Speed differences between 32-bit and 64-bit Vista?

Hi.

Since I installed both 32-bit and 64-bit Vista Ultimate Edition on my
old test machine (ASUS K8V SE Deluxe, Athlon 64 3200+ [754 CPU], 512 MB
of RAM, SATA HDD, etc.), I notice the speeds are identical. I can't see
and feel any improvements. I did install the ATI Radeon 9600 AIW drivers
to help the video speed, but I just don't see the speed differences. Am
I expecting too much or missing something? I don't have any other
program installed so far. It's just a bare Vista with the latest ATI/AMD
video drivers from ati.com/amd.com.

Thank you in advance.
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x64 doesn't run faster. Clockspeed is determined by the hardware.
Performance would increase if you up the ram to 1GB.

"Phillip Pi" <phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC> wrote in message
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> Hi.
>
> Since I installed both 32-bit and 64-bit Vista Ultimate Edition on my old
> test machine (ASUS K8V SE Deluxe, Athlon 64 3200+ [754 CPU], 512 MB of
> RAM, SATA HDD, etc.), I notice the speeds are identical. I can't see and
> feel any improvements. I did install the ATI Radeon 9600 AIW drivers to
> help the video speed, but I just don't see the speed differences. Am I
> expecting too much or missing something? I don't have any other program
> installed so far. It's just a bare Vista with the latest ATI/AMD video
> drivers from ati.com/amd.com.
>
> Thank you in advance.
> --
> Phillip Pi
> Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
> ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
> Symantec Corporation
> www.symantec.com
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> Email: phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC (remove SYMC to reply by e-mail)
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You won't see any difference while running 32-bit programs.
You will only see a significant improvement in programs
written for the 64-bit environment. Panorama Factory,
http://www.panoramafactory.com/ used to have a comparison
between 32-bit and 64-bit, but I couldn't find it just now.


Phillip Pi wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Since I installed both 32-bit and 64-bit Vista Ultimate Edition on my
> old test machine (ASUS K8V SE Deluxe, Athlon 64 3200+ [754 CPU], 512 MB
> of RAM, SATA HDD, etc.), I notice the speeds are identical. I can't see
> and feel any improvements. I did install the ATI Radeon 9600 AIW drivers
> to help the video speed, but I just don't see the speed differences. Am
> I expecting too much or missing something? I don't have any other
> program installed so far. It's just a bare Vista with the latest ATI/AMD
> video drivers from ati.com/amd.com.
>
> Thank you in advance.

Aren't all the default Vista programs 64-bit? Or are they still in 32-bit?


On 12/28/2006 3:45 AM PT, Theo wrote:

> You won't see any difference while running 32-bit programs. You will
> only see a significant improvement in programs written for the 64-bit
> environment. Panorama Factory, http://www.panoramafactory.com/ used to
> have a comparison between 32-bit and 64-bit, but I couldn't find it just
> now.
>
>
> Phillip Pi wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Since I installed both 32-bit and 64-bit Vista Ultimate Edition on my
>> old test machine (ASUS K8V SE Deluxe, Athlon 64 3200+ [754 CPU], 512
>> MB of RAM, SATA HDD, etc.), I notice the speeds are identical. I can't
>> see and feel any improvements. I did install the ATI Radeon 9600 AIW
>> drivers to help the video speed, but I just don't see the speed
>> differences. Am I expecting too much or missing something? I don't
>> have any other program installed so far. It's just a bare Vista with
>> the latest ATI/AMD video drivers from ati.com/amd.com.
>>
>> Thank you in advance.


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Symantec Corporation
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The bundled programs can be either. The kernel is 64bit.

"Phillip Pi" <phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC> wrote in message
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> Aren't all the default Vista programs 64-bit? Or are they still in 32-bit?
>

Ah. Hmm, maybe that's why I can't feel/see the differences.


On 12/28/2006 12:36 PM PT, Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> The bundled programs can be either. The kernel is 64bit.
>
> "Phillip Pi" <phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC> wrote in message
> news:4594298B.9050507@symantec.comSYMC...
>> Aren't all the default Vista programs 64-bit? Or are they still in
>> 32-bit?
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ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
Symantec Corporation
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The clock speed is the same so you would not see differences. Performance
of either platform on a 64bit cpu is a matter of the hardware. Where you
would see a difference is between running a 32bit OS on a 32bit system
versus a 64bit system. The increased efficiency (head room) on a 64bit
system will benefit the 32bit OS in varying degrees.

"Phillip Pi" <phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC> wrote in message
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> Ah. Hmm, maybe that's why I can't feel/see the differences.
>
>

Are you saying if I had a dual core Athlon 64 939/AM2 setup, I would
notice the performance differences on the same box?


On 12/28/2006 12:58 PM PT, Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> The clock speed is the same so you would not see differences.
> Performance of either platform on a 64bit cpu is a matter of the
> hardware. Where you would see a difference is between running a 32bit
> OS on a 32bit system versus a 64bit system. The increased efficiency
> (head room) on a 64bit system will benefit the 32bit OS in varying degrees.
>
> "Phillip Pi" <phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC> wrote in message
> news:elizbDsKHHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Ah. Hmm, maybe that's why I can't feel/see the differences.
--
Phillip Pi
Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
Symantec Corporation
www.symantec.com
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Where it's really going to make a difference is when you go beyond the 4GB
limit on the 32-bit Vista. Even Home Basic will support 8GB on x64 and Vista
Ultimate x64 will support up to 128GB.

I know this sounds like overkill today but you can bet you right index
finger software makers will figure out a way to use up every bit as quick as
prices fall enough for people to realistically purchase it. I wouldn't be at
all surprised to see mid-level desktop systems with 2-4GB installed and
supporting 16-32GB on sale this time next year.

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
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> x64 doesn't run faster. Clockspeed is determined by the hardware.
> Performance would increase if you up the ram to 1GB.
>
> "Phillip Pi" <phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC> wrote in message
> news:eeRXvMjKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi.
>>
>> Since I installed both 32-bit and 64-bit Vista Ultimate Edition on my old
>> test machine (ASUS K8V SE Deluxe, Athlon 64 3200+ [754 CPU], 512 MB of
>> RAM, SATA HDD, etc.), I notice the speeds are identical. I can't see and
>> feel any improvements. I did install the ATI Radeon 9600 AIW drivers to
>> help the video speed, but I just don't see the speed differences. Am I
>> expecting too much or missing something? I don't have any other program
>> installed so far. It's just a bare Vista with the latest ATI/AMD video
>> drivers from ati.com/amd.com.
>>

Performance differences between what?

"Phillip Pi" <phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC> wrote in message
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> Are you saying if I had a dual core Athlon 64 939/AM2 setup, I would
> notice the performance differences on the same box?
>
>
> On 12/28/2006 12:58 PM PT, Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>
>> The clock speed is the same so you would not see differences.
>> Performance of either platform on a 64bit cpu is a matter of the
>> hardware. Where you would see a difference is between running a 32bit OS
>> on a 32bit system versus a 64bit system. The increased efficiency (head
>> room) on a 64bit system will benefit the 32bit OS in varying degrees.
>>
>> "Phillip Pi" <phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC> wrote in message
>> news:elizbDsKHHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Ah. Hmm, maybe that's why I can't feel/see the differences.
> --
> Phillip Pi
> Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
> ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
> Symantec Corporation
> www.symantec.com
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