Mystery file eating by system partition

unfortunately, I am not
sure of any program
that prints your startups.

but it doesn't mean that
there isn't any.

perhaps, this is a problem
with your system,

in that you may have too
many things loading up,
bogging down your system
and you don't know which
ones are doing what.

for many of us, we have
less than a dozen start
ups.

perhaps, you might want
to jot down the names of
those services and startups
that are enabled only.

even though you will disabled
them,

they will continue to appear
in the start up and services
tab but unchecked/disabled.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen

>
>

"Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message news:OUcA0sc9JHA.4944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "db" <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message news:BB7148F6-FB40-4941-8BBB-F89DE46D0F0C@microsoft.com...
> <snip>
>> next, initiate a clean boot
>> by clicking on start>msconfig.
>>
>> go to startup tab and disable
>> all your startups.
>>
>> you might want to jot down
>> what they are.
>>
>> next go to services tab and
>> "hide" all microsoft services.
>>
>> then disable what remains
>> on the list.
>>
>> jot these down too.
>>
>> then reboot the machine.
>>
>> if that file no longer appears
>> in your c:\temp folder and
>> or your disk maintains
>> free space,
>>
>> then something you disabled
>> from msconfig likely attributed
>> to the problem.
>>
>> you will have to figure out which
>> program is the problem and
>> also consider which startup and
>> services you disable should be
>> re-enabled.
>
> Lots of stuff to jot down, and get wrong. Is there any command line tool that will list all this jotted stuff so it can be
> redirected to a file. Or, can VBScript access this info directly or through some COM object? Or, is the info available in the
> registry, and if so, where?
>
> Thanks,
> -Paul Randall
>

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:19:29 -0400, "RalfG" <itsnotme@ladeda.deda>
wrote:

>Vista SP3? Could be part of the problem. It's not real.
>
>http://www.vistax64.com/windows-upda...-pack-3-a.html

My mistake it is SP2.
>
>Also mentioned here:
>
>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1031116
>
>At least one suspected cause is installing an SP2 beta version. Needs to be
>uninstalled in order to install the released version of SP2.

Installed Vista SP2 from Windows Update.
>
>There's no such temp file in my Vista HE so I've no real clue as to what
>program is creating it. Very few references to "mnc" but one app that I
>found using those letters as a file extension is My Notes Center. It
>apparently creates an open-ended data base file with .mnc extension. If the
>app is installed, speculating that mnc82DB.tmp could be one of its temp
>files? In any case, you could try deleting the mnc82DB.tmp file and then
>try opening the smaller recreated version in a text editor to look for any
>entries within the file that might identify the culprit program.

I don't have that installed. I have deleted the mnc82DB.tmp file and
it isn't back yet. When it does reappear, it shows up as almost 50GB.
I suspect it would be big enough to fill my C: partition no matter how
much space was there.

>
>"Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> wrote in message
>news:5gd645ld2tud10h70e58628sin30i32nq5@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:05:45 -0700, "Spirit" <noone@localhost> wrote:
>>
>>>Look in Task Manager for something suspicious.
>>>
>>>There are viruses that write huge files to consume space.
>>>Scan your computer with several online virus programs.
>>>
>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...anners+&aqi=g2
>>
>> Already used several of these and they found nothing. If it were a
>> virus, I assume some of these would have the signature since it's been
>> around several weeks.
>>>
>>>"Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> wrote in message
>>>news:fqs545t8fed29opnd34n0q1uall2onqv1s@4ax.com ...
>>>> Severl weeks ago, I got a warning that there was no more space on C:,
>>>> my system partition. Properties showed 0 free space. I tracked down
>>>> the problem to a file named mnc82DB.tmp, which was about 50GB. It was
>>>> in the folder users\owner\appdata\local\temp. I have no idea where it
>>>> came from and Google has no entries if I search on that file name.
>>>> Trying to delete it fails, saying that it is open in another program.
>>>> Rebooting and then deleting it fixes it....
>>>>
>>>> ...Temporarily. Today it came back. Same issues. It's very annoying
>>>> sice if I try to print something I will lose if I reboot, it won't do
>>>> it (0 free space). Another weirdness is that if I try to type
>>>> something into the Firefox Goggle engine, the letters are entered in
>>>> reverse order.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any idea what in the world this is? The OS is Vista
>>>> Business x64 SP3.
>
>

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:45:04 -0500, "db" <databaseben at hotmail dot
com> wrote:

>could be music downloads.
>
>try deleting it again.
>
>then change your temp
>environments to help manage
>the temp files and folders.
>
>first created c:\temp
>
>then change your current tmp
>and temp files location to the
>c:\temp
>
>click on controlpanel>system>
>advance>environment variables
>
>modify both user and system
>temps.
>
>also, might as well change
>your current internet temp
>folder to the c:\temp directory
>too.
>
>then hold off on rebooting.
>
>next, initiate a clean boot
>by clicking on start>msconfig.
>
>go to startup tab and disable
>all your startups.
>
>you might want to jot down
>what they are.
>
>next go to services tab and
>"hide" all microsoft services.
>
>then disable what remains
>on the list.
>
>jot these down too.
>
>then reboot the machine.
>
>if that file no longer appears
>in your c:\temp folder and
>or your disk maintains
>free space,
>
>then something you disabled
>from msconfig likely attributed
>to the problem.
>
>you will have to figure out which
>program is the problem and
>also consider which startup and
>services you disable should be
>re-enabled.

Thanks. I will try to use the methods proposed here and in the other
responces, but what makes it difficult is that the file only shows up
after three or four weeks after I delete it. Its coming back is
unpredictable.

yes, it is a problem.

but I am confident that
with a little patience and
observation,

you will find the culprit
that is causing it.

if you move all your
temps to one location,

you can then create a
desktop shortcut to
the temp file for easy
access and monitoring.
--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen

>
>

"Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> wrote in message news:444a45509rvk22kblkk9be4juvp39n8nko@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:45:04 -0500, "db" <databaseben at hotmail dot
> com> wrote:
>
>>could be music downloads.
>>
>>try deleting it again.
>>
>>then change your temp
>>environments to help manage
>>the temp files and folders.
>>
>>first created c:\temp
>>
>>then change your current tmp
>>and temp files location to the
>>c:\temp
>>
>>click on controlpanel>system>
>>advance>environment variables
>>
>>modify both user and system
>>temps.
>>
>>also, might as well change
>>your current internet temp
>>folder to the c:\temp directory
>>too.
>>
>>then hold off on rebooting.
>>
>>next, initiate a clean boot
>>by clicking on start>msconfig.
>>
>>go to startup tab and disable
>>all your startups.
>>
>>you might want to jot down
>>what they are.
>>
>>next go to services tab and
>>"hide" all microsoft services.
>>
>>then disable what remains
>>on the list.
>>
>>jot these down too.
>>
>>then reboot the machine.
>>
>>if that file no longer appears
>>in your c:\temp folder and
>>or your disk maintains
>>free space,
>>
>>then something you disabled
>>from msconfig likely attributed
>>to the problem.
>>
>>you will have to figure out which
>>program is the problem and
>>also consider which startup and
>>services you disable should be
>>re-enabled.
>
> Thanks. I will try to use the methods proposed here and in the other
> responces, but what makes it difficult is that the file only shows up
> after three or four weeks after I delete it. Its coming back is
> unpredictable.

"Autoruns" from sysinternals.com

Newer versions use "Export as" for a list in a plain text file.

"db" <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:CE442843-B370-449C-AC9C-79341189D641@microsoft.com...
> unfortunately, I am not
> sure of any program
> that prints your startups.
>
> but it doesn't mean that
> there isn't any.
>
> perhaps, this is a problem
> with your system,
>
> in that you may have too
> many things loading up,
> bogging down your system
> and you don't know which
> ones are doing what.
>
> for many of us, we have
> less than a dozen start
> ups.
>
> perhaps, you might want
> to jot down the names of
> those services and startups
> that are enabled only.
>
> even though you will disabled
> them,
>
> they will continue to appear
> in the start up and services
> tab but unchecked/disabled.
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
> - Microsoft Partner
> - @hotmail.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen
>
>>
>>
>
> "Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:OUcA0sc9JHA.4944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "db" <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
>> news:BB7148F6-FB40-4941-8BBB-F89DE46D0F0C@microsoft.com...
>> <snip>
>>> next, initiate a clean boot
>>> by clicking on start>msconfig.
>>>
>>> go to startup tab and disable
>>> all your startups.
>>>
>>> you might want to jot down
>>> what they are.
>>>
>>> next go to services tab and
>>> "hide" all microsoft services.
>>>
>>> then disable what remains
>>> on the list.
>>>
>>> jot these down too.
>>>
>>> then reboot the machine.
>>>
>>> if that file no longer appears
>>> in your c:\temp folder and
>>> or your disk maintains
>>> free space,
>>>
>>> then something you disabled
>>> from msconfig likely attributed
>>> to the problem.
>>>
>>> you will have to figure out which
>>> program is the problem and
>>> also consider which startup and
>>> services you disable should be
>>> re-enabled.
>>
>> Lots of stuff to jot down, and get wrong. Is there any command line tool
>> that will list all this jotted stuff so it can be redirected to a file.
>> Or, can VBScript access this info directly or through some COM object?
>> Or, is the info available in the registry, and if so, where?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Paul Randall
>>

Did you ever set up or install an auto-backup program? Either Windows or
some app that came with an external harddrive? Grasping at straws here but
possibly some app could be running in the background creating a backup set
and then not finding the backup media it expects to write to it exits
without deleting the temporary file(s)?


"Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> wrote in message
news:gm3a45h03o34g5k2s0pnhbat2bpoplfer4@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:19:29 -0400, "RalfG" <itsnotme@ladeda.deda>
> wrote:
>
>>Vista SP3? Could be part of the problem. It's not real.
>>
>>http://www.vistax64.com/windows-upda...-pack-3-a.html
>
> My mistake it is SP2.
>>
>>Also mentioned here:
>>
>>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1031116
>>
>>At least one suspected cause is installing an SP2 beta version. Needs to
>>be
>>uninstalled in order to install the released version of SP2.
>
> Installed Vista SP2 from Windows Update.
>>
>>There's no such temp file in my Vista HE so I've no real clue as to what
>>program is creating it. Very few references to "mnc" but one app that I
>>found using those letters as a file extension is My Notes Center. It
>>apparently creates an open-ended data base file with .mnc extension. If
>>the
>>app is installed, speculating that mnc82DB.tmp could be one of its temp
>>files? In any case, you could try deleting the mnc82DB.tmp file and then
>>try opening the smaller recreated version in a text editor to look for
>>any
>>entries within the file that might identify the culprit program.
>
> I don't have that installed. I have deleted the mnc82DB.tmp file and
> it isn't back yet. When it does reappear, it shows up as almost 50GB.
> I suspect it would be big enough to fill my C: partition no matter how
> much space was there.
>
>>
>>"Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> wrote in message
>>news:5gd645ld2tud10h70e58628sin30i32nq5@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:05:45 -0700, "Spirit" <noone@localhost> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Look in Task Manager for something suspicious.
>>>>
>>>>There are viruses that write huge files to consume space.
>>>>Scan your computer with several online virus programs.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...anners+&aqi=g2
>>>
>>> Already used several of these and they found nothing. If it were a
>>> virus, I assume some of these would have the signature since it's been
>>> around several weeks.
>>>>
>>>>"Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:fqs545t8fed29opnd34n0q1uall2onqv1s@4ax.co m...
>>>>> Severl weeks ago, I got a warning that there was no more space on C:,
>>>>> my system partition. Properties showed 0 free space. I tracked down
>>>>> the problem to a file named mnc82DB.tmp, which was about 50GB. It was
>>>>> in the folder users\owner\appdata\local\temp. I have no idea where it
>>>>> came from and Google has no entries if I search on that file name.
>>>>> Trying to delete it fails, saying that it is open in another program.
>>>>> Rebooting and then deleting it fixes it....
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Temporarily. Today it came back. Same issues. It's very annoying
>>>>> sice if I try to print something I will lose if I reboot, it won't do
>>>>> it (0 free space). Another weirdness is that if I try to type
>>>>> something into the Firefox Goggle engine, the letters are entered in
>>>>> reverse order.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any idea what in the world this is? The OS is Vista
>>>>> Business x64 SP3.
>>
>>

I downloaded and ruan AutoRuns. It looks like it does show all the items
that MSConfig shows plus more, with the Export as option. Thanks!

-Paul Randall

"RalfG" <itsnotme@ladeda.deda> wrote in message
news:0981E327-4CE8-41EF-B0BE-971B7FD0ED0D@microsoft.com...
> "Autoruns" from sysinternals.com
>
> Newer versions use "Export as" for a list in a plain text file.
>
> "db" <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
> news:CE442843-B370-449C-AC9C-79341189D641@microsoft.com...
>> unfortunately, I am not
>> sure of any program
>> that prints your startups.
>>
>> but it doesn't mean that
>> there isn't any.
>>
>> perhaps, this is a problem
>> with your system,
>>
>> in that you may have too
>> many things loading up,
>> bogging down your system
>> and you don't know which
>> ones are doing what.
>>
>> for many of us, we have
>> less than a dozen start
>> ups.
>>
>> perhaps, you might want
>> to jot down the names of
>> those services and startups
>> that are enabled only.
>>
>> even though you will disabled
>> them,
>>
>> they will continue to appear
>> in the start up and services
>> tab but unchecked/disabled.
>>
>> --
>>
>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>> - Systems Analyst
>> - Database Developer
>> - Accountancy
>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>> - Microsoft Partner
>> - @hotmail.com
>> ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message
>> news:OUcA0sc9JHA.4944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "db" <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
>>> news:BB7148F6-FB40-4941-8BBB-F89DE46D0F0C@microsoft.com...
>>> <snip>
>>>> next, initiate a clean boot
>>>> by clicking on start>msconfig.
>>>>
>>>> go to startup tab and disable
>>>> all your startups.
>>>>
>>>> you might want to jot down
>>>> what they are.
>>>>
>>>> next go to services tab and
>>>> "hide" all microsoft services.
>>>>
>>>> then disable what remains
>>>> on the list.
>>>>
>>>> jot these down too.
>>>>
>>>> then reboot the machine.
>>>>
>>>> if that file no longer appears
>>>> in your c:\temp folder and
>>>> or your disk maintains
>>>> free space,
>>>>
>>>> then something you disabled
>>>> from msconfig likely attributed
>>>> to the problem.
>>>>
>>>> you will have to figure out which
>>>> program is the problem and
>>>> also consider which startup and
>>>> services you disable should be
>>>> re-enabled.
>>>
>>> Lots of stuff to jot down, and get wrong. Is there any command line
>>> tool that will list all this jotted stuff so it can be redirected to a
>>> file. Or, can VBScript access this info directly or through some COM
>>> object? Or, is the info available in the registry, and if so, where?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Paul Randall
>>>
>
>
>

db wrote:
>yes, it is a problem.
>
>but I am confident that
>with a little patience and
>observation,
>
>you will find the culprit
>that is causing it.
>
>if you move all your
>temps to one location,
>
>you can then create a
>desktop shortcut to
>the temp file for easy
>access and monitoring.
>>>could be music downloads.
>>>
>[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
>> after three or four weeks after I delete it. Its coming back is
>> unpredictable.

Do you have something installed that uses mencoder.exe ? (like a tool to
convert Video files ?)

I had the same problem and it tuned out to be caused by mencoder.exe that
crashed. I was trying to convert a DVD to a mobile divx (with CloneDVD Mobile)
. The program seemed to freeze at 99%, after killing the mencoder.exe process
the tempfile was gone and CloneDVD Mobile finished to 100%.

I think it's also part of FFMpeg or something like that ?