Intel 915GM WILL do 3D window effects...

....in Linux. Both Gnome Compiz and KDE Beryl 3D desktops work great on the
915GM chipset. Full 3D desktop effects including transparent window frames,
spinning cube workspaces and springy window transitions. The chipset is
perfectly capable.

So why doesn't Intel write a WDDM driver for this chipset to give us the
full Aero effect? I think I know why - $$$ in 945GM upgrades.

Sad Intel, sad.

Another reason could be the architectures, Linux is different from Windows
Vista. So, instead of having lousy performance, with a pretty interface,
Intel chose not to provide a driver that enables the full AERO effects and
visuals.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Tim Payne" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> ...in Linux. Both Gnome Compiz and KDE Beryl 3D desktops work great on
> the 915GM chipset. Full 3D desktop effects including transparent window
> frames, spinning cube workspaces and springy window transitions. The
> chipset is perfectly capable.
>
> So why doesn't Intel write a WDDM driver for this chipset to give us the
> full Aero effect? I think I know why - $$$ in 945GM upgrades.
>
> Sad Intel, sad.

Andre,

I don't think so, I belive Vista can have a perfectly smooth 3D desktop
experience on less performant 3D accellerators if we loose the blurred glass
effect. Shadows and "compositioning" is a piece of cake for all recent 3D
accellerators, but the blurred glass effect is a pixel shader 2.0 microcode
program.

They could make a XP like interface that would be faster and take less
system memory then Windows XP if the wanted, the programs GUI elements would
float around in hardware accellerated heaven on the GPU and its memory. Oh
well.

Minus the blurr and your windows are going to be very diffcult to decipher.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Jon Austenaa" <JonAustenaa@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Andre,
>
> I don't think so, I belive Vista can have a perfectly smooth 3D desktop
> experience on less performant 3D accellerators if we loose the blurred
> glass
> effect. Shadows and "compositioning" is a piece of cake for all recent 3D
> accellerators, but the blurred glass effect is a pixel shader 2.0
> microcode
> program.
>
> They could make a XP like interface that would be faster and take less
> system memory then Windows XP if the wanted, the programs GUI elements
> would
> float around in hardware accellerated heaven on the GPU and its memory. Oh
> well.

I'm having same problem with ver 829156//gv/910gL new machine in March 2007.
I have emailed Intel suggesting they incorporate in their web site an "Intel
Sniffer" to identify and update ones Intel products as is done by many other
professional entities.
Ron.

"Tim Payne" wrote:

> ....in Linux. Both Gnome Compiz and KDE Beryl 3D desktops work great on the
> 915GM chipset. Full 3D desktop effects including transparent window frames,
> spinning cube workspaces and springy window transitions. The chipset is
> perfectly capable.
>
> So why doesn't Intel write a WDDM driver for this chipset to give us the
> full Aero effect? I think I know why - $$$ in 945GM upgrades.
>
> Sad Intel, sad.
>
>

While I agree that the 915 chipset could probably support a wddm driver and
the decision not to support it was a marketing decision by Intel I don't
agree that Microsoft should have supported older graphics cards with Aero.
When designing an OS you have to look forward not backward. For marketing
reasons you have to look back a certain amount but at some point you have to
draw a line and say this is it. The specifications for Aero are not that
onerous. Almost all graphics chipsets produced in the last couple of years
meet the specifications. Some chipset manufacturers have better support than
others with drivers. This is a decision by them not Microsoft. Do the latest
games work with all the graphics features enabled with older video cards? As
hardware improves software must change to take advantage of it.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Jon Austenaa" <JonAustenaa@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AC970964-9149-464F-A66D-62926B4B5CE9@microsoft.com...
> Andre,
>
> I don't think so, I belive Vista can have a perfectly smooth 3D desktop
> experience on less performant 3D accellerators if we loose the blurred
> glass
> effect. Shadows and "compositioning" is a piece of cake for all recent 3D
> accellerators, but the blurred glass effect is a pixel shader 2.0
> microcode
> program.
>
> They could make a XP like interface that would be faster and take less
> system memory then Windows XP if the wanted, the programs GUI elements
> would
> float around in hardware accellerated heaven on the GPU and its memory. Oh
> well.

My ram is not even shown in ms info, this is ridiculous.

"Sendmealist" wrote:

> I'm having same problem with ver 829156//gv/910gL new machine in March 2007.
> I have emailed Intel suggesting they incorporate in their web site an "Intel
> Sniffer" to identify and update ones Intel products as is done by many other
> professional entities.
> Ron.
>
> "Tim Payne" wrote:
>
> > ....in Linux. Both Gnome Compiz and KDE Beryl 3D desktops work great on the
> > 915GM chipset. Full 3D desktop effects including transparent window frames,
> > spinning cube workspaces and springy window transitions. The chipset is
> > perfectly capable.
> >
> > So why doesn't Intel write a WDDM driver for this chipset to give us the
> > full Aero effect? I think I know why - $$$ in 945GM upgrades.
> >
> > Sad Intel, sad.
> >
> >

Hi,

If you are using Intel 915 chipset without aonther graphic chipset onboard,
goto http://www.petitiononline.com/intel915/petition.html and sign it. The
owner of petition will send this list to Intel that we are in trouble.

Cheers,
Pound@Gestalt


"Tim Payne" wrote:

> ....in Linux. Both Gnome Compiz and KDE Beryl 3D desktops work great on the
> 915GM chipset. Full 3D desktop effects including transparent window frames,
> spinning cube workspaces and springy window transitions. The chipset is
> perfectly capable.
>
> So why doesn't Intel write a WDDM driver for this chipset to give us the
> full Aero effect? I think I know why - $$$ in 945GM upgrades.
>
> Sad Intel, sad.
>
>