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Old 02-28-2007
lee black
 

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Vista (Dual Boot)
Hi
I have installed vista as a dual boot alongside XP.
XP boots from my "c"Drive and Vista from my "d"Drive, i know want to remove
XP and make Vista run from my "c"Drive, can this be done without
re-installing? Or can i remove XP and treat my "d" Drive as the primary
drive and still run Vista

Thank you in advance

Regards

Lee

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Old 02-28-2007
John Whitworth
 

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Re: Vista (Dual Boot)
No. You are using C: as your active partition, and this is where your boot
configuration resides. There is no way that you are going to be able to move
an OS across drives like that.

Why are you so desperate to say goodbye to XP so quickly?

JW

"lee black" <leeb9972@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:E87EA69B-7351-48CA-8805-52C5B2285AC8@microsoft.com...
> Hi
> I have installed vista as a dual boot alongside XP.
> XP boots from my "c"Drive and Vista from my "d"Drive, i know want to
> remove XP and make Vista run from my "c"Drive, can this be done without
> re-installing? Or can i remove XP and treat my "d" Drive as the primary
> drive and still run Vista
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Regards
>
> Lee



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Old 02-28-2007
Colin Barnhorst
 

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Re: Vista (Dual Boot)
For starters, it's not healthy for Vista to dual boot XP and Vista. The OP
would be better advised to just install Vista and forget XP if that's where
he wants to go anyway.

"John Whitworth" <sexyjw@gEEEEEEEEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:OESWVDJJHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> No. You are using C: as your active partition, and this is where your boot
> configuration resides. There is no way that you are going to be able to
> move an OS across drives like that.
>
> Why are you so desperate to say goodbye to XP so quickly?
>
> JW
>


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Old 02-28-2007
Scott
 

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Re: Vista (Dual Boot)
Colin Barnhorst spake thusly on 12/20/2006 5:47 PM:
> For starters, it's not healthy for Vista to dual boot XP and Vista. The
> OP would be better advised to just install Vista and forget XP if that's
> where he wants to go anyway.


And what makes it "Not Healthy"?

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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Old 02-28-2007
Colin Barnhorst
 

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Re: Vista (Dual Boot)
You lose Vista system restore points and other VSS files due to an
incompatibility between the XP and Vista volsnap.sys (VSS driver). This is
a known issue and will not be fixed. Do a search on "volsnap.sys" on this
ng for details.

"Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote in message
news:MTsih.21636$uj7.13047@fe01.news.easynews.com. ..
> Colin Barnhorst spake thusly on 12/20/2006 5:47 PM:
>> For starters, it's not healthy for Vista to dual boot XP and Vista. The
>> OP would be better advised to just install Vista and forget XP if that's
>> where he wants to go anyway.

>
> And what makes it "Not Healthy"?
>
> --


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Old 02-28-2007
I.P. Nichols
 

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Re: Vista (Dual Boot)
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> You lose Vista system restore points and other VSS files due to an
> incompatibility between the XP and Vista volsnap.sys (VSS driver). This
> is a known issue and will not be fixed. Do a search on "volsnap.sys" on
> this ng for details.


See topic System Restore: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920928

"System Restore does not work until a new restore point is created. Shadow
copies of earlier versions of files are also affected...

Resolution
To make full use of the System Restore safety features when you restart from
a previous operating system to Windows Vista, we recommend that you manually
create a restore point."

>
> "Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote in message
> news:MTsih.21636$uj7.13047@fe01.news.easynews.com. ..
>> Colin Barnhorst spake thusly on 12/20/2006 5:47 PM:
>>> For starters, it's not healthy for Vista to dual boot XP and Vista. The
>>> OP would be better advised to just install Vista and forget XP if that's
>>> where he wants to go anyway.

>>
>> And what makes it "Not Healthy"?
>>
>> --

>


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Old 02-28-2007
Colin Barnhorst
 

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Re: Vista (Dual Boot)
The resolution does not help the user who was expecting to find his Vista
restore points, previous file versions, and so forth after having returned
to Vista from XP. I am pointing out that dual booting with XP will lead to
the loss of Vista VSS files. Every time. There is no resolution for that
unless the user hides the Vista volume from XP either with a third-party
boot manager or BitLocker. The kb tells the user how to get going again,
but not how to avert the disaster in the first place. Do not dual-boot XP
and Vista on a production computer without taking steps to protect your
valuable Vista files.

"I.P. Nichols" <NoSpan@nada.com> wrote in message
news:uqWxKlSJHHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> You lose Vista system restore points and other VSS files due to an
>> incompatibility between the XP and Vista volsnap.sys (VSS driver). This
>> is a known issue and will not be fixed. Do a search on "volsnap.sys" on
>> this ng for details.

>
> See topic System Restore: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920928
>
> "System Restore does not work until a new restore point is created. Shadow
> copies of earlier versions of files are also affected...
>
> Resolution
> To make full use of the System Restore safety features when you restart
> from a previous operating system to Windows Vista, we recommend that you
> manually create a restore point."
>


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Old 02-28-2007
CZ
 

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Re: Vista (Dual Boot)
>> For starters, it's not healthy for Vista to dual boot XP and Vista. The
>> OP

would be better advised to just install Vista and forget XP if that's where
he wants to go anyway.
>> You lose Vista system restore points and other VSS files due to an

incompatibility between the XP and Vista volsnap.sys (VSS driver). This is
a known issue and will not be fixed. Do a search on "volsnap.sys" on this
ng for details.

Colin:

IMO, it is healthy to use Vista to dual boot XP and Vista if you understand
the limitations.
I multiple boot between XP Home, XP Pro, Win2k3 server, and Vista without
any regrets.
Vista build 5744 is my main op system.




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Old 02-28-2007
Colin Barnhorst
 

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Re: Vista (Dual Boot)
Yes, if you know the implications. But folks should not give general advice
to dual boot without also providing the caveat. That would be a disservice.
I stand by the advice not to dual boot Vista and XP on a production or
primary computer without safeguarding your important files. I urge you to
move past the beta mentality about Vista for the sake of the many, many new
users who will be seeking advice here starting in February. They will all
be using Vista on production and primary home computers.

"CZ" <CZ@no99spam.com> wrote in message
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>>> For starters, it's not healthy for Vista to dual boot XP and Vista. The
>>> OP

> would be better advised to just install Vista and forget XP if that's
> where
> he wants to go anyway.
>>> You lose Vista system restore points and other VSS files due to an

> incompatibility between the XP and Vista volsnap.sys (VSS driver). This
> is
> a known issue and will not be fixed. Do a search on "volsnap.sys" on
> this
> ng for details.
>
> Colin:
>
> IMO, it is healthy to use Vista to dual boot XP and Vista if you
> understand the limitations.
> I multiple boot between XP Home, XP Pro, Win2k3 server, and Vista without
> any regrets.
> Vista build 5744 is my main op system.
>
>
>
>


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Old 02-28-2007
CZ
 

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Re: Vista (Dual Boot)
Colin:

To some extent we are saying the same thing.

There are two approaches to answering a NG question.

1) One approach is to make the decision for the user (e.g. just tell the
user what to do).

2) The other approach is to provide the user with information concerning the
limitations and support the user making the decision. This approach greatly
enhances the value of using Google to research an issue. An experienced
user can benefit from this approach, as well as an inexperienced user; an
experienced user may not benefit from the first approach.


An example:
Your initial response to OP:
"For starters, it's not healthy for Vista to dual boot XP and Vista. The OP
would be better advised to just install Vista and forget XP if that's where
he wants to go anyway.

Your response to a question about your initial response provided impt info
re: the limitations:
"You lose Vista system restore points and other VSS files due to an
incompatibility between the XP and Vista volsnap.sys (VSS driver). This is
a known issue and will not be fixed. Do a search on "volsnap.sys" on this
ng for details."

I would have said that you can use Vista to dual boot with XP, but there are
limitations, and then mention them in the same post.
Also, I would add that this loss only occurs if/when you boot into XP. If
you primarily use Vista (as I do), the impact can be negligible.
Note that I did not qualify my response as healthy or unhealthy.

Re: "I urge you to move past the beta mentality about Vista for the sake of
the many, many new users who will be seeking advice here starting in
February. They will all be using Vista on production and primary home
computers."

I am not sure what a "beta mentality" is, but know that I have been
dual/multiple booting since the NT based boot mgr was released (in NT
v3.5?). I used to dual boot Windows with Netware 3. There are excellent
reason to dual boot regardless of RTM or beta status of an op system. And,
IMO, the user (and a Google search) is best supported if the user is given
info for his/her decision.

Some of the new users you refer to will be experienced users in MS op
systems, but not in Vista. Using approach two will provide useful info for
them as well as support for the truly "inexperienced" user.

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