registry cleaner help needed

i cannot find any registry cleaner that will work on my vista system. i have
tried several so far. they will find the problems but will not delete them. i
also noticed that at the end of the scan it will say " volitile enviroment "
i have no idea what this means. any ideas?

bandmama wrote:
> i cannot find any registry cleaner that will work on my vista system. i have
> tried several so far. they will find the problems but will not delete them. i
> also noticed that at the end of the scan it will say " volitile enviroment "
> i have no idea what this means. any ideas?

You were inadvertently fortunate. Registry cleaners are snake oil,
dangerous, and unnecessary. If you don't know enough to work with your
registry by hand - and it is rarely necessary to do this - then you most
certainly should not use a registry cleaner.

The error message you are getting indicates that whatever program you
had isn't Vista-compatible and should not be used.

If you want to read lengthy discussions about why not to use registry
cleaners, go to Google Groups Advanced Search, constrain the search to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general and use the search term "registry
cleaner".

Please don't come back with a post stating something along the lines of
"I've used Registry Cleaner X for years and it has always worked". Been
there, done that, reinstalled Windows for years on users' machines where
they had used a registry cleaner.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

"bandmama" <bandmama@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8C2EB52F-DC51-4B66-AEC4-6B6F761CD049@microsoft.com...
>i cannot find any registry cleaner that will work on my vista system. i have
> tried several so far. they will find the problems but will not delete them. i
> also noticed that at the end of the scan it will say " volitile enviroment "
> i have no idea what this means. any ideas?

I have never seen such an error. What registry cleaner did you
download and from where? There are plenty of sites offering
"registry cleaners" and "spyware removal" and they are nothing
but spyware/adware themselves. Or, they do "scans" that find
all sorts of errors/critters and in order to remove those you have
to buy the full product. You scan your computer with Windows Defender
and then your AV to see if one of those products put some type of
spyware/adware/virus on your computer.

Also, you should always be very careful when using a registry cleaner.
They can remove entries that can cause all sorts of weirdness and
basically can mess up your OS. Registry cleaners should *only* be used
as a last resort.

You can try Crap Cleaner. I use it for cleanup purposes, but it also has
a registry cleaner. It's located under the "issues" tab. I haven't ever
experienced a problem using it, but I use very rarely and I look at the
error entries before I allow CrapCleaner to fix/delete them.

http://www.ccleaner.com/


Take care,

Michael

Registry Mechanic works fine for me on Vista Business.
Mike

On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 05:34:34 -0700, Malke <notreally@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>bandmama wrote:
>> i cannot find any registry cleaner that will work on my vista system. i have
>> tried several so far. they will find the problems but will not delete them. i
>> also noticed that at the end of the scan it will say " volitile enviroment "
>> i have no idea what this means. any ideas?
>
>You were inadvertently fortunate. Registry cleaners are snake oil,
>dangerous, and unnecessary. If you don't know enough to work with your
>registry by hand - and it is rarely necessary to do this - then you most
>certainly should not use a registry cleaner.

Damn, some guys just need to have pissing contests in this newsgroup.
Tell you what kid, you be the doofus you are and 'work your Registry
by hand', then you'll be here the next day whining you can't even boot
into Windows.

Unnecessary? That would be debateable. Decent Registry cleaners serve
a useful purpose, for example they remove orphaned and widowed lines
in your Registry that point to nowhere, they also can clean up after
software that doesn't remove itself fully and good things like that.
For some fool to suggest, oh I do it by hand, is just some clown on a
a testosterone rush trying to look knowledgeable. Lot of that here.

Hilarious.

"Adam Albright" wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 05:34:34 -0700, Malke <notreally@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >bandmama wrote:
> >> i cannot find any registry cleaner that will work on my vista system. i have
> >> tried several so far. they will find the problems but will not delete them. i
> >> also noticed that at the end of the scan it will say " volitile enviroment "
> >> i have no idea what this means. any ideas?
> >
> >You were inadvertently fortunate. Registry cleaners are snake oil,
> >dangerous, and unnecessary. If you don't know enough to work with your
> >registry by hand - and it is rarely necessary to do this - then you most
> >certainly should not use a registry cleaner.
>
> Damn, some guys just need to have pissing contests in this newsgroup.
> Tell you what kid, you be the doofus you are and 'work your Registry
> by hand', then you'll be here the next day whining you can't even boot
> into Windows.
>
> Unnecessary? That would be debateable. Decent Registry cleaners serve
> a useful purpose, for example they remove orphaned and widowed lines
> in your Registry that point to nowhere, they also can clean up after
> software that doesn't remove itself fully and good things like that.
> For some fool to suggest, oh I do it by hand, is just some clown on a
> a testosterone rush trying to look knowledgeable. Lot of that here.
>
>
>

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 05:34:34 -0700, Malke <notreally@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> bandmama wrote:
>>> i cannot find any registry cleaner that will work on my vista
>>> system. i have tried several so far. they will find the problems
>>> but will not delete them. i also noticed that at the end of the
>>> scan it will say " volitile enviroment " i have no idea what this
>>> means. any ideas?
>>
>> You were inadvertently fortunate. Registry cleaners are snake oil,
>> dangerous, and unnecessary. If you don't know enough to work with
>> your registry by hand - and it is rarely necessary to do this - then
>> you most certainly should not use a registry cleaner.
>
> Damn, some guys just need to have pissing contests in this newsgroup.
> Tell you what kid, you be the doofus you are and 'work your Registry
> by hand', then you'll be here the next day whining you can't even boot
> into Windows.
>
> Unnecessary? That would be debateable. Decent Registry cleaners serve
> a useful purpose, for example they remove orphaned and widowed lines
> in your Registry that point to nowhere, they also can clean up after
> software that doesn't remove itself fully and good things like that.
> For some fool to suggest, oh I do it by hand, is just some clown on a
> a testosterone rush trying to look knowledgeable. Lot of that here.

I agree. Good registry cleaners are not dangerous and unless you are very
good and have lots of time, you will stay away from trying to clean it by
"hand". After lots of installs and uninstalls that would just be stupid to
try.

Ashampoo for Vista
Vista Manager
RegSupremePro

are just a few that work well in Vista.

RegSupreme Pro works fine in Vista.

"bandmama" <bandmama@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8C2EB52F-DC51-4B66-AEC4-6B6F761CD049@microsoft.com...
>i cannot find any registry cleaner that will work on my vista system. i
>have
> tried several so far. they will find the problems but will not delete
> them. i
> also noticed that at the end of the scan it will say " volitile enviroment
> "
> i have no idea what this means. any ideas?

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:40:42 -0700, "LG" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 05:34:34 -0700, Malke <notreally@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> bandmama wrote:
>>>> i cannot find any registry cleaner that will work on my vista
>>>> system. i have tried several so far. they will find the problems
>>>> but will not delete them. i also noticed that at the end of the
>>>> scan it will say " volitile enviroment " i have no idea what this
>>>> means. any ideas?
>>>
>>> You were inadvertently fortunate. Registry cleaners are snake oil,
>>> dangerous, and unnecessary. If you don't know enough to work with
>>> your registry by hand - and it is rarely necessary to do this - then
>>> you most certainly should not use a registry cleaner.
>>
>> Damn, some guys just need to have pissing contests in this newsgroup.
>> Tell you what kid, you be the doofus you are and 'work your Registry
>> by hand', then you'll be here the next day whining you can't even boot
>> into Windows.
>>
>> Unnecessary? That would be debateable. Decent Registry cleaners serve
>> a useful purpose, for example they remove orphaned and widowed lines
>> in your Registry that point to nowhere, they also can clean up after
>> software that doesn't remove itself fully and good things like that.
>> For some fool to suggest, oh I do it by hand, is just some clown on a
>> a testosterone rush trying to look knowledgeable. Lot of that here.
>
>I agree. Good registry cleaners are not dangerous and unless you are very
>good and have lots of time, you will stay away from trying to clean it by
>"hand". After lots of installs and uninstalls that would just be stupid to
>try.
>
>Ashampoo for Vista
>Vista Manager
>RegSupremePro
>
>are just a few that work well in Vista.

Thanks, have to check those out. The only caution I would add is if
anybody uses a Registry Cleaner best not to let it automatically just
clean all the stuff it finds and says is bad. Most applications let
you expand the list and look at the details. Only once you know what
it is getting ready to delete and agree should you let it go ahead.
Also most applicatoins let your backup the Registry first. You should.
There is a hidden version of the Registry, or is it two? hidden
somewhere, but Vista may or may not find those if the main one gets
trashed so bad it can't boot to the point you can access the backup
registry.

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:51:20 -0400, "Mike" <jmgsjunkmail@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Registry Mechanic works fine for me on Vista Business.
>Mike

Same here with Home Premium. It also has the option to create a
restore point prior to cleaning the registry.
Dave