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Old 02-28-2007
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Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
I have a 3.2 on my AMD 3000, X800xl, 2 gig mem system. Not with some
benchmarks you can publish them and see what similar systems are getting. It
would be nice to see what similar systems are getting in order to see which
peice of hardare gets you the best experience per dollar. Even though my
legacy system - AGP is pretty much maxed out.
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Old 02-28-2007
Bob
 

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Re: Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
No you cannot. Check yout EULA.

"Phil" <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:76F973F2-64A8-4ABC-923A-762D5614E8AC@microsoft.com...
>I have a 3.2 on my AMD 3000, X800xl, 2 gig mem system. Not with some
> benchmarks you can publish them and see what similar systems are getting.
> It
> would be nice to see what similar systems are getting in order to see
> which
> peice of hardare gets you the best experience per dollar. Even though my
> legacy system - AGP is pretty much maxed out.



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Old 02-28-2007
Synapse Syndrome
 

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Re: Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
"Phil" <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:76F973F2-64A8-4ABC-923A-762D5614E8AC@microsoft.com...
>I have a 3.2 on my AMD 3000, X800xl, 2 gig mem system. Not with some
> benchmarks you can publish them and see what similar systems are getting.
> It
> would be nice to see what similar systems are getting in order to see
> which
> peice of hardare gets you the best experience per dollar. Even though my
> legacy system - AGP is pretty much maxed out.




Those ratings are just basic benchmarking. If you are serious about
benchmarking and comparing you should try PCMark05, which has been updated
to work on Vista. I have paid for the Advanced version, but I still haven't
got around to tweaking my new system for maximum performance.

http://www.futuremark.com/products/pcmark05/

ss.

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Old 02-28-2007
Robert Armand Hammer
 

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Re: Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
It is illegal to publish any vista benchmarking. check your eula.

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:eKV7fKFJHHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Phil" <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:76F973F2-64A8-4ABC-923A-762D5614E8AC@microsoft.com...
>>I have a 3.2 on my AMD 3000, X800xl, 2 gig mem system. Not with some
>> benchmarks you can publish them and see what similar systems are getting.
>> It
>> would be nice to see what similar systems are getting in order to see
>> which
>> peice of hardare gets you the best experience per dollar. Even though my
>> legacy system - AGP is pretty much maxed out.

>
>
>
> Those ratings are just basic benchmarking. If you are serious about
> benchmarking and comparing you should try PCMark05, which has been updated
> to work on Vista. I have paid for the Advanced version, but I still
> haven't got around to tweaking my new system for maximum performance.
>
> http://www.futuremark.com/products/pcmark05/
>
> ss.



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Old 02-28-2007
Mike
 

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Re: Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
"Robert Armand Hammer" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
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> It is illegal to publish any vista benchmarking. check your eula.


How would you know? It's "not available" therefore there can be no EULA.

Mike

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Old 02-28-2007
Toby Broom
 

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Re: Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
http://www.shareyourscore.com/


"Phil" <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:76F973F2-64A8-4ABC-923A-762D5614E8AC@microsoft.com...
>I have a 3.2 on my AMD 3000, X800xl, 2 gig mem system. Not with some
> benchmarks you can publish them and see what similar systems are getting.
> It
> would be nice to see what similar systems are getting in order to see
> which
> peice of hardare gets you the best experience per dollar. Even though my
> legacy system - AGP is pretty much maxed out.


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Old 02-28-2007
Robert Blacher
 

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Re: Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
Nice link but, oh my, it makes me realize a no-doubt unintended consequence
of WEI:

Manufacturers of components are going to figure out the WEI benchmark and
then "tweak" their products to deliver higher scores. A higher score on WEI
may mean higher sales but does not necessarily mean better performance in
"real world" applications.

In short, like the EPA sticker says: "Your mileage may vary."

It not only "may" -- we lawyers are soooooo expert at weasel words --- it
will!

MSFT is clearly smart enough to have realized this but decided to go ahead
with WEI anyway.

Should be interesting ....

Meanwhile, I'll browse the list of video cards that are giving 5.9 for
desktop performance .... :-}


"Toby Broom" <tjbroom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7621C017-6A3A-439A-BE38-4E39E48C9A59@microsoft.com...
> http://www.shareyourscore.com/
>
>
> "Phil" <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:76F973F2-64A8-4ABC-923A-762D5614E8AC@microsoft.com...
>>I have a 3.2 on my AMD 3000, X800xl, 2 gig mem system. Not with some
>> benchmarks you can publish them and see what similar systems are getting.
>> It
>> would be nice to see what similar systems are getting in order to see
>> which
>> peice of hardare gets you the best experience per dollar. Even though my
>> legacy system - AGP is pretty much maxed out.

>

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Old 02-28-2007
Dale
 

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Re: Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
This would be hardware benchmarking. Vista stays the same; the hardware
changes.

Dale

"Robert Armand Hammer" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
news:uLUqpfFJHHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> It is illegal to publish any vista benchmarking. check your eula.
>
> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
> news:eKV7fKFJHHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "Phil" <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:76F973F2-64A8-4ABC-923A-762D5614E8AC@microsoft.com...
>>>I have a 3.2 on my AMD 3000, X800xl, 2 gig mem system. Not with some
>>> benchmarks you can publish them and see what similar systems are
>>> getting. It
>>> would be nice to see what similar systems are getting in order to see
>>> which
>>> peice of hardare gets you the best experience per dollar. Even though my
>>> legacy system - AGP is pretty much maxed out.

>>
>>
>>
>> Those ratings are just basic benchmarking. If you are serious about
>> benchmarking and comparing you should try PCMark05, which has been
>> updated to work on Vista. I have paid for the Advanced version, but I
>> still haven't got around to tweaking my new system for maximum
>> performance.
>>
>> http://www.futuremark.com/products/pcmark05/
>>
>> ss.

>
>



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Old 02-28-2007
Lang Murphy
 

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Re: Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
Depends on how MS is measuring the WEI... When PC Mag first released their
Winstone benchmark to the world, video card makers figured out how to
compromise the video tests and get higher scores. PC Mag figured -that- out
and changed the benchmark code so that vid card makers could not achieve
"fake" high scores. Or something like that... memory fades over the years...

I am a firm believer in perceived performance. If a user perceives that
Vista is faster/slower/more filling/less filling, then it doesn't matter
what WEI or any benchmark says... although, just like at the race track, we
all want higher numbers. "I have a WEI of 5.x, my PC is better than yours."
LOL. The PC I'm writing this on... a Dell D820, has a WEI of 3.2. Works for
me.

Lang


"Robert Blacher" <rblacher@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:F846034B-4826-481B-9DCD-05DA27C1AA74@microsoft.com...
> Nice link but, oh my, it makes me realize a no-doubt unintended
> consequence of WEI:
>
> Manufacturers of components are going to figure out the WEI benchmark and
> then "tweak" their products to deliver higher scores. A higher score on
> WEI may mean higher sales but does not necessarily mean better performance
> in "real world" applications.
>
> In short, like the EPA sticker says: "Your mileage may vary."
>
> It not only "may" -- we lawyers are soooooo expert at weasel words --- it
> will!
>
> MSFT is clearly smart enough to have realized this but decided to go ahead
> with WEI anyway.
>
> Should be interesting ....
>
> Meanwhile, I'll browse the list of video cards that are giving 5.9 for
> desktop performance .... :-}
>
>
> "Toby Broom" <tjbroom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7621C017-6A3A-439A-BE38-4E39E48C9A59@microsoft.com...
>> http://www.shareyourscore.com/
>>
>>
>> "Phil" <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:76F973F2-64A8-4ABC-923A-762D5614E8AC@microsoft.com...
>>>I have a 3.2 on my AMD 3000, X800xl, 2 gig mem system. Not with some
>>> benchmarks you can publish them and see what similar systems are
>>> getting. It
>>> would be nice to see what similar systems are getting in order to see
>>> which
>>> peice of hardare gets you the best experience per dollar. Even though my
>>> legacy system - AGP is pretty much maxed out.

>>


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Old 02-28-2007
Jeff Gaines
 

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Re: Is there any place for comparing Windows Experience ratings.
On 21/12/2006 in message
<4785D293-2C67-4F21-AF85-B189A8939DB3@microsoft.com> Lang Murphy wrote:

>I am a firm believer in perceived performance. If a user perceives that
>Vista is faster/slower/more filling/less filling, then it doesn't matter
>what WEI or any benchmark says... although, just like at the race track,
>we all want higher numbers. "I have a WEI of 5.x, my PC is better than
>yours." LOL. The PC I'm writing this on... a Dell D820, has a WEI of 3.2.
>Works for me.


I believe during one of the early discussions at MS on this they were
going to call it the Windows Indicating Label of Lachrymatory Yield, on
the basis that having to admit to having a small WILLY would cause users
to cry.

--
Jeff Gaines
Damerham Hampshire UK
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