Vista backup and restore center

very frustrated...

MS says this:

Of course, backup is only as useful as the recovery experience, which has
been expanded in scope and usefulness in Windows Vista. A wizard helps you
select the files or folders to restore and prompts you for restore media.
Then it restores the files you select.

thats just not accurate! i just did a backup, which happens as an image, not
a file-level backup. then as a test i tried clicking "restore files" and was
told there are no backups to restore... anyone having issues with this "new
and improved" backup experience?

ok so if you choose "backup files" there is no way to specify what files to
backup... only what file types (ridiculous)
then it creates a bunch of zip files in the destination... the restore
process does let you pick individual files to restore... which makes it even
stranger that you cant specify individual files to backup! this needs work!



"Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
news:41D57607-4B32-46E8-893E-76BCB6009A4A@microsoft.com...
> very frustrated...
>
> MS says this:
>
> Of course, backup is only as useful as the recovery experience, which has
> been expanded in scope and usefulness in Windows Vista. A wizard helps you
> select the files or folders to restore and prompts you for restore media.
> Then it restores the files you select.
>
> thats just not accurate! i just did a backup, which happens as an image,
> not a file-level backup. then as a test i tried clicking "restore files"
> and was told there are no backups to restore... anyone having issues with
> this "new and improved" backup experience?
>
>

Troy,

If you want to save yourself some aggravation and use
a better product, I suggest Acronis True Image 10. It does
more than just make images. It is an excellent file backup
program... it is what you are wanting. I'm sure they have
a trial download. Test it and see. You'll like and it will be some
of the best money you have ever spent on software.
Without a doubt.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/

-Michael

"Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
news:502B1BE6-ED44-493E-AB15-2A67CD912E5B@microsoft.com...
> ok so if you choose "backup files" there is no way to specify what files to backup... only
> what file types (ridiculous)
> then it creates a bunch of zip files in the destination... the restore process does let you
> pick individual files to restore... which makes it even stranger that you cant specify
> individual files to backup! this needs work!
>
>
>
> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
> news:41D57607-4B32-46E8-893E-76BCB6009A4A@microsoft.com...
>> very frustrated...
>>
>> MS says this:
>>
>> Of course, backup is only as useful as the recovery experience, which has been expanded in
>> scope and usefulness in Windows Vista. A wizard helps you select the files or folders to
>> restore and prompts you for restore media. Then it restores the files you select.
>>
>> thats just not accurate! i just did a backup, which happens as an image, not a file-level
>> backup. then as a test i tried clicking "restore files" and was told there are no backups to
>> restore... anyone having issues with this "new and improved" backup experience?
>>
>>
>

ive always used ghost... but v9 doesnt run on vista. i need the capability
of taking an image based backup, but then being able to "browse" the image
and selectively restore files from it.... why MS didnt include this
capability ill never understand

ill try ghost10 and see if it works for vista yet




"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:ea8QlrIQHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Troy,
>
> If you want to save yourself some aggravation and use
> a better product, I suggest Acronis True Image 10. It does
> more than just make images. It is an excellent file backup
> program... it is what you are wanting. I'm sure they have
> a trial download. Test it and see. You'll like and it will be some
> of the best money you have ever spent on software.
> Without a doubt.
>
> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/
>
> -Michael
>
> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
> news:502B1BE6-ED44-493E-AB15-2A67CD912E5B@microsoft.com...
>> ok so if you choose "backup files" there is no way to specify what files
>> to backup... only what file types (ridiculous)
>> then it creates a bunch of zip files in the destination... the restore
>> process does let you pick individual files to restore... which makes it
>> even stranger that you cant specify individual files to backup! this
>> needs work!
>>
>>
>>
>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>> news:41D57607-4B32-46E8-893E-76BCB6009A4A@microsoft.com...
>>> very frustrated...
>>>
>>> MS says this:
>>>
>>> Of course, backup is only as useful as the recovery experience, which
>>> has been expanded in scope and usefulness in Windows Vista. A wizard
>>> helps you select the files or folders to restore and prompts you for
>>> restore media. Then it restores the files you select.
>>>
>>> thats just not accurate! i just did a backup, which happens as an image,
>>> not a file-level backup. then as a test i tried clicking "restore files"
>>> and was told there are no backups to restore... anyone having issues
>>> with this "new and improved" backup experience?
>>>
>>>
>>
>

You can explore the images created by Acronis True Image.

-Michael

"Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
news4104AC5-86FB-4E47-BAF9-51E416FF68A3@microsoft.com...
> ive always used ghost... but v9 doesnt run on vista. i need the capability of taking an image
> based backup, but then being able to "browse" the image and selectively restore files from
> it.... why MS didnt include this capability ill never understand
>
> ill try ghost10 and see if it works for vista yet
>
>
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:ea8QlrIQHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Troy,
>>
>> If you want to save yourself some aggravation and use
>> a better product, I suggest Acronis True Image 10. It does
>> more than just make images. It is an excellent file backup
>> program... it is what you are wanting. I'm sure they have
>> a trial download. Test it and see. You'll like and it will be some
>> of the best money you have ever spent on software.
>> Without a doubt.
>>
>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>> news:502B1BE6-ED44-493E-AB15-2A67CD912E5B@microsoft.com...
>>> ok so if you choose "backup files" there is no way to specify what files to backup... only
>>> what file types (ridiculous)
>>> then it creates a bunch of zip files in the destination... the restore process does let you
>>> pick individual files to restore... which makes it even stranger that you cant specify
>>> individual files to backup! this needs work!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>>> news:41D57607-4B32-46E8-893E-76BCB6009A4A@microsoft.com...
>>>> very frustrated...
>>>>
>>>> MS says this:
>>>>
>>>> Of course, backup is only as useful as the recovery experience, which has been expanded in
>>>> scope and usefulness in Windows Vista. A wizard helps you select the files or folders to
>>>> restore and prompts you for restore media. Then it restores the files you select.
>>>>
>>>> thats just not accurate! i just did a backup, which happens as an image, not a file-level
>>>> backup. then as a test i tried clicking "restore files" and was told there are no backups
>>>> to restore... anyone having issues with this "new and improved" backup experience?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

There is an additional option you might want to look into.

Using VHDMount.

http://blogs.msdn.com/permanenttan/a...re-part-2.aspx




"Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
news4104AC5-86FB-4E47-BAF9-51E416FF68A3@microsoft.com...
> ive always used ghost... but v9 doesnt run on vista. i need the capability of taking an image
> based backup, but then being able to "browse" the image and selectively restore files from
> it.... why MS didnt include this capability ill never understand
>
> ill try ghost10 and see if it works for vista yet
>
>
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:ea8QlrIQHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Troy,
>>
>> If you want to save yourself some aggravation and use
>> a better product, I suggest Acronis True Image 10. It does
>> more than just make images. It is an excellent file backup
>> program... it is what you are wanting. I'm sure they have
>> a trial download. Test it and see. You'll like and it will be some
>> of the best money you have ever spent on software.
>> Without a doubt.
>>
>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>> news:502B1BE6-ED44-493E-AB15-2A67CD912E5B@microsoft.com...
>>> ok so if you choose "backup files" there is no way to specify what files to backup... only
>>> what file types (ridiculous)
>>> then it creates a bunch of zip files in the destination... the restore process does let you
>>> pick individual files to restore... which makes it even stranger that you cant specify
>>> individual files to backup! this needs work!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>>> news:41D57607-4B32-46E8-893E-76BCB6009A4A@microsoft.com...
>>>> very frustrated...
>>>>
>>>> MS says this:
>>>>
>>>> Of course, backup is only as useful as the recovery experience, which has been expanded in
>>>> scope and usefulness in Windows Vista. A wizard helps you select the files or folders to
>>>> restore and prompts you for restore media. Then it restores the files you select.
>>>>
>>>> thats just not accurate! i just did a backup, which happens as an image, not a file-level
>>>> backup. then as a test i tried clicking "restore files" and was told there are no backups
>>>> to restore... anyone having issues with this "new and improved" backup experience?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

very cool. i wasnt aware of that....



"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:%23v%23vlkJQHHA.780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> There is an additional option you might want to look into.
>
> Using VHDMount.
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/permanenttan/a...re-part-2.aspx
>
>
>
>
> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
> news4104AC5-86FB-4E47-BAF9-51E416FF68A3@microsoft.com...
>> ive always used ghost... but v9 doesnt run on vista. i need the
>> capability of taking an image based backup, but then being able to
>> "browse" the image and selectively restore files from it.... why MS didnt
>> include this capability ill never understand
>>
>> ill try ghost10 and see if it works for vista yet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:ea8QlrIQHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Troy,
>>>
>>> If you want to save yourself some aggravation and use
>>> a better product, I suggest Acronis True Image 10. It does
>>> more than just make images. It is an excellent file backup
>>> program... it is what you are wanting. I'm sure they have
>>> a trial download. Test it and see. You'll like and it will be some
>>> of the best money you have ever spent on software.
>>> Without a doubt.
>>>
>>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>>> news:502B1BE6-ED44-493E-AB15-2A67CD912E5B@microsoft.com...
>>>> ok so if you choose "backup files" there is no way to specify what
>>>> files to backup... only what file types (ridiculous)
>>>> then it creates a bunch of zip files in the destination... the restore
>>>> process does let you pick individual files to restore... which makes it
>>>> even stranger that you cant specify individual files to backup! this
>>>> needs work!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:41D57607-4B32-46E8-893E-76BCB6009A4A@microsoft.com...
>>>>> very frustrated...
>>>>>
>>>>> MS says this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, backup is only as useful as the recovery experience, which
>>>>> has been expanded in scope and usefulness in Windows Vista. A wizard
>>>>> helps you select the files or folders to restore and prompts you for
>>>>> restore media. Then it restores the files you select.
>>>>>
>>>>> thats just not accurate! i just did a backup, which happens as an
>>>>> image, not a file-level backup. then as a test i tried clicking
>>>>> "restore files" and was told there are no backups to restore... anyone
>>>>> having issues with this "new and improved" backup experience?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Troy,

Everyone says "Microsoft should include this or that" and then, if Microsoft
does, they get the pants sued off of them.

They have to be very careful to leave "room for improvement" in any new
functionality that they include in the operating system. Therefore, any new
module will be useful, but not as much so as a third party program.

Just get TrueImage HOME 10.0 at $49.00

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
news4104AC5-86FB-4E47-BAF9-51E416FF68A3@microsoft.com...
> ive always used ghost... but v9 doesnt run on vista. i need the capability
> of taking an image based backup, but then being able to "browse" the image
> and selectively restore files from it.... why MS didnt include this
> capability ill never understand
>
> ill try ghost10 and see if it works for vista yet
>
>
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:ea8QlrIQHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Troy,
>>
>> If you want to save yourself some aggravation and use
>> a better product, I suggest Acronis True Image 10. It does
>> more than just make images. It is an excellent file backup
>> program... it is what you are wanting. I'm sure they have
>> a trial download. Test it and see. You'll like and it will be some
>> of the best money you have ever spent on software.
>> Without a doubt.
>>
>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>> news:502B1BE6-ED44-493E-AB15-2A67CD912E5B@microsoft.com...
>>> ok so if you choose "backup files" there is no way to specify what files
>>> to backup... only what file types (ridiculous)
>>> then it creates a bunch of zip files in the destination... the restore
>>> process does let you pick individual files to restore... which makes it
>>> even stranger that you cant specify individual files to backup! this
>>> needs work!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>>> news:41D57607-4B32-46E8-893E-76BCB6009A4A@microsoft.com...
>>>> very frustrated...
>>>>
>>>> MS says this:
>>>>
>>>> Of course, backup is only as useful as the recovery experience, which
>>>> has been expanded in scope and usefulness in Windows Vista. A wizard
>>>> helps you select the files or folders to restore and prompts you for
>>>> restore media. Then it restores the files you select.
>>>>
>>>> thats just not accurate! i just did a backup, which happens as an
>>>> image, not a file-level backup. then as a test i tried clicking
>>>> "restore files" and was told there are no backups to restore... anyone
>>>> having issues with this "new and improved" backup experience?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

I'd be interested in your opinion on how well this works.
If I have time over the weekend, I'll try it, too.

Take care,

Michael

"Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
news:E8EE217A-D360-4F30-BA0A-E2634A031197@microsoft.com...
> very cool. i wasnt aware of that....
>
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:%23v%23vlkJQHHA.780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> There is an additional option you might want to look into.
>>
>> Using VHDMount.
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/permanenttan/a...re-part-2.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>> news4104AC5-86FB-4E47-BAF9-51E416FF68A3@microsoft.com...
>>> ive always used ghost... but v9 doesnt run on vista. i need the capability of taking an
>>> image based backup, but then being able to "browse" the image and selectively restore files
>>> from it.... why MS didnt include this capability ill never understand
>>>
>>> ill try ghost10 and see if it works for vista yet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ea8QlrIQHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Troy,
>>>>
>>>> If you want to save yourself some aggravation and use
>>>> a better product, I suggest Acronis True Image 10. It does
>>>> more than just make images. It is an excellent file backup
>>>> program... it is what you are wanting. I'm sure they have
>>>> a trial download. Test it and see. You'll like and it will be some
>>>> of the best money you have ever spent on software.
>>>> Without a doubt.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:502B1BE6-ED44-493E-AB15-2A67CD912E5B@microsoft.com...
>>>>> ok so if you choose "backup files" there is no way to specify what files to backup...
>>>>> only what file types (ridiculous)
>>>>> then it creates a bunch of zip files in the destination... the restore process does let
>>>>> you pick individual files to restore... which makes it even stranger that you cant
>>>>> specify individual files to backup! this needs work!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Troy McClure" <k@k.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:41D57607-4B32-46E8-893E-76BCB6009A4A@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> very frustrated...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MS says this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, backup is only as useful as the recovery experience, which has been expanded
>>>>>> in scope and usefulness in Windows Vista. A wizard helps you select the files or folders
>>>>>> to restore and prompts you for restore media. Then it restores the files you select.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thats just not accurate! i just did a backup, which happens as an image, not a
>>>>>> file-level backup. then as a test i tried clicking "restore files" and was told there
>>>>>> are no backups to restore... anyone having issues with this "new and improved" backup
>>>>>> experience?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Symentec's public BETA of "Symantec 360" includes what is now called
Backup & Restore aka GHOST ......