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I could really use some help... I called Xbox 360 support, who transfered me
to Media Center support, who told me that Vista dis-qualifies me from support!
I installed Vista several months ago and have had it working succesfully as
an extender with complete functionality (videos, music, etc) for quite some
time until a few days ago, when suddenly the two stopped connecting. I
uninstalled the 360 as an extender several times on my PC and reinstalled it
using the PIN the 360 spit out, however as it goes through the install
process everytime it times out in the final step (after testing the
connection, finding the network, finding the media, etc) - Connecting To The
Extender...
The 360 eventually times out and shows me an error message of "Could not
Connect" and gives me a few tips including rebooting the 360 and making sure
it's connected to the network. (obviously not much help)
If anyone has any suggestions I would be very appreciative, I'm completely
lost as to what to try next to get the 360 and my pc to work as one again!
Re: Xbox 360 and Vista - suddenly stop connecting!
well, either youre running a beta of vista, or the rtm which still isnt
"available" to the public. so dont be surprised that youre not getting
support. did they say it would be supported after January 30th?
"mikedee" <mikedee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:31156128-EF11-48B9-B6E2-F17FAE3F864E@microsoft.com...
>I could really use some help... I called Xbox 360 support, who transfered
>me
> to Media Center support, who told me that Vista dis-qualifies me from
> support!
>
> I installed Vista several months ago and have had it working succesfully
> as
> an extender with complete functionality (videos, music, etc) for quite
> some
> time until a few days ago, when suddenly the two stopped connecting. I
> uninstalled the 360 as an extender several times on my PC and reinstalled
> it
> using the PIN the 360 spit out, however as it goes through the install
> process everytime it times out in the final step (after testing the
> connection, finding the network, finding the media, etc) - Connecting To
> The
> Extender...
>
> The 360 eventually times out and shows me an error message of "Could not
> Connect" and gives me a few tips including rebooting the 360 and making
> sure
> it's connected to the network. (obviously not much help)
>
> If anyone has any suggestions I would be very appreciative, I'm completely
> lost as to what to try next to get the 360 and my pc to work as one again!
>
> Thanks everyone!!
>
> - Mike
Re: Xbox 360 and Vista - suddenly stop connecting!
Actually, they didn't say that. I was surprised that the XBOX 360 support
line had to put me on hold for over ten minutes to get the Media Center
support agent on the phone just to tell me that they could not help me
because I am running Vista.
I'm debating calling back and telling them I'm running XP MCE and seeing if
they can fix the issue then, unless of course one of the many experts in the
forum could possibly help me connect my PC and my 360 once again much sooner!
"Troy McClure" wrote:
> well, either youre running a beta of vista, or the rtm which still isnt
> "available" to the public. so dont be surprised that youre not getting
> support. did they say it would be supported after January 30th?
>
>
>
> "mikedee" <mikedee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:31156128-EF11-48B9-B6E2-F17FAE3F864E@microsoft.com...
> >I could really use some help... I called Xbox 360 support, who transfered
> >me
> > to Media Center support, who told me that Vista dis-qualifies me from
> > support!
> >
> > I installed Vista several months ago and have had it working succesfully
> > as
> > an extender with complete functionality (videos, music, etc) for quite
> > some
> > time until a few days ago, when suddenly the two stopped connecting. I
> > uninstalled the 360 as an extender several times on my PC and reinstalled
> > it
> > using the PIN the 360 spit out, however as it goes through the install
> > process everytime it times out in the final step (after testing the
> > connection, finding the network, finding the media, etc) - Connecting To
> > The
> > Extender...
> >
> > The 360 eventually times out and shows me an error message of "Could not
> > Connect" and gives me a few tips including rebooting the 360 and making
> > sure
> > it's connected to the network. (obviously not much help)
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions I would be very appreciative, I'm completely
> > lost as to what to try next to get the 360 and my pc to work as one again!
> >
> > Thanks everyone!!
> >
> > - Mike
>
>
Re: Xbox 360 and Vista - suddenly stop connecting!
"mikedee" <mikedee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:802BBD01-3799-439A-A85F-F73E200B44AB@microsoft.com...
> I'm debating calling back and telling them I'm running XP MCE and seeing
> if
> they can fix the issue then, unless of course one of the many experts in
> the
> forum could possibly help me connect my PC and my 360 once again much
> sooner!
Well what changes have you made recently? Installed a firewall? Security
package? Mobile Device Center?
RE: Xbox 360 and Vista - suddenly stop connecting!
I have exactly the same problem.
Can you check your application log in event viewer. I am getting the
following when trying to connect. At least we can see if its the same problem.
Event id 1000
Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
> I could really use some help... I called Xbox 360 support, who transfered me
> to Media Center support, who told me that Vista dis-qualifies me from support!
>
> I installed Vista several months ago and have had it working succesfully as
> an extender with complete functionality (videos, music, etc) for quite some
> time until a few days ago, when suddenly the two stopped connecting. I
> uninstalled the 360 as an extender several times on my PC and reinstalled it
> using the PIN the 360 spit out, however as it goes through the install
> process everytime it times out in the final step (after testing the
> connection, finding the network, finding the media, etc) - Connecting To The
> Extender...
>
> The 360 eventually times out and shows me an error message of "Could not
> Connect" and gives me a few tips including rebooting the 360 and making sure
> it's connected to the network. (obviously not much help)
>
> If anyone has any suggestions I would be very appreciative, I'm completely
> lost as to what to try next to get the 360 and my pc to work as one again!
>
> Thanks everyone!!
>
> - Mike
> I have exactly the same problem.
> Can you check your application log in event viewer. I am getting the
> following when trying to connect. At least we can see if its the same problem.
>
> Event id 1000
> Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
>
> Log Name: Application
> Source: Application Error
> Date: 11/01/2007 00:16:41
> Event ID: 1000
> Task Category: (100)
> Level: Error
> Keywords: Classic
> User: N/A
> Computer: Laptop1
> Description:
> Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
> Event Xml:
> <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
> <System>
> <Provider Name="Application Error" />
> <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1000</EventID>
> <Level>2</Level>
> <Task>100</Task>
> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-01-11T00:16:41.000Z" />
> <EventRecordID>1738</EventRecordID>
> <Channel>Application</Channel>
> <Computer>Laptop1</Computer>
> <Security />
> </System>
> <EventData>
> <Data>mcrmgr.exe</Data>
> <Data>6.1.5600.16384</Data>
> <Data>44f55045</Data>
> <Data>ntdll.dll</Data>
> <Data>6.0.5600.16384</Data>
> <Data>44f55882</Data>
> <Data>c0000005</Data>
> <Data>000607d5</Data>
> <Data>de0</Data>
> <Data>01c73515c4a39b90</Data>
> </EventData>
> </Event>
> Details
>
>
>
> "mikedee" wrote:
>
> > I could really use some help... I called Xbox 360 support, who transfered me
> > to Media Center support, who told me that Vista dis-qualifies me from support!
> >
> > I installed Vista several months ago and have had it working succesfully as
> > an extender with complete functionality (videos, music, etc) for quite some
> > time until a few days ago, when suddenly the two stopped connecting. I
> > uninstalled the 360 as an extender several times on my PC and reinstalled it
> > using the PIN the 360 spit out, however as it goes through the install
> > process everytime it times out in the final step (after testing the
> > connection, finding the network, finding the media, etc) - Connecting To The
> > Extender...
> >
> > The 360 eventually times out and shows me an error message of "Could not
> > Connect" and gives me a few tips including rebooting the 360 and making sure
> > it's connected to the network. (obviously not much help)
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions I would be very appreciative, I'm completely
> > lost as to what to try next to get the 360 and my pc to work as one again!
> >
> > Thanks everyone!!
> >
> > - Mike
RE: Xbox 360 and Vista - suddenly stop connecting!
looks like we are using the same verion of vista, 5600 rc1. I am in the
process of downloading a new one off of msdn, i think its a later release,
rc1 is from september and there is a mid november release which i am guessing
is the final release.. may be. According to http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista.asp there has been some media
center changes over the differant versions so may be there is a fix in the
later version.
"Snips" wrote:
> I have exactly the same problem.
> Can you check your application log in event viewer. I am getting the
> following when trying to connect. At least we can see if its the same problem.
>
> Event id 1000
> Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
>
> Log Name: Application
> Source: Application Error
> Date: 11/01/2007 00:16:41
> Event ID: 1000
> Task Category: (100)
> Level: Error
> Keywords: Classic
> User: N/A
> Computer: Laptop1
> Description:
> Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
> Event Xml:
> <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
> <System>
> <Provider Name="Application Error" />
> <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1000</EventID>
> <Level>2</Level>
> <Task>100</Task>
> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-01-11T00:16:41.000Z" />
> <EventRecordID>1738</EventRecordID>
> <Channel>Application</Channel>
> <Computer>Laptop1</Computer>
> <Security />
> </System>
> <EventData>
> <Data>mcrmgr.exe</Data>
> <Data>6.1.5600.16384</Data>
> <Data>44f55045</Data>
> <Data>ntdll.dll</Data>
> <Data>6.0.5600.16384</Data>
> <Data>44f55882</Data>
> <Data>c0000005</Data>
> <Data>000607d5</Data>
> <Data>de0</Data>
> <Data>01c73515c4a39b90</Data>
> </EventData>
> </Event>
> Details
>
>
>
> "mikedee" wrote:
>
> > I could really use some help... I called Xbox 360 support, who transfered me
> > to Media Center support, who told me that Vista dis-qualifies me from support!
> >
> > I installed Vista several months ago and have had it working succesfully as
> > an extender with complete functionality (videos, music, etc) for quite some
> > time until a few days ago, when suddenly the two stopped connecting. I
> > uninstalled the 360 as an extender several times on my PC and reinstalled it
> > using the PIN the 360 spit out, however as it goes through the install
> > process everytime it times out in the final step (after testing the
> > connection, finding the network, finding the media, etc) - Connecting To The
> > Extender...
> >
> > The 360 eventually times out and shows me an error message of "Could not
> > Connect" and gives me a few tips including rebooting the 360 and making sure
> > it's connected to the network. (obviously not much help)
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions I would be very appreciative, I'm completely
> > lost as to what to try next to get the 360 and my pc to work as one again!
> >
> > Thanks everyone!!
> >
> > - Mike
RE: Xbox 360 and Vista - suddenly stop connecting!
Were you able to get it working?
"snips" wrote:
> looks like we are using the same verion of vista, 5600 rc1. I am in the
> process of downloading a new one off of msdn, i think its a later release,
> rc1 is from september and there is a mid november release which i am guessing
> is the final release.. may be. According to
> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista.asp there has been some media
> center changes over the differant versions so may be there is a fix in the
> later version.
>
> "Snips" wrote:
>
> > I have exactly the same problem.
> > Can you check your application log in event viewer. I am getting the
> > following when trying to connect. At least we can see if its the same problem.
> >
> > Event id 1000
> > Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> > 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> > 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> > 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
> >
> > Log Name: Application
> > Source: Application Error
> > Date: 11/01/2007 00:16:41
> > Event ID: 1000
> > Task Category: (100)
> > Level: Error
> > Keywords: Classic
> > User: N/A
> > Computer: Laptop1
> > Description:
> > Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> > 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> > 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> > 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
> > Event Xml:
> > <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
> > <System>
> > <Provider Name="Application Error" />
> > <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1000</EventID>
> > <Level>2</Level>
> > <Task>100</Task>
> > <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
> > <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-01-11T00:16:41.000Z" />
> > <EventRecordID>1738</EventRecordID>
> > <Channel>Application</Channel>
> > <Computer>Laptop1</Computer>
> > <Security />
> > </System>
> > <EventData>
> > <Data>mcrmgr.exe</Data>
> > <Data>6.1.5600.16384</Data>
> > <Data>44f55045</Data>
> > <Data>ntdll.dll</Data>
> > <Data>6.0.5600.16384</Data>
> > <Data>44f55882</Data>
> > <Data>c0000005</Data>
> > <Data>000607d5</Data>
> > <Data>de0</Data>
> > <Data>01c73515c4a39b90</Data>
> > </EventData>
> > </Event>
> > Details
> >
> >
> >
> > "mikedee" wrote:
> >
> > > I could really use some help... I called Xbox 360 support, who transfered me
> > > to Media Center support, who told me that Vista dis-qualifies me from support!
> > >
> > > I installed Vista several months ago and have had it working succesfully as
> > > an extender with complete functionality (videos, music, etc) for quite some
> > > time until a few days ago, when suddenly the two stopped connecting. I
> > > uninstalled the 360 as an extender several times on my PC and reinstalled it
> > > using the PIN the 360 spit out, however as it goes through the install
> > > process everytime it times out in the final step (after testing the
> > > connection, finding the network, finding the media, etc) - Connecting To The
> > > Extender...
> > >
> > > The 360 eventually times out and shows me an error message of "Could not
> > > Connect" and gives me a few tips including rebooting the 360 and making sure
> > > it's connected to the network. (obviously not much help)
> > >
> > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be very appreciative, I'm completely
> > > lost as to what to try next to get the 360 and my pc to work as one again!
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone!!
> > >
> > > - Mike
RE: Xbox 360 and Vista - suddenly stop connecting!
I have the dad the same problem with my Xbox360 not connecting to Windows
Vista RC1 Build 5600 on my PC. It appears Microsoft in all their wisdom has
timebombed the Media Center within Vista RC1. I set the date on my computer
to anything prior to Jan 1, 2007 and my Xbox 360 connected fine to the PC
with Media Center.
"Stephen" wrote:
> Were you able to get it working?
>
> "snips" wrote:
>
> > looks like we are using the same verion of vista, 5600 rc1. I am in the
> > process of downloading a new one off of msdn, i think its a later release,
> > rc1 is from september and there is a mid november release which i am guessing
> > is the final release.. may be. According to
> > http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista.asp there has been some media
> > center changes over the differant versions so may be there is a fix in the
> > later version.
> >
> > "Snips" wrote:
> >
> > > I have exactly the same problem.
> > > Can you check your application log in event viewer. I am getting the
> > > following when trying to connect. At least we can see if its the same problem.
> > >
> > > Event id 1000
> > > Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> > > 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> > > 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> > > 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
> > >
> > > Log Name: Application
> > > Source: Application Error
> > > Date: 11/01/2007 00:16:41
> > > Event ID: 1000
> > > Task Category: (100)
> > > Level: Error
> > > Keywords: Classic
> > > User: N/A
> > > Computer: Laptop1
> > > Description:
> > > Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> > > 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> > > 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> > > 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
> > > Event Xml:
> > > <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
> > > <System>
> > > <Provider Name="Application Error" />
> > > <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1000</EventID>
> > > <Level>2</Level>
> > > <Task>100</Task>
> > > <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
> > > <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-01-11T00:16:41.000Z" />
> > > <EventRecordID>1738</EventRecordID>
> > > <Channel>Application</Channel>
> > > <Computer>Laptop1</Computer>
> > > <Security />
> > > </System>
> > > <EventData>
> > > <Data>mcrmgr.exe</Data>
> > > <Data>6.1.5600.16384</Data>
> > > <Data>44f55045</Data>
> > > <Data>ntdll.dll</Data>
> > > <Data>6.0.5600.16384</Data>
> > > <Data>44f55882</Data>
> > > <Data>c0000005</Data>
> > > <Data>000607d5</Data>
> > > <Data>de0</Data>
> > > <Data>01c73515c4a39b90</Data>
> > > </EventData>
> > > </Event>
> > > Details
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "mikedee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I could really use some help... I called Xbox 360 support, who transfered me
> > > > to Media Center support, who told me that Vista dis-qualifies me from support!
> > > >
> > > > I installed Vista several months ago and have had it working succesfully as
> > > > an extender with complete functionality (videos, music, etc) for quite some
> > > > time until a few days ago, when suddenly the two stopped connecting. I
> > > > uninstalled the 360 as an extender several times on my PC and reinstalled it
> > > > using the PIN the 360 spit out, however as it goes through the install
> > > > process everytime it times out in the final step (after testing the
> > > > connection, finding the network, finding the media, etc) - Connecting To The
> > > > Extender...
> > > >
> > > > The 360 eventually times out and shows me an error message of "Could not
> > > > Connect" and gives me a few tips including rebooting the 360 and making sure
> > > > it's connected to the network. (obviously not much help)
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be very appreciative, I'm completely
> > > > lost as to what to try next to get the 360 and my pc to work as one again!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks everyone!!
> > > >
> > > > - Mike
RE: Xbox 360 and Vista - suddenly stop connecting!
I'll give it a go over the week end, nice find jimo an that date problem, how
on earth did you find that.......
"MustangJimo" wrote:
> I have the dad the same problem with my Xbox360 not connecting to Windows
> Vista RC1 Build 5600 on my PC. It appears Microsoft in all their wisdom has
> timebombed the Media Center within Vista RC1. I set the date on my computer
> to anything prior to Jan 1, 2007 and my Xbox 360 connected fine to the PC
> with Media Center.
>
> "Stephen" wrote:
>
> > Were you able to get it working?
> >
> > "snips" wrote:
> >
> > > looks like we are using the same verion of vista, 5600 rc1. I am in the
> > > process of downloading a new one off of msdn, i think its a later release,
> > > rc1 is from september and there is a mid november release which i am guessing
> > > is the final release.. may be. According to
> > > http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista.asp there has been some media
> > > center changes over the differant versions so may be there is a fix in the
> > > later version.
> > >
> > > "Snips" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have exactly the same problem.
> > > > Can you check your application log in event viewer. I am getting the
> > > > following when trying to connect. At least we can see if its the same problem.
> > > >
> > > > Event id 1000
> > > > Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> > > > 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> > > > 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> > > > 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
> > > >
> > > > Log Name: Application
> > > > Source: Application Error
> > > > Date: 11/01/2007 00:16:41
> > > > Event ID: 1000
> > > > Task Category: (100)
> > > > Level: Error
> > > > Keywords: Classic
> > > > User: N/A
> > > > Computer: Laptop1
> > > > Description:
> > > > Faulting application mcrmgr.exe, version 6.1.5600.16384, time stamp
> > > > 0x44f55045, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.5600.16384, time stamp
> > > > 0x44f55882, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000607d5, process id
> > > > 0xde0, application start time 0x01c73515c4a39b90.
> > > > Event Xml:
> > > > <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
> > > > <System>
> > > > <Provider Name="Application Error" />
> > > > <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1000</EventID>
> > > > <Level>2</Level>
> > > > <Task>100</Task>
> > > > <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
> > > > <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-01-11T00:16:41.000Z" />
> > > > <EventRecordID>1738</EventRecordID>
> > > > <Channel>Application</Channel>
> > > > <Computer>Laptop1</Computer>
> > > > <Security />
> > > > </System>
> > > > <EventData>
> > > > <Data>mcrmgr.exe</Data>
> > > > <Data>6.1.5600.16384</Data>
> > > > <Data>44f55045</Data>
> > > > <Data>ntdll.dll</Data>
> > > > <Data>6.0.5600.16384</Data>
> > > > <Data>44f55882</Data>
> > > > <Data>c0000005</Data>
> > > > <Data>000607d5</Data>
> > > > <Data>de0</Data>
> > > > <Data>01c73515c4a39b90</Data>
> > > > </EventData>
> > > > </Event>
> > > > Details
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "mikedee" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I could really use some help... I called Xbox 360 support, who transfered me
> > > > > to Media Center support, who told me that Vista dis-qualifies me from support!
> > > > >
> > > > > I installed Vista several months ago and have had it working succesfully as
> > > > > an extender with complete functionality (videos, music, etc) for quite some
> > > > > time until a few days ago, when suddenly the two stopped connecting. I
> > > > > uninstalled the 360 as an extender several times on my PC and reinstalled it
> > > > > using the PIN the 360 spit out, however as it goes through the install
> > > > > process everytime it times out in the final step (after testing the
> > > > > connection, finding the network, finding the media, etc) - Connecting To The
> > > > > Extender...
> > > > >
> > > > > The 360 eventually times out and shows me an error message of "Could not
> > > > > Connect" and gives me a few tips including rebooting the 360 and making sure
> > > > > it's connected to the network. (obviously not much help)
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be very appreciative, I'm completely
> > > > > lost as to what to try next to get the 360 and my pc to work as one again!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks everyone!!
> > > > >
> > > > > - Mike
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