XP-Vista-System Restore

When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:

A. if they are on separate HDs

B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions

C. all of the above

Thanks
BChat

Of course not. Restore points reside within each individual
Windows operating system.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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"BChat" wrote:

| When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
|
| A. if they are on separate HDs
|
| B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
|
| C. all of the above
|
| Thanks
| BChat

Am I missing something? I was under the impression that this was a well-known
scenario. Before I learned of this issue I had tried dual boot WinXP SP2 /
Vista RTM systems with both OS installations on separate partitions of same
physical drive and on separate physical drives. Windows XP seeks and destroys
restore points on Vista partitions. Thinks they're corrupted restore points.
MS says no fix will be offered.

I'm sure I could be wrong about the MS stance on this, but I know what
happened to system restore under Vista on my dual boot systems.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Of course not. Restore points reside within each individual
> Windows operating system.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
> Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/
>
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>
> "BChat" wrote:
>
> | When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
> |
> | A. if they are on separate HDs
> |
> | B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
> |
> | C. all of the above
> |
> | Thanks
> | BChat
>
>
>

I should have added that, if you use a third party boot manager that hides
the Vista installation from WinXP, then this does NOT happen. But I'd rather
not use third party boot process managers. I don't know why I even bothered
with a dual boot this time around anyway. I hate dual booting. From now on,
when I do preliminary testing of a new OS the new OS gets its own danged
machine as it deserves.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Of course not. Restore points reside within each individual
> Windows operating system.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
> Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "BChat" wrote:
>
> | When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
> |
> | A. if they are on separate HDs
> |
> | B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
> |
> | C. all of the above
> |
> | Thanks
> | BChat
>
>
>

The answer is C. The only choices at this point are to either use BitLocker
where available, or to hide the Vista partition BEFORE booting into XP using
a 3rd party boot manager.


"BChat" <not@available.com> wrote in message
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> When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
>
> A. if they are on separate HDs
>
> B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
>
> C. all of the above
>
> Thanks
> BChat
>
>

C. all of the above...

I, too, have been following the discussions, and dual boot XP/Vista. I have
them on separate HDD's, and installed Vista from within XP, so that C: is
ONLY XP, and Vista stays on F: (in my case). Yesterday, I did some extensive
(?) testing...creating restore points in Vista, then rebooting and creating
points in XP, then rebooting, etc. I found the restore points in XP remained
unchanged (as advertised in the posts), and the restore points missing in
Vista (as advertised). The process was repeated more than once, and
everytime the restore points were missing from Vista. Soooo....I'll fall
back to my BootItNG, and hide Vista from XP. No need to hide XP from Vista.

John

"BChat" <not@available.com> wrote in message
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> When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
> A. if they are on separate HDs
> B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
> C. all of the above
>
> Thanks
> BChat

I always turn-off System Restore (in Windows XP) for partitions or drives not running
Windows XP. I would suggest the same prior to installing Windows Vista.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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"John C. Iliff" wrote:

| C. all of the above...
|
| I, too, have been following the discussions, and dual boot XP/Vista. I have
| them on separate HDD's, and installed Vista from within XP, so that C: is
| ONLY XP, and Vista stays on F: (in my case). Yesterday, I did some extensive
| (?) testing...creating restore points in Vista, then rebooting and creating
| points in XP, then rebooting, etc. I found the restore points in XP remained
| unchanged (as advertised in the posts), and the restore points missing in
| Vista (as advertised). The process was repeated more than once, and
| everytime the restore points were missing from Vista. Soooo....I'll fall
| back to my BootItNG, and hide Vista from XP. No need to hide XP from Vista.
|
| John
|
| "BChat" <not@available.com> wrote in message
| news:OZPxu2EMHHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
| > A. if they are on separate HDs
| > B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
| > C. all of the above
| >
| > Thanks
| > BChat
|
|

I install Vista from within XP (C to a separate HD = D: in my case
---I'll be getting a full version of Ultimate---
turn off system restore in XP for all but C:
I never knew you could do this - I just did it :-)
D:, an empty HD, is now not monitored by System Restore
Is VistaBootPRO still OK for booting software?
Thanks for the info, I love it when I learn something.
Come on January 30th!
BChat



"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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I always turn-off System Restore (in Windows XP) for partitions or drives
not running
Windows XP. I would suggest the same prior to installing Windows Vista.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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"John C. Iliff" wrote:

| C. all of the above...
|
| I, too, have been following the discussions, and dual boot XP/Vista. I
have
| them on separate HDD's, and installed Vista from within XP, so that C: is
| ONLY XP, and Vista stays on F: (in my case). Yesterday, I did some
extensive
| (?) testing...creating restore points in Vista, then rebooting and
creating
| points in XP, then rebooting, etc. I found the restore points in XP
remained
| unchanged (as advertised in the posts), and the restore points missing in
| Vista (as advertised). The process was repeated more than once, and
| everytime the restore points were missing from Vista. Soooo....I'll fall
| back to my BootItNG, and hide Vista from XP. No need to hide XP from
Vista.
|
| John
|
| "BChat" <not@available.com> wrote in message
| news:OZPxu2EMHHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
| > A. if they are on separate HDs
| > B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
| > C. all of the above
| >
| > Thanks
| > BChat
|
|

It is.

"jimmuh" <jimmuh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Am I missing something? I was under the impression that this was a
> well-known
> scenario. Before I learned of this issue I had tried dual boot WinXP SP2 /
> Vista RTM systems with both OS installations on separate partitions of
> same
> physical drive and on separate physical drives. Windows XP seeks and
> destroys
> restore points on Vista partitions. Thinks they're corrupted restore
> points.
> MS says no fix will be offered.
>
> I'm sure I could be wrong about the MS stance on this, but I know what
> happened to system restore under Vista on my dual boot systems.
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Of course not. Restore points reside within each individual
>> Windows operating system.
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>> Microsoft Community Newsgroups
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "BChat" wrote:
>>
>> | When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
>> |
>> | A. if they are on separate HDs
>> |
>> | B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
>> |
>> | C. all of the above
>> |
>> | Thanks
>> | BChat
>>
>>
>>

Carey, it now well known that the XP volsnap.sys will kill the Vista restore
points (and other shadow copies) at XP startup.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Of course not. Restore points reside within each individual
> Windows operating system.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
> Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "BChat" wrote:
>
> | When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
> |
> | A. if they are on separate HDs
> |
> | B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
> |
> | C. all of the above
> |
> | Thanks
> | BChat
>
>