Dual Boot XP/Vista - any known problems with Vista interfering with XP MBR?

Dual Booting XP Pro (SP2)/Vista Ultimate with VistaBoot Pro. Know about the
problems relating to XP destroying restore points in Vista, but has anyone
experienced problems the other way around (i.e. Vista (or Vista BootPro)
messing with the XP MBR (or similar))?

Clean installed retail Vista a few days ago, and every day since I have had
to do a system restore before I could get XP to boot but no problems with
restarts during the day, just when I start up first thing. Have been using
RC1 & RC2 without any problems until now.

It's starting to become a PITA, but cannot avoid the dual boot as I have
essential legacy software that will not run under Vista or VPC2007

Anyone any suggestions?


Geoff

Geoff I've been dual booting Win XP Pro and Vista Ultimate since January
2006 when Vista was in early beta and have never had any problems. When
Vista went RTM (release to manufacturer) I used VistaBootPro to remove the
Vista bootloader then uninstalled the RC2 and installed the retail version
of Vista Ultimate. As soon as that was done and everything was activated and
working correctly I imaged my drive and, when necessary, i have used that
backup image ever since. In fact, i re-imaged the drive on Sunday because
i'd installed Longhorn Server beta to create a triple boot and Server messed
up my anti virus by turning it off. Even triple booting with XP Vista and
Longhorn Server didn't cause any boot problems.

--
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Windows - Shell/User

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"Geoff" <geoffpughINhouseofstephanieDOTcoDOTuk> wrote in message
news:uCAy6Z7bHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Dual Booting XP Pro (SP2)/Vista Ultimate with VistaBoot Pro. Know about
> the problems relating to XP destroying restore points in Vista, but has
> anyone experienced problems the other way around (i.e. Vista (or Vista
> BootPro) messing with the XP MBR (or similar))?
>
> Clean installed retail Vista a few days ago, and every day since I have
> had to do a system restore before I could get XP to boot but no problems
> with restarts during the day, just when I start up first thing. Have been
> using RC1 & RC2 without any problems until now.
>
> It's starting to become a PITA, but cannot avoid the dual boot as I have
> essential legacy software that will not run under Vista or VPC2007
>
> Anyone any suggestions?
>
>
> Geoff
>

Shouldn't it be up to the MVPs to do this?


"jim" <-> wrote in message news:4607ec86@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>I would suggest you file a bug complaint about the
> dual boot - restore point eating bug to microsoft...
>
> if perhaps every single person on this globe even the linux and mac users
> complain about it, then perhaps, perhaps
> microsoft will get its a** off its snobish little throne
> and fix this problem.
>
> Currently this bug has been reported to them again and again and again and
> again and again and again and again and again and again and again and
> again and again and again
> but they just ignore it....
>
> Heck you want microsft to be compatible with 3rd party
> applications? It cant even be compatible with its own products!
>
>
> "Geoff" <geoffpughINhouseofstephanieDOTcoDOTuk> wrote in message
> news:uCAy6Z7bHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Dual Booting XP Pro (SP2)/Vista Ultimate with VistaBoot Pro. Know about
>> the problems relating to XP destroying restore points in Vista, but has
>> anyone experienced problems the other way around (i.e. Vista (or Vista
>> BootPro) messing with the XP MBR (or similar))?
>>
>> Clean installed retail Vista a few days ago, and every day since I have
>> had to do a system restore before I could get XP to boot but no problems
>> with restarts during the day, just when I start up first thing. Have been
>> using RC1 & RC2 without any problems until now.
>>
>> It's starting to become a PITA, but cannot avoid the dual boot as I have
>> essential legacy software that will not run under Vista or VPC2007
>>
>> Anyone any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>

Why would you think so?

"Malcolm H" <malcolmh@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OfgN9C8bHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Shouldn't it be up to the MVPs to do this?
|
|

Thanks. This is exactly what I've done (apart from imaging the drive). It
may be a coincidental hardware problem but I don't like coincidences
especially as the problem only reared its head after installing RTM. I
started using RC1/RC2 in May 2006 and apart from early problems with the
modified NTFS and Acronis Disk Director, until now have had no problems with
Vista or XP, and apart from my legacy software not running, am more than
happy with Vista.

It might not be significant but one major difference between my various beta
instals and the RTM instal, that I had not thought about until now, is that
on previous instals, without exception, Vista always defaulted to being the
C: Drive, this instal has not; all drives have exactly the same mapping as
in XP (i.e. XP = C: Drive, Vista = D: Drive etc.) - could this indicate a
problem with the instal ?

Geoff

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:eQU98p7bHHA.3648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Geoff I've been dual booting Win XP Pro and Vista Ultimate since January
> 2006 when Vista was in early beta and have never had any problems. When
> Vista went RTM (release to manufacturer) I used VistaBootPro to remove the
> Vista bootloader then uninstalled the RC2 and installed the retail version
> of Vista Ultimate. As soon as that was done and everything was activated
> and working correctly I imaged my drive and, when necessary, i have used
> that backup image ever since. In fact, i re-imaged the drive on Sunday
> because i'd installed Longhorn Server beta to create a triple boot and
> Server messed up my anti virus by turning it off. Even triple booting with
> XP Vista and Longhorn Server didn't cause any boot problems.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> this mail/post..
>
> "Geoff" <geoffpughINhouseofstephanieDOTcoDOTuk> wrote in message
> news:uCAy6Z7bHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Dual Booting XP Pro (SP2)/Vista Ultimate with VistaBoot Pro. Know about
>> the problems relating to XP destroying restore points in Vista, but has
>> anyone experienced problems the other way around (i.e. Vista (or Vista
>> BootPro) messing with the XP MBR (or similar))?
>>
>> Clean installed retail Vista a few days ago, and every day since I have
>> had to do a system restore before I could get XP to boot but no problems
>> with restarts during the day, just when I start up first thing. Have been
>> using RC1 & RC2 without any problems until now.
>>
>> It's starting to become a PITA, but cannot avoid the dual boot as I have
>> essential legacy software that will not run under Vista or VPC2007
>>
>> Anyone any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>

I would gladly file a bug report myself but after trawling the MS web pages
it is not clear to me how to do it. In any case I am merely a frustrated
customer not a 'Most Valued Professional' !

Surely reports from people with specific credentials and experience in the
field should carry more weight with MS hopefully resulting in corrective
action?

Malcolm H


"Tom Willett" <tompepper@mvps.invalid> wrote in message
news:uhMaJH8bHHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Why would you think so?
>
> "Malcolm H" <malcolmh@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OfgN9C8bHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | Shouldn't it be up to the MVPs to do this?
> |
> |
>
>

I too have a similar dual boot setup and am experiencing XP removing restore
points in Vista.

Please can you elaborate on your solution. What is VistaBootPro and what is
RC2?

I have Vista Home Premium (OEM version)

Thanks

Malcolm H

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:eQU98p7bHHA.3648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Geoff I've been dual booting Win XP Pro and Vista Ultimate since January
> 2006 when Vista was in early beta and have never had any problems. When
> Vista went RTM (release to manufacturer) I used VistaBootPro to remove the
> Vista bootloader then uninstalled the RC2 and installed the retail version
> of Vista Ultimate. As soon as that was done and everything was activated
> and working correctly I imaged my drive and, when necessary, i have used
> that backup image ever since. In fact, i re-imaged the drive on Sunday
> because i'd installed Longhorn Server beta to create a triple boot and
> Server messed up my anti virus by turning it off. Even triple booting with
> XP Vista and Longhorn Server didn't cause any boot problems.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> this mail/post..
>
> "Geoff" <geoffpughINhouseofstephanieDOTcoDOTuk> wrote in message
> news:uCAy6Z7bHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Dual Booting XP Pro (SP2)/Vista Ultimate with VistaBoot Pro. Know about
>> the problems relating to XP destroying restore points in Vista, but has
>> anyone experienced problems the other way around (i.e. Vista (or Vista
>> BootPro) messing with the XP MBR (or similar))?
>>
>> Clean installed retail Vista a few days ago, and every day since I have
>> had to do a system restore before I could get XP to boot but no problems
>> with restarts during the day, just when I start up first thing. Have been
>> using RC1 & RC2 without any problems until now.
>>
>> It's starting to become a PITA, but cannot avoid the dual boot as I have
>> essential legacy software that will not run under Vista or VPC2007
>>
>> Anyone any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>

I would suggest you file a bug complaint about the
dual boot - restore point eating bug to microsoft...

if perhaps every single person on this globe even the linux and mac users
complain about it, then perhaps, perhaps
microsoft will get its a** off its snobish little throne
and fix this problem.

Currently this bug has been reported to them again and again and again and
again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again
and again and again
but they just ignore it....

Heck you want microsft to be compatible with 3rd party
applications? It cant even be compatible with its own products!


"Geoff" <geoffpughINhouseofstephanieDOTcoDOTuk> wrote in message
news:uCAy6Z7bHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Dual Booting XP Pro (SP2)/Vista Ultimate with VistaBoot Pro. Know about
> the problems relating to XP destroying restore points in Vista, but has
> anyone experienced problems the other way around (i.e. Vista (or Vista
> BootPro) messing with the XP MBR (or similar))?
>
> Clean installed retail Vista a few days ago, and every day since I have
> had to do a system restore before I could get XP to boot but no problems
> with restarts during the day, just when I start up first thing. Have been
> using RC1 & RC2 without any problems until now.
>
> It's starting to become a PITA, but cannot avoid the dual boot as I have
> essential legacy software that will not run under Vista or VPC2007
>
> Anyone any suggestions?
>
>
> Geoff
>

"Malcolm H" <malcolmh@nospam.com> wrote in message news:eoeZr47bHHA.260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
:I too have a similar dual boot setup and am experiencing XP removing restore
: points in Vista.
:
: Please can you elaborate on your solution. What is VistaBootPro and what is
: RC2?
:
: I have Vista Home Premium (OEM version)

----
System Restore Dual Boot XP/Vista
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html

VistaBootPro
http://www.vistabootpro.org/

RC2 was beta version Vista(Release Canidate 2)

They haven't ignored it, Jim. They simple will not fix it because it
requires to much code alteration in Windows XP

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..

"jim" <-> wrote in message news:4607ec86@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>I would suggest you file a bug complaint about the
> dual boot - restore point eating bug to microsoft...
>
> if perhaps every single person on this globe even the linux and mac users
> complain about it, then perhaps, perhaps
> microsoft will get its a** off its snobish little throne
> and fix this problem.
>
> Currently this bug has been reported to them again and again and again and
> again and again and again and again and again and again and again and
> again and again and again
> but they just ignore it....
>
> Heck you want microsft to be compatible with 3rd party
> applications? It cant even be compatible with its own products!
>
>
> "Geoff" <geoffpughINhouseofstephanieDOTcoDOTuk> wrote in message
> news:uCAy6Z7bHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Dual Booting XP Pro (SP2)/Vista Ultimate with VistaBoot Pro. Know about
>> the problems relating to XP destroying restore points in Vista, but has
>> anyone experienced problems the other way around (i.e. Vista (or Vista
>> BootPro) messing with the XP MBR (or similar))?
>>
>> Clean installed retail Vista a few days ago, and every day since I have
>> had to do a system restore before I could get XP to boot but no problems
>> with restarts during the day, just when I start up first thing. Have been
>> using RC1 & RC2 without any problems until now.
>>
>> It's starting to become a PITA, but cannot avoid the dual boot as I have
>> essential legacy software that will not run under Vista or VPC2007
>>
>> Anyone any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>