PnP OS. One small example, when
> formatting the HDD, BitLocker requires for the *first active volume to be
> at
> least 1.5 Gig, and the remaining capacity for the OS and/or additional
> volumes if needed or desired.
>
> By the way, the statements within my original Post required near two years
> for mastering, and been doing computing stuff much longer than I desire
> remembering (makes me feel old).
>
> Wishing you a marvelous adventure while mastering Vista… also, if
> experimenting with Vista on an individual HDD, have faith and courage for
> running Vista solo just for evaluating Vista’s inherent ultimate security.
>
> --
> Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !
>
> Posting & Painting
> "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
> exposing them to the critic."
>
> (Ambrose Bierce)
>
>
>
>
> "Kris" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > Sincerely, no offense please, Vista Ultimate is simply too technically
>> > advanced compared to Linux.
>>
>> Hehe, while your response made me chuckle, I don't want to discuss the
>> merits of Linux vs. Microsoft in this thread or forum.
>>
>> Coming back to topic, I think that my question has pretty much been
>> answered
>> (based on the discussion at one of the provided links) -- Vista will
>> co-exist, but the installer will overwrite the boot loader. This is easy
>> for
>> me to fix.
>>
>> (Note: it *is*, nevertheless, an annoying hassle that doesn't *really*
>> have
>> to exist. This kind of design decision makes me want to talk it over
>> with
>> the developers that worked on the Vista installer...
>>
>> K.

Hello Mike,

As real as the waking morning Sun,

As real as Bill's love for playing poker, specifically, Texas Hold Em.
--
Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !

Posting & Painting
"Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
exposing them to the critic."

(Ambrose Bierce)




"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" wrote:

> I have to ask this.. Are you for real?
>
>
> "Vista Ready" <VistaReady@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7723D927-4F30-42A7-90CE-F58BC3E28493@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Kris,
> >
> > Laughter is good medicine for the soul, and our attitudes.
> >
> > Intuition gently informs me that possibly you currently have a line of
> > communication with Microsoft for obtaining what you desire for knowing.
> >
> > In the meantime, if desired, at your convenience, there are many, many
> > online articles provided by Microsoft’s Vista developers and engineers
> > fully
> > discussing every detail regarding Windows Vista. The articles range from
> > general knowledge to in-depth Technology IT knowledge based for clearly
> > satisfying the desires of every of ones level of computing knowledge.
> >
> > Seriously please understand, secondary to technological security
> > advancements, Vista is not the typical PnP OS. One small example, when
> > formatting the HDD, BitLocker requires for the *first active volume to be
> > at
> > least 1.5 Gig, and the remaining capacity for the OS and/or additional
> > volumes if needed or desired.
> >
> > By the way, the statements within my original Post required near two years
> > for mastering, and been doing computing stuff much longer than I desire
> > remembering (makes me feel old).
> >
> > Wishing you a marvelous adventure while mastering Vista… also, if
> > experimenting with Vista on an individual HDD, have faith and courage for
> > running Vista solo just for evaluating Vista’s inherent ultimate security.
> >
> > --
> > Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !
> >
> > Posting & Painting
> > "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
> > exposing them to the critic."
> >
> > (Ambrose Bierce)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kris" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> > Sincerely, no offense please, Vista Ultimate is simply too technically
> >> > advanced compared to Linux.
> >>
> >> Hehe, while your response made me chuckle, I don't want to discuss the
> >> merits of Linux vs. Microsoft in this thread or forum.
> >>
> >> Coming back to topic, I think that my question has pretty much been
> >> answered
> >> (based on the discussion at one of the provided links) -- Vista will
> >> co-exist, but the installer will overwrite the boot loader. This is easy
> >> for
> >> me to fix.
> >>
> >> (Note: it *is*, nevertheless, an annoying hassle that doesn't *really*
> >> have
> >> to exist. This kind of design decision makes me want to talk it over
> >> with
> >> the developers that worked on the Vista installer...
> >>
> >> K.
>
>