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Old 03-19-2007
Billy
 

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Acronis true image
Can I disable all the Acronis stuff from the startup? Acronis
trueimage/Timounter and Acronis/scheduler2 or something, I see it takes up
a bit of resources. If I do, can I still back up my computer when I start
the programme manually? I also ahve a lot of HP quickplay and NVIDEA Driver
for help centre and media library? I know I need to keep the compatible
driver starting up, but do i need the helper?

Thanks in advance

Billy

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Old 03-19-2007
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Re: Acronis true image
I have all the Acronis services disabled and manual backup works just fine.

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"Billy" <billynicol@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Can I disable all the Acronis stuff from the startup? Acronis
> trueimage/Timounter and Acronis/scheduler2 or something, I see it takes
> up a bit of resources. If I do, can I still back up my computer when I
> start the programme manually? I also ahve a lot of HP quickplay and
> NVIDEA Driver for help centre and media library? I know I need to keep
> the compatible driver starting up, but do i need the helper?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Billy


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Old 03-19-2007
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Re: Acronis true image
Thanks very much I will do this too.

have you used any image to reinstall? i wondered if maybe this woulda ffect
the using of the image?


Billy
"David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have all the Acronis services disabled and manual backup works just fine.
>
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> "Billy" <billynicol@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:en39tllaHHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Can I disable all the Acronis stuff from the startup? Acronis
>> trueimage/Timounter and Acronis/scheduler2 or something, I see it takes
>> up a bit of resources. If I do, can I still back up my computer when I
>> start the programme manually? I also ahve a lot of HP quickplay and
>> NVIDEA Driver for help centre and media library? I know I need to keep
>> the compatible driver starting up, but do i need the helper?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Billy

>


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Old 03-19-2007
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Re: Acronis true image
I don't see how it could effect a full recovery as that is done from boot
media and isn't dependant on Windows services. I haven't had any issues when
restoring individual files from an image.

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"Billy" <billynicol@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks very much I will do this too.
>
> have you used any image to reinstall? i wondered if maybe this woulda
> ffect the using of the image?
>
>
> Billy
> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:24FB05F6-1F2F-472D-9444-2D03AC4130E0@microsoft.com...
>>I have all the Acronis services disabled and manual backup works just
>>fine.
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> "Billy" <billynicol@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:en39tllaHHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Can I disable all the Acronis stuff from the startup? Acronis
>>> trueimage/Timounter and Acronis/scheduler2 or something, I see it takes
>>> up a bit of resources. If I do, can I still back up my computer when I
>>> start the programme manually? I also ahve a lot of HP quickplay and
>>> NVIDEA Driver for help centre and media library? I know I need to keep
>>> the compatible driver starting up, but do i need the helper?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Billy

>>

>


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Old 03-19-2007
Diamontina Cocktail
 

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Re: Acronis true image

"Billy" <billynicol@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Can I disable all the Acronis stuff from the startup? Acronis
> trueimage/Timounter and Acronis/scheduler2 or something, I see it takes
> up


It takes up next to nothing when the computer is running and it is there in
order for your computer to do its backup at the time you have told it to do
it. If you kill the process or not, it wont make any difference to your
computer.


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Old 03-20-2007
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Re: Acronis true image
"Diamontina Cocktail" <lrb@australia.com> wrote in message
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>
> It takes up next to nothing when the computer is running and it is there
> in order for your computer to do its backup at the time you have told it
> to do it. If you kill the process or not, it wont make any difference to
> your computer.
>

Yes, but there is a BIG difference between "next to nothing" and "absolutely
nothing."

I've gotten very tired of applications that insist on installing a half
dozen background services, start up applets and processes that do nothing
more than remind me that I bought a badly designed piece of code. Believe it
or not after a couple of dozen years of being a developer and system admin,
I can figure out for myself when I want to do a backup of my system. And for
the other 99.99% of the time, I don't need their software occupying any of
my system resources.

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Old 03-20-2007
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Re: Acronis true image

"Wrecklass" <wrecklass1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Diamontina Cocktail" <lrb@australia.com> wrote in message
> news:%23UD18jmaHHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> It takes up next to nothing when the computer is running and it is there
>> in order for your computer to do its backup at the time you have told it
>> to do it. If you kill the process or not, it wont make any difference to
>> your computer.
>>

> Yes, but there is a BIG difference between "next to nothing" and
> "absolutely nothing."
>


You have to be joking. You wont see any difference in the operation of your
machine.

> I've gotten very tired of applications that insist on installing a half
> dozen background services, start up applets and processes that do nothing
> more than remind me that I bought a badly designed piece of code. Believe
> it


That isnt True Image though. The items you see in Task Manager are there
because it provides for times backups. I have my backup go off once per day.
I dont know that I would remember, every single day, to do it.

> or not after a couple of dozen years of being a developer and system
> admin, I can figure out for myself when I want to do a backup of my
> system. And for


Famous last words, those ones. Just when the main drive dies completely and
nothing can be retrieved, you will be wracking your brain attempting to
remember the last time you backed up - or you could just let it go off
automatically. Any good Sysadmin has it all auto. Eg, some have wake on lan
set and others have to wake auto at a specific time set. Once woken, the
automatic backup is ready to go off at the required time and does so. At a
later time, the machine is told to shut down automatically. I have my own
machines at home automatically turn on about 5 minutes before I get out of
bed so that they are up and going before I need them. I could change that to
auto start up at a certain time, backup and auto shut down but the truth is
that I am rarely using them at 4:30PM so I set the auto backup for then. So,
when I need to restore from the backup, I know the last one was within 24
hours of the disaster.

> the other 99.99% of the time, I don't need their software occupying any of
> my system resources.


Go Linux then.

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Old 03-21-2007
wrecklass@gmail.com
 

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Re: Acronis true image
I do use Linux for my work related stuff. I hope I didn't lead you
to believe I would use Windows for anything important or even
remotely productive. I need a robust, secure system for work.
Windows is not a choice in that area. The previous company I worked
for wouldn't even allow Windows machines on the corporate network.

Windows is a gaming platform, pure and simple. Without DirectX there
wouldn't be a single reason to have Windows around that I can see,
and without DirectX 10 coming out next year, I don't think most of us
would be upgrading to Vista. I know I wouldn't have other than the
fact that the security software my company makes for Windows has to
be ported to Vista.

Do I notice a performance hit from software services running in
the background on my Windows box? You bet I do. The games I tend
to run use every bit of the system resources that are available.

On Mar 20, 2:48 pm, "Diamontina Cocktail" <l...@australia.com> wrote:
> "Wrecklass" <wreckla...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:OnuziKpaHHA.4520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> > "Diamontina Cocktail" <l...@australia.com> wrote in message
> >news:%23UD18jmaHHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>
> >> It takes up next to nothing when the computer is running and it is there
> >> in order for your computer to do its backup at the time you have told it
> >> to do it. If you kill the process or not, it wont make any difference to
> >> your computer.

>
> > Yes, but there is a BIG difference between "next to nothing" and
> > "absolutely nothing."

>
> You have to be joking. You wont see any difference in the operation of your
> machine.
>
> > I've gotten very tired of applications that insist on installing a half
> > dozen background services, start up applets and processes that do nothing
> > more than remind me that I bought a badly designed piece of code. Believe
> > it

>
> That isnt True Image though. The items you see in Task Manager are there
> because it provides for times backups. I have my backup go off once per day.
> I dont know that I would remember, every single day, to do it.
>
> > or not after a couple of dozen years of being a developer and system
> > admin, I can figure out for myself when I want to do a backup of my
> > system. And for

>
> Famous last words, those ones. Just when the main drive dies completely and
> nothing can be retrieved, you will be wracking your brain attempting to
> remember the last time you backed up - or you could just let it go off
> automatically. Any good Sysadmin has it all auto. Eg, some have wake on lan
> set and others have to wake auto at a specific time set. Once woken, the
> automatic backup is ready to go off at the required time and does so. At a
> later time, the machine is told to shut down automatically. I have my own
> machines at home automatically turn on about 5 minutes before I get out of
> bed so that they are up and going before I need them. I could change that to
> auto start up at a certain time, backup and auto shut down but the truth is
> that I am rarely using them at 4:30PM so I set the auto backup for then. So,
> when I need to restore from the backup, I know the last one was within 24
> hours of the disaster.
>
> > the other 99.99% of the time, I don't need their software occupying any of
> > my system resources.

>
> Go Linux then.



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Old 03-21-2007
Diamontina Cocktail
 

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Re: Acronis true image

I have already used True Image 10 to restore a Vista image. It works.

"David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I don't see how it could effect a full recovery as that is done from boot
>media and isn't dependant on Windows services. I haven't had any issues
>when restoring individual files from an image.
>
> --
>
> ----
> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
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> __________________________________________________ _______________________________
>
>
> "Billy" <billynicol@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:eukfiBmaHHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks very much I will do this too.
>>
>> have you used any image to reinstall? i wondered if maybe this woulda
>> ffect the using of the image?
>>
>>
>> Billy
>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:24FB05F6-1F2F-472D-9444-2D03AC4130E0@microsoft.com...
>>>I have all the Acronis services disabled and manual backup works just
>>>fine.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>> http://www.db-pc.com
>>> __________________________________________________ _______________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> "Billy" <billynicol@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:en39tllaHHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Can I disable all the Acronis stuff from the startup? Acronis
>>>> trueimage/Timounter and Acronis/scheduler2 or something, I see it
>>>> takes up a bit of resources. If I do, can I still back up my computer
>>>> when I start the programme manually? I also ahve a lot of HP quickplay
>>>> and NVIDEA Driver for help centre and media library? I know I need to
>>>> keep the compatible driver starting up, but do i need the helper?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Billy
>>>

>>

>


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Diamontina Cocktail
 

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<wrecklass@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I do use Linux for my work related stuff. I hope I didn't lead you
> to believe I would use Windows for anything important or even
> remotely productive. I need a robust, secure system for work.


I hear that crap all the time from Mac and non-Windows PC users. When I was
on XPSP2 I had a machine that was more stable than any Mac and I do a lot
with my machines, including testing things I have been told by users
attempting to make the machine crash or be able to enter the machine (or
other on the network) through some supposed insecurity to see if it
definitely IS possible. You can see that I really do leave myself open to
killing my setup by doing that sort of testing. I even test, irregularly, a
few different AV progs by using viruses etc I have stored to see if they are
keeping up with it (interestingly, there are at least 2 that no AV prog is
keeping up with nowadays and they are around 6 years old! So are AV progs
losing ground?). My XPSP2 just didnt crash without, as has happened, a
hardware problem. Sure, I dont believe it to be perfect but there hasnt been
a perfect OS written yet.

> Windows is not a choice in that area. The previous company I worked
> for wouldn't even allow Windows machines on the corporate network.


More fool them, really.

>
> Windows is a gaming platform, pure and simple. Without DirectX there


Yep, that is what the uninformed always say. Of course, the fact that
corporate environments USE Windows means they are wrong and you are right.

> wouldn't be a single reason to have Windows around that I can see,
> and without DirectX 10 coming out next year, I don't think most of us
> would be upgrading to Vista. I know I wouldn't have other than the
> fact that the security software my company makes for Windows has to
> be ported to Vista.
>


Why would we go to a company for Windows security, that doesnt use it? My
idea to keep up with Windows problems is that you should be swimming in the
same area as the person you think needs to be saved from being drowned. If
you are swimming in a local swimming pool as you are, while the user is in
the ocean, you wont really have much of a clue how to swim in the surf let
alone be anywhere near where they need you to be.

> Do I notice a performance hit from software services running in
> the background on my Windows box? You bet I do. The games I tend
> to run use every bit of the system resources that are available.
>


Sure there is a performance hit. There was when XP first came out, too. The
reality is that they seem to put all this stuff in that makes little
difference to most people until they upgrade then they cant do without it. I
was running a P3 600Mhz when XP came out and it was a huge difference to the
machine. XPSP2 running on a P4 3Ghz is easy on the machinery.

The long and short of it all is that many years ago, I used to love my Amiga
and think it had everything over PCs and Macs. It did initially. It was
doing in 1984 what Macs did only in B&W in 1987 and even then Macs didn't do
all the Amiga could do. PCs? Not even close. Eventually time cured all that.
You have to keep up with time. Sure, Linux has a place. I am not saying it
doesn't. All I am really saying is that you need to walk around with BOTH
your eyes open, not just your Linux eye. You get no depth of perception
using only one eye!

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