Defender is disabled

The last few times I've started Vista, Windows defender shows up with the
warning that it is disabled. I turn it on and the next time it comes back up
as disabled. Did I miss something here? I looked at other threads but
didn't find this issue, although I might have missed something!
--
always learning

Iplant,

By chance do have a third party a/v and/or anti-spyware application
installed on top of Vista Beta?

If so, likely that is the source for the conflict; Defender disabled...

A much smoother functionality of "current" Vista Beta Versions is achieved
by not confusing Vista's OS; by not including those third party applications
one has used for too many years.

Is it possible for running Vista Certified third party applications, yes. Do
they commonly create conflicts for Vista Beta, yes.
--
Life is Wonderful while using Vista !

Posting & Painting
"Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
exposing them to the critic."

Ambrose Bierce
***************



"Iplant" wrote:

> The last few times I've started Vista, Windows defender shows up with the
> warning that it is disabled. I turn it on and the next time it comes back up
> as disabled. Did I miss something here? I looked at other threads but
> didn't find this issue, although I might have missed something!
> --
> always learning

Iplant wrote:
> The last few times I've started Vista, Windows defender shows up with the
> warning that it is disabled. I turn it on and the next time it comes back up
> as disabled. Did I miss something here? I looked at other threads but
> didn't find this issue, although I might have missed something!

sounds like a malware infection. I had the same thing in xp when
infected with a variant of smitfraud (comes in spysheriff and other crap
free software)

Tom

I haven't installed anything except Windows One Care.
--
always learning


"Vista Ready" wrote:

> Iplant,
>
> By chance do have a third party a/v and/or anti-spyware application
> installed on top of Vista Beta?
>
> If so, likely that is the source for the conflict; Defender disabled...
>
> A much smoother functionality of "current" Vista Beta Versions is achieved
> by not confusing Vista's OS; by not including those third party applications
> one has used for too many years.
>
> Is it possible for running Vista Certified third party applications, yes. Do
> they commonly create conflicts for Vista Beta, yes.
> --
> Life is Wonderful while using Vista !
>
> Posting & Painting
> "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
> exposing them to the critic."
>
> Ambrose Bierce
> ***************
>
>
>
> "Iplant" wrote:
>
> > The last few times I've started Vista, Windows defender shows up with the
> > warning that it is disabled. I turn it on and the next time it comes back up
> > as disabled. Did I miss something here? I looked at other threads but
> > didn't find this issue, although I might have missed something!
> > --
> > always learning

I'll check, but except for ATI and a recent update for the Creative driver, I
only have micrsoft products installed on Vista.

--
always learning


"Nicole & Tom" wrote:

> Iplant wrote:
> > The last few times I've started Vista, Windows defender shows up with the
> > warning that it is disabled. I turn it on and the next time it comes back up
> > as disabled. Did I miss something here? I looked at other threads but
> > didn't find this issue, although I might have missed something!
>
> sounds like a malware infection. I had the same thing in xp when
> infected with a variant of smitfraud (comes in spysheriff and other crap
> free software)
>
> Tom
>

Any chance you installed Windows Live One Care? It disables the Windows
Defender service in Vista.

"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> The last few times I've started Vista, Windows defender shows up with the
> warning that it is disabled. I turn it on and the next time it comes back
> up
> as disabled. Did I miss something here? I looked at other threads but
> didn't find this issue, although I might have missed something!
> --
> always learning

Which version of OneCare? You need the beta (1.5) for Vista. If you're
using some flavor of 1.1, I think the 1.5 beta is still available at:

http://ideas.live.com/ProgramPage.as...207d94d45.Also, OneCare WILL turn off Defender anyway because it uses its own version.However, you shouldn't be seeing that notice. You should just see a greenOneCare icon.If you still need them, the Windows Live OneCare Forums are at this URL:http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsOneCare/default.aspx?ForumGroupID=28&SiteID=2"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messagenews:C99A0701-E842-4B24-B618-F9AA7178492A@microsoft.com...>I haven't installed anything except Windows One Care.> --> always learning>>> "Vista Ready" wrote:>>> Iplant,>>>> By chance do have a third party a/v and/or anti-spyware application>> installed on top of Vista Beta?>>>> If so, likely that is the source for the conflict; Defender disabled...>>>> A much smoother functionality of "current" Vista Beta Versions isachieved>> by not confusing Vista's OS; by not including those third partyapplications>> one has used for too many years.>>>> Is it possible for running Vista Certified third party applications, yes.Do>> they commonly create conflicts for Vista Beta, yes.>> -->> Life is Wonderful while using Vista !>>>> Posting & Painting>> "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and>> exposing them to the critic.">>>> Ambrose Bierce>> ***************>>>>>>>> "Iplant" wrote:>>>> > The last few times I've started Vista, Windows defender shows up withthe>> > warning that it is disabled. I turn it on and the next time it comesback up>> > as disabled. Did I miss something here? I looked at other threads but>> > didn't find this issue, although I might have missed something!>> > -->> > always learning

Hi David,

I do have version 1.5 of WOC installed. Strange thing though, last night I
opened Vista and the warning about Defender came on as it has been doing.
However I left it disabled and just now when opening Vista, it didn't show
up. My WOC icon has been working from day 1. Maybe I'll just see what
happens next!

---always learning


"David A. Lessnau" wrote:

> Which version of OneCare? You need the beta (1.5) for Vista. If you're
> using some flavor of 1.1, I think the 1.5 beta is still available at:
>
> http://ideas.live.com/ProgramPage.as...207d94d45.Also, OneCare WILL turn off Defender anyway because it uses its own version.However, you shouldn't be seeing that notice. You should just see a greenOneCare icon.If you still need them, the Windows Live OneCare Forums are at this URL:http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsOneCare/default.aspx?ForumGroupID=28&SiteID=2"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messagenews:C99A0701-E842-4B24-B618-F9AA7178492A@microsoft.com...>I haven't installed anything except Windows One Care.> --> always learning>>> "Vista Ready" wrote:>>> Iplant,>>>> By chance do have a third party a/v and/or anti-spyware application>> installed on top of Vista Beta?>>>> If so, likely that is the source for the conflict; Defender disabled...>>>> A much smoother functionality of "current" Vista Beta Versions isachieved>> by not confusing Vista's OS; by not including those third partyapplications>> one has used for too
many years.>>>> Is it possible for running Vista Certified third party applications, yes.Do>> they commonly create conflicts for Vista Beta, yes.>> -->> Life is Wonderful while using Vista !>>>> Posting & Painting>> "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and>> exposing them to the critic.">>>> Ambrose Bierce>> ***************>>>>>>>> "Iplant" wrote:>>>> > The last few times I've started Vista, Windows defender shows up withthe>> > warning that it is disabled. I turn it on and the next time it comesback up>> > as disabled. Did I miss something here? I looked at other threads but>> > didn't find this issue, although I might have missed something!>> > -->> > always learning

"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I haven't installed anything except Windows One Care.


I assume you mean the OneCare v1.5 beta, which can run on Vista. It
disables and replaces the function of Defender. But as it is a beta, there
are some rough edges, including showing that there is something worng in
Defender not running in Security Centre. I think OneCare is rubbish anyway.

ss.

"Vista Ready" <VistaReady@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> A much smoother functionality of "current" Vista Beta Versions is achieved
> by not confusing Vista's OS; by not including those third party
> applications
> one has used for too many years.
>
> Is it possible for running Vista Certified third party applications, yes.
> Do
> they commonly create conflicts for Vista Beta, yes.


Is the irony lost on you? The problem is being caused my a Genuine
Microsoft application that has been Certified for Vista.

ss.