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Re: [News] Many Lies About Wine Debunked

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Old 07-27-2008
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Re: Windows Developers MUST write software for WINE 1.0 Compliance
> If you then add dual core or quad core then you get 2x and 4x speed
> improvement of business critical applications.


heh .. sounds like an OLD Apple computer marketing escapee ..


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Old 07-27-2008
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Re: [News] Many Lies About Wine Debunked
> Gary M Stewart (pseudonym "Goldfarb") is just try to harass other
> newsgroup.
> Simply ignore or killfile those posts.


Chutzpah ...
You'd know all about this tactic


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Old 07-27-2008
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Re: [News] Many Lies About Wine Debunked

> Who on earth told you this nonsense?



It blooms in the brains of these nonsensees magically it seems.
Not to worry, natural selection leaves these fabulist standing alone in the
night on the edges of windblown precipices, blinking endlessly at where
their fate has taken them.


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Old 07-28-2008
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Re: [News] Many Lies About Wine Debunked

"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1x6lm0wnpsd90.1odv6xp4s6sfo$.dlg@40tude.net.. .

> 15+ years and still the website says not for mission critical

applications.
> That says it all.


As opposed to the typical Microsoft EULA that promises you
ab-so-freakin-lutely nothing but maybe your money back if your program does
nothing but crash (IF you can cajole your retailer into it -- Microsoft will
do nothing for you in such a case if they refuse).

I tried installing the Windows version of Firefox 3.0 under Wine on Hardy.
You'd think an application of that complexity would have big trouble under
Wine, and keep in mind that Firefox has no reason at all to target Wine
since it is also deployed in a Linux flavor. The silly thing just WORKED,
and was even noticeably peppier than its counterpart running on Gen-u-wine
Windoze on the same machine.



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Old 07-28-2008
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Re: [News] Many Lies About Wine Debunked
The only app that I may possibly want to use under WINE, is Internet
Explorer version 7. (to check website compatibility).

Is there anyone who was able to successfully install it under WINE?

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Old 07-28-2008
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Re: [News] Many Lies About Wine Debunked
Ignoramus9959 <ignoramus9959@NOSPAM.9959.invalid> writes:

> The only app that I may possibly want to use under WINE, is Internet
> Explorer version 7. (to check website compatibility).
>
> Is there anyone who was able to successfully install it under WINE?
>
> i


Just use ie4linux

Failing that, check out browsershots.org

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Old 07-28-2008
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Re: [News] Many Lies About Wine Debunked
On 2008-07-28, Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus9959 <ignoramus9959@NOSPAM.9959.invalid> writes:
>
>> The only app that I may possibly want to use under WINE, is Internet
>> Explorer version 7. (to check website compatibility).
>>
>> Is there anyone who was able to successfully install it under WINE?
>>
>> i

>
> Just use ie4linux


It does not work.

BLING::~/archive/software/ies4linux-2.99.0.1==>ls
LICENSE README ies4linux lang lib mac ui winereg
BLING::~/archive/software/ies4linux-2.99.0.1==>./ies4linux
IEs4Linux 2 is developed to be used with recent Wine versions (0.9.x). It seems that you are using an old version. It's recommended that you update your wine to the latest version (Go to: winehq.com).

grep: : No such file or directory

Gtk-ERROR **: Unknown segment type: (null)
aborting...
ui/pygtk/python-gtk.sh: line 6: 21454 Aborted python "$IES4LINUX"/ui/pygtk/ies4linux-gtk.py
BLING::~/archive/software/ies4linux-2.99.0.1==>

BLING::~==>wine --version
wine-1.0

> Failing that, check out browsershots.org


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Re: [News] Many Lies About Wine Debunked
On 2008-07-28, Ignoramus9959 <ignoramus9959@NOSPAM.9959.invalid> wrote:
> On 2008-07-28, Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Ignoramus9959 <ignoramus9959@NOSPAM.9959.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> The only app that I may possibly want to use under WINE, is Internet
>>> Explorer version 7. (to check website compatibility).
>>>
>>> Is there anyone who was able to successfully install it under WINE?
>>>
>>> i

>>
>> Just use ie4linux

>
> It does not work.
>
> BLING::~/archive/software/ies4linux-2.99.0.1==>ls
> LICENSE README ies4linux lang lib mac ui winereg
> BLING::~/archive/software/ies4linux-2.99.0.1==>./ies4linux
> IEs4Linux 2 is developed to be used with recent Wine versions (0.9.x). It seems that you are using an old version. It's recommended that you update your wine to the latest version (Go to: winehq.com).
>
> grep: : No such file or directory
>
> Gtk-ERROR **: Unknown segment type: (null)
> aborting...
> ui/pygtk/python-gtk.sh: line 6: 21454 Aborted python "$IES4LINUX"/ui/pygtk/ies4linux-gtk.py
> BLING::~/archive/software/ies4linux-2.99.0.1==>
>
> BLING::~==>wine --version
> wine-1.0
>


When I ran it the second time, it did work.

I am very happy. I wish it was IE7, but even IE6 is a big help.

Thank you.

I do not feel that I need to use any Windows software in general, but
I need IE for compatibility testing.
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Old 07-28-2008
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Re: [News] Many Lies About Wine Debunked
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Charlie Tame
<charlie@tames.net>
wrote
on Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:09:19 -0500
<uPsy7n#7IHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>:
> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:41:01 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Debunking the Debunked WINE Myths
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | Myth 1: "Wine is slow because it is an emulator"

>>
>> Wine is slow because it is WINE and not native Microsoft code.

>
>
>
> Please explain what Microsoft Native Code is?


Microsoft Native Code is code that is run natively using approved
versions of Microsoft Windows(tm).

Except that it isn't. It gets complicated, but all
user-level processes in Microsoft Windows and in Linux
run in emulated hardware, at least as far as the virtual
addressing and illegal instructions are concerned.

WinE emulation will of course extract some performance
because it is not communicating with the device natively.
This performance will not be felt by those using
CPU-intensive tasks, unless said tasks are heavily
utilizing the Win32 et al API.

>
> Which CPU is made by Microsoft?


s/made/approved/

That would be iNtel.

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