Would creating recovery disc disable recovery partition

A customer asked if he created the recovery disc would he still have a
complete working recovery partition. He is in fear of creating the disc then
losing them.

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Hi,

Not in most proprietary systems. Creation of the recovery disk set has no
effect on the recovery partition other than allowing the user to remove it
afterward if they like.

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>A customer asked if he created the recovery disc would he still have a
> complete working recovery partition. He is in fear of creating the disc
> then
> losing them.
>
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>
>

On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:27:33 -0400, Rick Rogers wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Not in most proprietary systems. Creation of the recovery disk set has no
> effect on the recovery partition other than allowing the user to remove it
> afterward if they like.

One of my systems did not let me create a second set of DVDs, with an
explicit error message... I have a Sony and an HP, but I forgot which one
said that. I only tried it on one, so the other might do the same. Or not.

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Theoretically, only 1 set of recovery disks is allowed. If you're
persistent, you will Google and discover this limitaion is for the lazy
people who don't learn, so you will discover you can make unlimited number
of backups but you're only allowed to use them on that particular machine
and I am not sure why would you need multiples when you can simply disk copy
to a 2nd set of DDVD's if you're so afraid of losing/damaging origianl
recovery disk set?

As of Harddisk recovery partition, no I don't think it's affected. I
personally don't care for either, as I am a "poweruser" and recover systems
without such silly recovery tricks.
I've a retail Vista disk, and used to own XP but lost; all I need is the
Windows disk + goto laptop manufactur3er's website to get latest drivers +
go BEYOND laptop system manufacturer to specific devices, e.g. I found a
proper Video driver for my GeForceGo7600 at NVidia website instead of HP
website who made my laptop.

HP site was wrong, I don't trust even people who made my computer because
they;re all humans and most ar eless educated than me, or spent fewer years
doing computers.
So i am one of those who dont care for Recovery disks or partition. Can
deal with disasters without it and end up with latest drivers, while you end
up woth OBSOLETE crap when usingf recovery disks.

But anyway, I dont think harddisk recovery function is defeated after making
recovery disks, though not 100% sure.
Why don't you open Windows Explorer and see if that recovery partition is
used, full or released/empty for you rusage?

I killed it. I needed that 9Gigabyte space it was wasting.

Hi Gene,

HP systems only allow for the creation of a single set of recovery disks
(though there is a method to unlock and redo it if necessary), however this
has no bearing on the recovery partition. The latter can still be used for
reinstalling to factory state after creation of the disks. The disks are
used in the event of a hard drive failure.

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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
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Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:27:33 -0400, Rick Rogers wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not in most proprietary systems. Creation of the recovery disk set has no
>> effect on the recovery partition other than allowing the user to remove
>> it
>> afterward if they like.
>
> One of my systems did not let me create a second set of DVDs, with an
> explicit error message... I have a Sony and an HP, but I forgot which one
> said that. I only tried it on one, so the other might do the same. Or not.
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Hi Gene,
>
> HP systems only allow for the creation of a single set of recovery disks
> (though there is a method to unlock and redo it if necessary), however
> this has no bearing on the recovery partition. The latter can still be
> used for reinstalling to factory state after creation of the disks. The
> disks are used in the event of a hard drive failure.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Rick,

Just in case I need to (or feel the need to<g>) create another set of
recovery disks, where might I find the "method to unlock and redo"?

Thanks.
Geo. Salisbury
Long Valley, NJ

As usual Registry modification does the trick, Google for it, you may spend
hours but WHY?
Why not make a disk-to-disk copy of your 1st set? Using DVD mastering
application most people have (I use Sonic - who inherited StompRecordZow,
which is superior to Nero; many people would mention Nero, etc).

I dont even bother with Recovery as it throws you back into stone age, back
to original unupdated drivers.
I reinstall CLEAN frm operating system disk, also I recommend Symantec
GHOST!

But if you insist on making multiple copies, Google for the solution,
there's a key that tells HP latops to make 1 recovery set, you can change it
to whatever or remove the key, something to that effect.
I dont think people here will Google and spend time for you.... but who
knows.

"Mark Levitski" <SS@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> As usual Registry modification does the trick, Google for it, you
> may spend hours but WHY?
> Why not make a disk-to-disk copy of your 1st set? Using DVD
> mastering application most people have (I use Sonic - who inherited
> StompRecordZow, which is superior to Nero; many people would mention
> Nero, etc).
>
> I dont even bother with Recovery as it throws you back into stone
> age, back to original unupdated drivers.
> I reinstall CLEAN frm operating system disk, also I recommend
> Symantec GHOST!
>
> But if you insist on making multiple copies, Google for the
> solution, there's a key that tells HP latops to make 1 recovery set,
> you can change it to whatever or remove the key, something to that
> effect.
> I dont think people here will Google and spend time for you.... but
> who knows.

Easy. Search on HP recovery disk reset and among others you get
http://www.coderetard.com/2008/08/12...t-restriction/

This was just one of the first off the top of the lengthy list of
google hits. It won't work if you've already done a recovery from
your first set of recovery DVDs but it's a simple .exe file, no
mucking around in Registry keys.

I haven't tried it yet but I will get around to running a second set
later. For reasons cited by others here, it's not a bad idea to make
a new set from scratch. Just be sure to do it before you have
occasion to perform a recovery from your first DVD set. And as always
before using anything that changes settings under the hood, have a
recent file back-up or run one, then create a restore point before
running the download.

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 06:17:05 -0400, Rick Rogers wrote:

> Hi Gene,
>
> HP systems only allow for the creation of a single set of recovery disks
> (though there is a method to unlock and redo it if necessary), however this
> has no bearing on the recovery partition. The latter can still be used for
> reinstalling to factory state after creation of the disks. The disks are
> used in the event of a hard drive failure.

To you and Mark: I was only discussing the limitation on the creation of
the DVD set...It never crossed my mind that the recovery partition would be
disabled after making backup discs, and in fact I have since booted to both
partitions a time or two just for fun (out of curiosity & for verifying its
availability). Besides, I think it would be crazy of the mfr to disable the
partition after backing it up. What if the B/U failed? In fact, what if my
drive dies and then I find out the B/U is no good? I'd learn how nice the
mfr is, I guess.

On my HP, when I got it, the recovery partition was shown as D:. I went to
Disk Management pretty quickly and turned off the drive letter (in order to
help keep me out of trouble). BTW, Acronis 9 changed the recovery partition
from invisible to D: on my other machine. I had some trouble fixing that,
and I no longer have Acronis on my machines.

I thought of making a disk copy of the DVD set, but after taking my pulse I
decided I wasn't paranoid enough to need to do that. That's probably
easier...or else harder...than searching for an unlocker (but that's a good
idea, Mark!).

My main reason for making the DVD set was in case of HD failure, but, among
other anecdotes, I just read a post a few minutes ago by someone who erased
his recovery partition, mostly as a result of a set of complicated
transactions - odd behavior of software - that misled him into that action
(I have lost track of the post - it's somewhere in another NG, I think...).
Even I could accomplish something like that :-)

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