excrutiatingly slow laptop

Mick Murphy wrote:

> Marian, I came across this in my travels re this problem with new
> computers; but have not had time to try it out yet.
> I was wondering if you had seen reports on this(good or bad)?
>
> http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/

Please, call me Malke. We're friends! And it's my real name.

Yes, I've seen that and I've also seen something called Dell decrapifier or
the like. I've never used anything like that since I prefer to remove stuff
manually. Dell has gotten *much* better about allowing you to configure a
machine with almost no garbage on it at all.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

"lox2869" <lox2869@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have toshiba satellite 2gb ram 160gb harddrive vista home premium. I
> turned on my old desktop the other day - it has 128ram 3gb hard drive and
> windows ME (the worst Ive heard) and it performs 10 times faster than my
> new
> one. I have read lots of blogs on vista about it being slow but is it
> this
> slow or is something very wrong? I thought some of the problem was with
> dial
> up but i now have broadband and is no better. I dont know what programs
> etc
> to turn off as I dont know which ones are needed and which ones arent...am
> not very computer savvy when it comes to all that stuff.


New laptop? Format reload WITHOUT all of the addon crap like trial ware
antivirus...

Then load only the things you want...

Nice clean install makes for a nice machine...

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alt.alien.zyrix

ZÿRiX <org@net.com> wrote:

>"lox2869" <lox2869@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:2FB9AE8A-2E46-458F-9DEE-1D499EA84133@microsoft.com...
>>I have toshiba satellite 2gb ram 160gb harddrive vista home premium. I
>> turned on my old desktop the other day - it has 128ram 3gb hard drive and
>> windows ME (the worst Ive heard) and it performs 10 times faster than my
>> new
>> one. I have read lots of blogs on vista about it being slow but is it
>> this
>> slow or is something very wrong? I thought some of the problem was with
>> dial
>> up but i now have broadband and is no better. I dont know what programs
>> etc
>> to turn off as I dont know which ones are needed and which ones arent...am
>> not very computer savvy when it comes to all that stuff.
>
>
>New laptop? Format reload WITHOUT all of the addon crap like trial ware
>antivirus...
>
>Then load only the things you want...
>
>Nice clean install makes for a nice machine...

Moronic advice at best: nice clean install no doubt voids the
warranty.

Or the mfg may require restoration of the software to factory condition
before providing support for it. More likely that than just voiding the
warranty entirely.

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> ZÿRiX <org@net.com> wrote:
>
>>"lox2869" <lox2869@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:2FB9AE8A-2E46-458F-9DEE-1D499EA84133@microsoft.com...
>>>I have toshiba satellite 2gb ram 160gb harddrive vista home premium. I
>>> turned on my old desktop the other day - it has 128ram 3gb hard drive
>>> and
>>> windows ME (the worst Ive heard) and it performs 10 times faster than my
>>> new
>>> one. I have read lots of blogs on vista about it being slow but is it
>>> this
>>> slow or is something very wrong? I thought some of the problem was with
>>> dial
>>> up but i now have broadband and is no better. I dont know what programs
>>> etc
>>> to turn off as I dont know which ones are needed and which ones
>>> arent...am
>>> not very computer savvy when it comes to all that stuff.
>>
>>
>>New laptop? Format reload WITHOUT all of the addon crap like trial ware
>>antivirus...
>>
>>Then load only the things you want...
>>
>>Nice clean install makes for a nice machine...
>
> Moronic advice at best: nice clean install no doubt voids the
> warranty.

i just thought i would time it...it took 36 seconds for windows mail to open.
this is pretty normal for most applications...drives me crazy!!!! i have
never had so much grief with a computer ever. is frustrating, i got old
clunker for free, this one cost $2000. but wish i knew more about tech side
to rectfy. those people who say vista isnt slow must have a fluke or
something. lucky them. it is so disappointing...do microsoft listen at
all???
--
alo25mol23


"Malke" wrote:

> lox2869 wrote:
>
> > I have toshiba satellite 2gb ram 160gb harddrive vista home premium. I
> > turned on my old desktop the other day - it has 128ram 3gb hard drive and
> > windows ME (the worst Ive heard) and it performs 10 times faster than my
> > new
> > one. I have read lots of blogs on vista about it being slow but is it
> > this
> > slow or is something very wrong? I thought some of the problem was with
> > dial
> > up but i now have broadband and is no better. I dont know what programs
> > etc to turn off as I dont know which ones are needed and which ones
> > arent...am not very computer savvy when it comes to all that stuff.
>
> Toshiba is the worst offender for packing their computers with OEM garbage
> software, trial software, updaters, etc. Unless your machine is infected
> (which of course it could be), you will see a significant increase in speed
> by cleaning up your Startup matrix.
>
> If you are unsure about what to do, then either have a tech-savvy friend do
> it (although make sure the friend really *is* savvy and not just saying
> s/he is) or take the machine to a local computer professional. I don't
> suggest using a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
>

No fluke. When the hardware is right Vista flies. One bottleneck and none
of it flies. A bottleneck can be the hard drive controller driver,
mismatched memory (adding new ram with different latencies, etc), video
driver, or you name it. I had a balky system and it turned out to be a mobo
problem requiring an exchange.

"lox" <lox@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6FCEA785-3A02-4BE0-B760-575A2E20A00D@microsoft.com...
>i just thought i would time it...it took 36 seconds for windows mail to
>open.
> this is pretty normal for most applications...drives me crazy!!!! i have
> never had so much grief with a computer ever. is frustrating, i got old
> clunker for free, this one cost $2000. but wish i knew more about tech
> side
> to rectfy. those people who say vista isnt slow must have a fluke or
> something. lucky them. it is so disappointing...do microsoft listen at
> all???
> --
> alo25mol23
>
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
>> lox2869 wrote:
>>
>> > I have toshiba satellite 2gb ram 160gb harddrive vista home premium. I
>> > turned on my old desktop the other day - it has 128ram 3gb hard drive
>> > and
>> > windows ME (the worst Ive heard) and it performs 10 times faster than
>> > my
>> > new
>> > one. I have read lots of blogs on vista about it being slow but is it
>> > this
>> > slow or is something very wrong? I thought some of the problem was
>> > with
>> > dial
>> > up but i now have broadband and is no better. I dont know what
>> > programs
>> > etc to turn off as I dont know which ones are needed and which ones
>> > arent...am not very computer savvy when it comes to all that stuff.
>>
>> Toshiba is the worst offender for packing their computers with OEM
>> garbage
>> software, trial software, updaters, etc. Unless your machine is infected
>> (which of course it could be), you will see a significant increase in
>> speed
>> by cleaning up your Startup matrix.
>>
>> If you are unsure about what to do, then either have a tech-savvy friend
>> do
>> it (although make sure the friend really *is* savvy and not just saying
>> s/he is) or take the machine to a local computer professional. I don't
>> suggest using a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> MS-MVP
>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>>
>>