Power Toys

"James Colbert" <jcolbert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
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>> To beta test and be safe you need a separate computer. Something I do not
>> have! As I use my computer for work ,although tempted, I have held back
>> from beta testing.
>
> The fact that you have only one computer is not necessarily a hindrance to
> beta testing. A dual boot will serve you well under these circumstances,
> along with an imaging program suich as Acronis True Image.

Virtualization is another option when you don't need to test for
compatibility with specific hardware.

--
Alexander Suhovey

"Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "James Colbert" <jcolbert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23IHIoDYPHHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23ucoG5VPHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> To beta test and be safe you need a separate computer. Something I do
>>> not have! As I use my computer for work ,although tempted, I have held
>>> back from beta testing.
>>
>> The fact that you have only one computer is not necessarily a hindrance
>> to beta testing. A dual boot will serve you well under these
>> circumstances, along with an imaging program suich as Acronis True Image.
>
> Virtualization is another option when you don't need to test for
> compatibility with specific hardware.

Indeed it is. The only VM software I've ever tried is MS's VPC, which was a
bit sluggish. My understanding, however, is that programs such as VMware
offer much better performance.


James



>
> --
> Alexander Suhovey

"James Colbert" <jcolbert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> "Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> "James Colbert" <jcolbert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> To beta test and be safe you need a separate computer. Something I do
>>>> not have! As I use my computer for work ,although tempted, I have held
>>>> back from beta testing.
>>>
>>> The fact that you have only one computer is not necessarily a hindrance
>>> to beta testing. A dual boot will serve you well under these
>>> circumstances, along with an imaging program suich as Acronis True
>>> Image.
>>
>> Virtualization is another option when you don't need to test for
>> compatibility with specific hardware.
>
> Indeed it is. The only VM software I've ever tried is MS's VPC, which was
> a bit sluggish. My understanding, however, is that programs such as VMware
> offer much better performance.

Well, I cannot comment on VMWare vs. VPC performance since I didn't use
VMWare several years and I'm long time happy VPC user. AFAIK VMWare provides
more advanced management functions like multiple snapshots but for me these
are not a major selling point. Virtual PC and Virtual Server on the other
hand are free.

--
Alexander Suhovey

Oh, and last time I checked VMWare wasn't LUA-compliant. For me as LUA freak
it is a major bug.

--
Alexander Suhovey

It is an excellent option. The Longhorn Server beta testers are given lots
of information and encouragement by the Longhorn team on how to go about it.

"Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "James Colbert" <jcolbert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23IHIoDYPHHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23ucoG5VPHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> To beta test and be safe you need a separate computer. Something I do
>>> not have! As I use my computer for work ,although tempted, I have held
>>> back from beta testing.
>>
>> The fact that you have only one computer is not necessarily a hindrance
>> to beta testing. A dual boot will serve you well under these
>> circumstances, along with an imaging program suich as Acronis True Image.
>
> Virtualization is another option when you don't need to test for
> compatibility with specific hardware.
>
> --
> Alexander Suhovey

That is not my experience.

"James Colbert" <jcolbert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Indeed it is. The only VM software I've ever tried is MS's VPC, which was
> a bit sluggish. My understanding, however, is that programs such as VMware
> offer much better performance.
>
>
> James
>

Well... it is from Microsoft PowerToys for Windows XP
(http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...owertoys.mspx).
There is "Power Calculator - With this PowerToy you can graph and evaluate
functions as well as perform many different types of conversions." TweakUI
is another powertoy, but I guess this means yes to your question. ;-)

Jan


"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Is that the Powercalc from 'Tweakui for XP'?
>
>
> "Jan Kucera" <miloush@community.nospam> wrote in message
> news:856850B9-E20F-4135-8415-7E6B68E858F0@microsoft.com...
>> Why is the PowerCalc incompatible with Vista?
>> How can I get it running?
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%232KJLeOPHHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>
>>> Not that I'm aware of at this time.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>
>>> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ut$ugPOPHHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> Are there plans for updated Power Toys?
>>>>
>>>> Comment on Windows XP Tweak Ui " This program might have minor
>>>> compatibility issues after upgrading to Windows Vista".
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute.
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

They are 'XP' powertoys, not Vista powertoys..


"Jan Kucera" <miloush@community.nospam> wrote in message
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> Well... it is from Microsoft PowerToys for Windows XP
> (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...owertoys.mspx).
> There is "Power Calculator - With this PowerToy you can graph and evaluate
> functions as well as perform many different types of conversions." TweakUI
> is another powertoy, but I guess this means yes to your question. ;-)
>
> Jan
>
>
> "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in
> message news:eqmQEQVPHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Is that the Powercalc from 'Tweakui for XP'?
>>
>>
>> "Jan Kucera" <miloush@community.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:856850B9-E20F-4135-8415-7E6B68E858F0@microsoft.com...
>>> Why is the PowerCalc incompatible with Vista?
>>> How can I get it running?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%232KJLeOPHHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>>
>>>> Not that I'm aware of at this time.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>>
>>>> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ut$ugPOPHHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there plans for updated Power Toys?
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment on Windows XP Tweak Ui " This program might have minor
>>>>> compatibility issues after upgrading to Windows Vista".
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~
>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute.
>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

I understand this, and I understand that some XP related stuff can't work on
Vista. But I am not allowed to run calculator...even unsupported... why this
limitation?

Well...I see there is no solution other than wait to PowerToys for Vista...
;-)
Thanks for reply.

"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> They are 'XP' powertoys, not Vista powertoys..
>
>
> "Jan Kucera" <miloush@community.nospam> wrote in message
> newsBC2C456-E175-4DA4-AAA7-6607DF1A79C2@microsoft.com...
>> Well... it is from Microsoft PowerToys for Windows XP
>> (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...owertoys.mspx).
>> There is "Power Calculator - With this PowerToy you can graph and
>> evaluate functions as well as perform many different types of
>> conversions." TweakUI is another powertoy, but I guess this means yes to
>> your question. ;-)
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in
>> message news:eqmQEQVPHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Is that the Powercalc from 'Tweakui for XP'?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jan Kucera" <miloush@community.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:856850B9-E20F-4135-8415-7E6B68E858F0@microsoft.com...
>>>> Why is the PowerCalc incompatible with Vista?
>>>> How can I get it running?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:%232KJLeOPHHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that I'm aware of at this time.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ut$ugPOPHHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there plans for updated Power Toys?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comment on Windows XP Tweak Ui " This program might have minor
>>>>>> compatibility issues after upgrading to Windows Vista".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute.
>>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Ok, back to the powertoy ....

Since Vista does not support the application, I tried to remove it using the
installer and it says you must have Windows XP in order to run the installer.
So how do I get it to run the uninstaller? Is there a KB article that shows
how to clean it out without running the uninstall program?

"James Colbert" wrote:

>
> "Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:A07A71DD-FF66-4D28-9BB4-87304B016351@microsoft.com...
> > "James Colbert" <jcolbert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23IHIoDYPHHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23ucoG5VPHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>> To beta test and be safe you need a separate computer. Something I do
> >>> not have! As I use my computer for work ,although tempted, I have held
> >>> back from beta testing.
> >>
> >> The fact that you have only one computer is not necessarily a hindrance
> >> to beta testing. A dual boot will serve you well under these
> >> circumstances, along with an imaging program suich as Acronis True Image.
> >
> > Virtualization is another option when you don't need to test for
> > compatibility with specific hardware.
>
> Indeed it is. The only VM software I've ever tried is MS's VPC, which was a
> bit sluggish. My understanding, however, is that programs such as VMware
> offer much better performance.
>
>
> James
>
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Alexander Suhovey
>
>