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Old 02-28-2007
John Whitworth
 

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Partition Lost...again...
OK...I've learnt my lesson with this now, but I'm keen to know the reason
why this is possible...

I have a valid Windows XP Pro SP2 installation, with all updates. Installed
Vista RC1 as a dual-boot. Updated everything...all running just perfectly.

I then decided to add a new partition using XP's disk management. Suddenly,
my Vista partition disappeared, and the new partition I'd just created
started at a point just after the absent Vista partition finished.

Is this something that has been fixed for RTM? Or will quite a few people be
getting a shock here? At a guess, I imagine that I need to create any new
partitions using Vista, once Vista has been installed...but that it is a
real pain!

Cheers

JW


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Old 02-28-2007
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
 

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Re: Partition Lost...again...
Neither XP or Vista have the ability to extra partitions in addition to what
you already have unless there is a sizeable amount of unallocated space on
your drive..

You have to use a program such as Acronis Disk Director or Partition Magic
in order to add partitions in the way that you want..


"John Whitworth" <sexyjw@gEEEEEEEEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23PMbd5cIHHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> OK...I've learnt my lesson with this now, but I'm keen to know the reason
> why this is possible...
>
> I have a valid Windows XP Pro SP2 installation, with all updates.
> Installed Vista RC1 as a dual-boot. Updated everything...all running just
> perfectly.
>
> I then decided to add a new partition using XP's disk management.
> Suddenly, my Vista partition disappeared, and the new partition I'd just
> created started at a point just after the absent Vista partition finished.
>
> Is this something that has been fixed for RTM? Or will quite a few people
> be getting a shock here? At a guess, I imagine that I need to create any
> new partitions using Vista, once Vista has been installed...but that it is
> a real pain!
>
> Cheers
>
> JW
>


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Old 02-28-2007
Richard Urban
 

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Re: Partition Lost...again...
Were you trying to add a new partition in unallocated available space.? How
large is the drive? How much unallocated space was available when you began
the process? What was the size of the partition you were trying to create?

You really give no information other than it didn't work.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"John Whitworth" <sexyjw@gEEEEEEEEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23PMbd5cIHHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> OK...I've learnt my lesson with this now, but I'm keen to know the reason
> why this is possible...
>
> I have a valid Windows XP Pro SP2 installation, with all updates.
> Installed Vista RC1 as a dual-boot. Updated everything...all running just
> perfectly.
>
> I then decided to add a new partition using XP's disk management.
> Suddenly, my Vista partition disappeared, and the new partition I'd just
> created started at a point just after the absent Vista partition finished.
>
> Is this something that has been fixed for RTM? Or will quite a few people
> be getting a shock here? At a guess, I imagine that I need to create any
> new partitions using Vista, once Vista has been installed...but that it is
> a real pain!
>
> Cheers
>
> JW
>


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Old 02-28-2007
John Whitworth
 

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Re: Partition Lost...again...

"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Neither XP or Vista have the ability to extra partitions in addition to
> what you already have unless there is a sizeable amount of unallocated
> space on your drive..


Hi Mike,

It was unallocated space.

John


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Old 02-28-2007
John Whitworth
 

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Re: Partition Lost...again...
Have provided more detail in reply to Richard Urban, below.

Thanks

John


"John Whitworth" <sexyjw@gEEEEEEEEEmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in
> message news:Od4GLcdIHHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Neither XP or Vista have the ability to extra partitions in addition to
>> what you already have unless there is a sizeable amount of unallocated
>> space on your drive..

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> It was unallocated space.
>
> John
>



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Old 02-28-2007
John Whitworth
 

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Re: Partition Lost...again...

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Were you trying to add a new partition in unallocated available space.?
> How large is the drive? How much unallocated space was available when you
> began the process? What was the size of the partition you were trying to
> create?
>
> You really give no information other than it didn't work.
>


Sorry.

My disk (Disk 0) (232.88GB) was set up like this:

Primary Partition
===========
Windows XP (C 34.18 GB NTFS Healthy (System)

Extended Partition containing...
=====================
Downloads (D 9.77GB NTFS Healthy
Programs (E 39.06GB NTFS Healthy
Games (I 34.18GB NTFS Healthy
Old Drive (H 29.29GB NTFS Healthy
86.40GB Free Space

I then installed Vista into 40GB of the free, unallocated space. All was
well, and I had another 46GB of free space remaining. So that my Disk 0
looked somewhat like this...

Primary Partition
===========
Windows XP (C 34.18 GB NTFS Healthy (System)

Extended Partition containing...
=====================
Downloads (D 9.77GB NTFS Healthy
Programs (E 39.06GB NTFS Healthy
Games (I 34.18GB NTFS Healthy
Old Drive (H 29.29GB NTFS Healthy
Vista (O 40GB [approx]
46.5GB [approx] Free Space

Both Vista and XP booted perfectly, and all was well, until I tried to
create a new 5GB partition for some application specific data, using Disk
Management in XP. Instead of the 5GB drive appearing after the Vista drive,
the Vista drive became "free space", whilst the new drive sat in between
that space, and the free space at the end of the disk. So it looked
something like this...

Primary Partition
===========
Windows XP (C 34.18 GB NTFS Healthy (System)

Extended Partition containing...
=====================
Downloads (D 9.77GB NTFS Healthy
Programs (E 39.06GB NTFS Healthy
Games (I 34.18GB NTFS Healthy
Old Drive (H 29.29GB NTFS Healthy
40GB [approx] Free Space
Memory Map (M 5GB NTFS Healthy
41.5GB [approx] Free Space

Thanks for looking!

JW


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Old 02-28-2007
Robert Pendell
 

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Re: Partition Lost...again...
Ahh.. looks like XP doesn't recognize Vista's partition table formatting
100%. It sees the barriers but when you create a partition it will take
the "invalid" partition and mark it free. Just a note here but I
believe Partition Magic gave an error for the drive I installed Vista
onto complaining about the table format. This was after installing Vista.
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Old 02-28-2007
Robert Pendell
 

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Re: Partition Lost...again...
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote:
> Neither XP or Vista have the ability to extra partitions in addition to
> what you already have unless there is a sizeable amount of unallocated
> space on your drive..
>
> You have to use a program such as Acronis Disk Director or Partition
> Magic in order to add partitions in the way that you want..
>
>


Does Partition Magic see a drive that has an XP/Vista dual-boot
properly? The last time I checked (it was with PowerQuest Partiton
Magic 8) the application gave an error about the partition tables.
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Old 02-28-2007
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
 

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Re: Partition Lost...again...
Thanks for that.. I will not recommend it again..


"Robert Pendell" <shinji257@uplink.net> wrote in message
news:OFKa7VfIHHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote:
>> Neither XP or Vista have the ability to extra partitions in addition to
>> what you already have unless there is a sizeable amount of unallocated
>> space on your drive..
>>
>> You have to use a program such as Acronis Disk Director or Partition
>> Magic in order to add partitions in the way that you want..
>>
>>

>
> Does Partition Magic see a drive that has an XP/Vista dual-boot
> properly? The last time I checked (it was with PowerQuest Partiton
> Magic 8) the application gave an error about the partition tables.


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Old 02-28-2007
Richard Urban
 

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Re: Partition Lost...again...
When you booted up into Windows XP, do you remember how disk manager stated
the Vista partition was categorized? Did it have a partition letter? Was it
listed as unknown? Was it listed as RAW.

Usually when you are setting up a dual boot situation you should do
partition work from within the new operating system. The new O/S is very
likely to be backward compatible to work with partitions that the older O/S
can see. But the old O/S may not be able to correctly see, or create, viable
partitions for the new O/S to work with.

I have experienced a great many errors using Partition Magic 8.01 when
trying to start the program. It just doesn't like partitions created by
Vista and shows the drive as corrupted, even though I can boot into both
Vista and XP.

Using Acronis Disk Director, from the boot CD, all the drives are seen
correctly.

That being said, I do ALL of my partition work booting up with the Disk
Director CD. After the partitions are created and formatted, I install the
operating systems to the intended partitions.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"John Whitworth" <sexyjw@gEEEEEEEEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:eV8knteIHHA.3312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eIkYaldIHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Were you trying to add a new partition in unallocated available space.?
>> How large is the drive? How much unallocated space was available when you
>> began the process? What was the size of the partition you were trying to
>> create?
>>
>> You really give no information other than it didn't work.
>>

>
> Sorry.
>
> My disk (Disk 0) (232.88GB) was set up like this:
>
> Primary Partition
> ===========
> Windows XP (C 34.18 GB NTFS Healthy (System)
>
> Extended Partition containing...
> =====================
> Downloads (D 9.77GB NTFS Healthy
> Programs (E 39.06GB NTFS Healthy
> Games (I 34.18GB NTFS Healthy
> Old Drive (H 29.29GB NTFS Healthy
> 86.40GB Free Space
>
> I then installed Vista into 40GB of the free, unallocated space. All was
> well, and I had another 46GB of free space remaining. So that my Disk 0
> looked somewhat like this...
>
> Primary Partition
> ===========
> Windows XP (C 34.18 GB NTFS Healthy (System)
>
> Extended Partition containing...
> =====================
> Downloads (D 9.77GB NTFS Healthy
> Programs (E 39.06GB NTFS Healthy
> Games (I 34.18GB NTFS Healthy
> Old Drive (H 29.29GB NTFS Healthy
> Vista (O 40GB [approx]
> 46.5GB [approx] Free Space
>
> Both Vista and XP booted perfectly, and all was well, until I tried to
> create a new 5GB partition for some application specific data, using Disk
> Management in XP. Instead of the 5GB drive appearing after the Vista
> drive, the Vista drive became "free space", whilst the new drive sat in
> between that space, and the free space at the end of the disk. So it
> looked something like this...
>
> Primary Partition
> ===========
> Windows XP (C 34.18 GB NTFS Healthy (System)
>
> Extended Partition containing...
> =====================
> Downloads (D 9.77GB NTFS Healthy
> Programs (E 39.06GB NTFS Healthy
> Games (I 34.18GB NTFS Healthy
> Old Drive (H 29.29GB NTFS Healthy
> 40GB [approx] Free Space
> Memory Map (M 5GB NTFS Healthy
> 41.5GB [approx] Free Space
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
> JW
>


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