New HD DVD Format

According to today's Business Day section of The New York Times,
at CES next Tuesday, Warner Bros. (div. of Time Warner) will introduce
a new high definition DVD disk format called Total HD disc that can
play both Blu-ray and HD DVD.

On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:36:12 -0000, DCR <dcr@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> According to today's Business Day section of The New York Times,
> at CES next Tuesday, Warner Bros. (div. of Time Warner) will introduce
> a new high definition DVD disk format called Total HD disc that can
> play both Blu-ray and HD DVD.
>
>

That's reduced capacity, thus reduced quality. No thanks i'll stick to
50GB Blu-Ray thanks, that where the quality is...


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I think studios are getting frustrated at the whole thing.

Without turning this into a format debate, I see the advantage(s) of HD-DVD
but I can also certainly see that the outlook looks more positive for BD;
Backing from studios, hardware manufacturers (in both CE and Computing) as
well as the capacity advantages will do it for BD IMO. But sadly I think
we'll see a slugging between the two in the short term.


"DCR" wrote:

> According to today's Business Day section of The New York Times,
> at CES next Tuesday, Warner Bros. (div. of Time Warner) will introduce
> a new high definition DVD disk format called Total HD disc that can
> play both Blu-ray and HD DVD.
>
>
>

"Mark Gillespie" <mark.gillespie@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's reduced capacity, thus reduced quality. No thanks i'll stick to
> 50GB Blu-Ray thanks, that where the quality is...

This is a player that can play both formats, not a new format.

You should also check out reviews of HD DVD titles vs Blu-ray, HD DVD has
the quality edge as Blu-ray discs are still the last time I checked at 25GB
and using MPEG2.

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"Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I think studios are getting frustrated at the whole thing.
>
> Without turning this into a format debate, I see the advantage(s) of
> HD-DVD
> but I can also certainly see that the outlook looks more positive for BD;
> Backing from studios, hardware manufacturers (in both CE and Computing) as
> well as the capacity advantages will do it for BD IMO. But sadly I think
> we'll see a slugging between the two in the short term.

HD DVD has a very large lead in sales compared to Blu-ray, but not enough
for it to become the standard at least not yet.

It looks like dual-players are what we're going to have to put up with for
the time being. At least they're not far off now. It's just a shame about
the price.

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Scratch that.

There's also a dual-format player by LG that should be shipping early 2007
in the US.

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The early PQ advantage of HD-DVD was purely caused by HD-DVD's use of VC1
compression while BD was only using MPEG2. All BD are also now 50GB. BD
movies will use VC1 going forward.

"Paul Smith" wrote:

> "Mark Gillespie" <mark.gillespie@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsp.tlnbi1iuj2q9yy@vista-laptop.draytek...
>
> > That's reduced capacity, thus reduced quality. No thanks i'll stick to
> > 50GB Blu-Ray thanks, that where the quality is...
>
> This is a player that can play both formats, not a new format.
>
> You should also check out reviews of HD DVD titles vs Blu-ray, HD DVD has
> the quality edge as Blu-ray discs are still the last time I checked at 25GB
> and using MPEG2.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
> Get ready for Windows Vista: http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:29:33 -0000, Paul Smith
<Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote:

> HD DVD has a very large lead in sales compared to Blu-ray, but not
> enough for it to become the standard at least not yet.
>


I don't think there is a large lead anymore, Amazon sales rank shows
Blu-Ray very close in sales rank to HD-DVD. BD camp have acomplished in
2 months, what HD-DVD has taken a year todo. Within 6 months, BD sales
will dwarf HD-DVD. In 2 years, HD-DVD will be forgotten laserdisc of the
21st centuary.

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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:24:41 -0000, Paul Smith
<Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote:

> "Mark Gillespie" <mark.gillespie@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsp.tlnbi1iuj2q9yy@vista-laptop.draytek...
>
>> That's reduced capacity, thus reduced quality. No thanks i'll stick to
>> 50GB Blu-Ray thanks, that where the quality is...
>
> This is a player that can play both formats, not a new format.
>
> You should also check out reviews of HD DVD titles vs Blu-ray, HD DVD
> has the quality edge as Blu-ray discs are still the last time I checked
> at 25GB and using MPEG2.
>

Blu-Ray are now using the 50GB MPEG2, VC1 and H264 encodings, with
uncompressed audio, and looking better than HD-DVD in most cases.. There
are still some lousy transfers around on BOTH formats, the fanboys however
like comparing bad Blu-Ray discs to good HD-DVD disks, and creating false
differentiators.