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One great advantage of Windows Mail over Outlook Express (unless I've overlooked something)

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Old 04-20-2007
Julian
 

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One great advantage of Windows Mail over Outlook Express (unless I've overlooked something)
On the face of it, when reading newsgroups...

If a post has been cross posted to several of ones subscribed groups
reading a post in one group results in it being marked read in all group.

There was nothing more tedious than reading the same post
time and time again in related groups.


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Old 04-20-2007
Tom Porterfield
 

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Re: One great advantage of Windows Mail over Outlook Express (unlessI've overlooked something)
Julian wrote:
> On the face of it, when reading newsgroups...
>
> If a post has been cross posted to several of ones subscribed groups
> reading a post in one group results in it being marked read in all group.
>
> There was nothing more tedious than reading the same post
> time and time again in related groups.


Outlook Express would do the same thing. When/if it works depends on
how the message is cross posted. If the sender posts a single message
by putting multiple newsgroups in the newsgroup field then Windows Mail,
OE and other newsreaders can properly mark the message read across all
groups after you have seen it for the first time. That is the proper
way to cross post. But some folks instead send the exact same message
to multiple groups, one group at a time. If they do that, then
newsreader software will not mark it as read in the other groups, since
it isn't really the same message from a newsreader standpoint.
--
Tom Porterfield
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http://support.teloep.org

Please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup only.
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Old 04-20-2007
Antonio Amengual
 

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Re: One great advantage of Windows Mail over Outlook Express (unless I've overlooked something)
"Julian" <Julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6FE8D1CD-A0BF-45EE-935E-FC2A7A91F345@microsoft.com...
> On the face of it, when reading newsgroups...
>
> If a post has been cross posted to several of ones subscribed groups
> reading a post in one group results in it being marked read in all group.
>
> There was nothing more tedious than reading the same post
> time and time again in related groups.



this is the standard behavior for WM and OE under prior to Vista OSs
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Saludos

Antonio

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Old 04-20-2007
Julian
 

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Re: One great advantage of Windows Mail over Outlook Express (unless I've overlooked something)
"Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Julian wrote:
>> On the face of it, when reading newsgroups...
>>
>> If a post has been cross posted to several of ones subscribed groups
>> reading a post in one group results in it being marked read in all group.
>>
>> There was nothing more tedious than reading the same post
>> time and time again in related groups.

>
> Outlook Express would do the same thing. When/if it works depends on how
> the message is cross posted. If the sender posts a single message by
> putting multiple newsgroups in the newsgroup field then Windows Mail, OE
> and other newsreaders can properly mark the message read across all groups
> after you have seen it for the first time. That is the proper way to
> cross post. But some folks instead send the exact same message to
> multiple groups, one group at a time. If they do that, then newsreader
> software will not mark it as read in the other groups, since it isn't
> really the same message from a newsreader standpoint.


Cheers.

I must have had something set up wrong then because for years
posts properly cross posted to my groups were definitely not
marked read by reading on just one group.

Mind you, I have just started using a new newsserver, new.btinternet.com,
simultaneously with using Windows mail. Perhaps the difference is the
newsserver?

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Old 04-20-2007
Justin
 

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Re: One great advantage of Windows Mail over Outlook Express (unless I've overlooked something)
"Julian" <Julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:701390E4-03FC-4B64-AE3B-8F40C82A8CD6@microsoft.com...
> "Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eL5gHfzgHHA.4444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Julian wrote:
>>> On the face of it, when reading newsgroups...
>>>
>>> If a post has been cross posted to several of ones subscribed groups
>>> reading a post in one group results in it being marked read in all
>>> group.
>>>
>>> There was nothing more tedious than reading the same post
>>> time and time again in related groups.

>>
>> Outlook Express would do the same thing. When/if it works depends on how
>> the message is cross posted. If the sender posts a single message by
>> putting multiple newsgroups in the newsgroup field then Windows Mail, OE
>> and other newsreaders can properly mark the message read across all
>> groups after you have seen it for the first time. That is the proper way
>> to cross post. But some folks instead send the exact same message to
>> multiple groups, one group at a time. If they do that, then newsreader
>> software will not mark it as read in the other groups, since it isn't
>> really the same message from a newsreader standpoint.

>
> Cheers.
>
> I must have had something set up wrong then because for years
> posts properly cross posted to my groups were definitely not
> marked read by reading on just one group.
>
> Mind you, I have just started using a new newsserver, new.btinternet.com,
> simultaneously with using Windows mail. Perhaps the difference is the
> newsserver?


I agree, I've never seen this functionality in OE. However, this is a very
good feature in WM as well as WLMd.

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Old 04-20-2007
Gary VanderMolen
 

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Re: One great advantage of Windows Mail over Outlook Express (unless I've overlooked something)
"Antonio Amengual" <amengual.mamerra@micono.com> wrote in message news:B8CDF5FD-3E2E-43ED-B7C9-77C733405571@microsoft.com...
> "Julian" <Julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote in message news:6FE8D1CD-A0BF-45EE-935E-FC2A7A91F345@microsoft.com...
>> On the face of it, when reading newsgroups...
>>
>> If a post has been cross posted to several of ones subscribed groups
>> reading a post in one group results in it being marked read in all group.
>>
>> There was nothing more tedious than reading the same post
>> time and time again in related groups.

>
>
> this is the standard behavior for WM and OE under prior to Vista OSs


Strange. My Outlook Express has properly handled crossposts for
many years already.
--
Gary VanderMolen


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Old 04-21-2007
Julian
 

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Re: One great advantage of Windows Mail over Outlook Express (unless I've overlooked something)
"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Antonio Amengual" <amengual.mamerra@micono.com> wrote in message
> news:B8CDF5FD-3E2E-43ED-B7C9-77C733405571@microsoft.com...
>> "Julian" <Julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6FE8D1CD-A0BF-45EE-935E-FC2A7A91F345@microsoft.com...
>>> On the face of it, when reading newsgroups...
>>>
>>> If a post has been cross posted to several of ones subscribed groups
>>> reading a post in one group results in it being marked read in all
>>> group.
>>>
>>> There was nothing more tedious than reading the same post
>>> time and time again in related groups.

>>
>>
>> this is the standard behavior for WM and OE under prior to Vista OSs

>
> Strange. My Outlook Express has properly handled crossposts for
> many years already.


This one change in functionality, however it came about, has made a huge
difference to my "working" day. I regularly keep up to date with a bunch
of 5 groups concerning a particular topic. On these around 80% of the posts
are crossposted across a subset or all groups. It is a real joy to come
across a crosspost only once and not miss (due to clutter)those posted
exclusively and, conservatively, I am saved an hour a day.

I don't recall, ever, any one change to functionality that has had such
a substantial effect on my computing experience.

Whether it be a change to WM, my new newsserver, or my finally using the
stuff properly... I'm delighted.

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