Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

In article <967ac$482dae7d$6035@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <OThXj.9248$hv2.5224@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> > "weedhopper" <whopper@verizon.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-DBBA7A.08065516052008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> >>> In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
> >>> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15...e-store-stretc
> >>>>>> h
> >>>>>> es-
> >>>>>> four-city-blocks/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <quote>
> >>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
> >>>>>> Apple
> >>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >>>>>> while
> >>>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you
> >>>>>> might
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple
> >>>>>> Store
> >>>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
> >>>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Photo:
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content...05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/Brit.../Shack%20-%20H
> >>>>>> o
> >>>>>> riz
> >>>>>> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >>>>> desktop"?
> >>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >>>> for software you can get for free.
> >>>>
> >>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> >>>> away for FREE.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >>> You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
> >>> that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...
> >> This link shows Apples worldwide market share. You have been presented
> >> with
> >> it several times now, but you slither away like a frightened eel.
> >>
> >> Maybe if you keep repeating the Mantra it might come true - in a decade or
> >> so - maybe.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the 69.5 million PC
> >> shipped in the March quarter, according to IDC. But that market share
> >> tally
> >> is up from 2.5 percent in the March quarter a year ago."
> >>
> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614
> >
> > What's to run away from? It accords perfectly with what I just said:
> > Apple is outgrowing the rest of the PC industry.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> 2007.
>
> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>
> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
>
> quarter of 2008.
>
> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> of 2008
>
> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>
> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>
> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>
> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
>
>
> You're welcome!

Yup.

Just what I said: Apple is outgrowing the industry.

2,289,000/1,517,000 = 151%

Mac sales are up 51% when the overall PC market is only up 12%.

The PC figure comes for your last reference, BTW. In fact, all the
figures I used are from your references, so *bravo*, Edwin!

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

Ezekiel wrote:
> "Glorb" <Glorb@orb.com> wrote in message
> news:21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com...
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15...r-city-blocks/
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
>>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
>>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the grand
>>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to
>>>> be precise.
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Photo:
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content...05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/Brit...2300%20dpi.jpg
>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>
>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>> desktop"?
>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>> for software you can get for free.
>
> Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
> around?

You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux nobody
is using?

>
>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it away
>> for FREE.
>
> So why are there so few takers?

There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.

> If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
> well do you think the iPod would sell?

That's an apples to oranges comparison.

>
>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>
> Check again.


http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
2007.

http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007

7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286

Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
quarter of 2008.

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
of 2008

2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321

Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%

Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =

.0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%


--
"Facts are facts whether or not you or I can prove them." -- Alan Baker



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Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15...ore-stretches-
>>>> four-city-blocks/
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>>>> while
>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
>>>> about
>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you might
>>>> be
>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple Store
>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Photo:
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content...05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/Brit...ck%20-%20Horiz
>>>> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>
>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>> desktop"?
>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>> for software you can get for free.
>>
>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
>> away for FREE.
>>
>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>
> You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
> that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...


http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
2007.

http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007

7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286

Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
quarter of 2008.

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
of 2008

2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321

Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%

Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =

.0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%


You're welcome.

--
"Facts are facts whether or not you or I can prove them." -- Alan Baker



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In article <e9a85$482db0a7$6723@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Ezekiel wrote:
> > "Glorb" <Glorb@orb.com> wrote in message
> > news:21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com...
> >> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15...store-stretche
> >>>> s-four-city-blocks/
> >>>>
> >>>> <quote>
> >>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
> >>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
> >>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
> >>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the grand
> >>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to
> >>>> be precise.
> >>>> </quote>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Photo:
> >>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content...05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/Brit...hack%20-%20Hor
> >>>> izontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>
> >>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >>> desktop"?
> >> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >> for software you can get for free.
> >
> > Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
> > around?
>
> You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux nobody
> is using?
>
> >
> >> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it away
> >> for FREE.
> >
> > So why are there so few takers?
>
> There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.
>
> > If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
> > well do you think the iPod would sell?
>
> That's an apples to oranges comparison.
>
> >
> >>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >
> > Check again.
>
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> 2007.
>
> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>
> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
> quarter of 2008.
>
> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> of 2008
>
> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>
> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>
> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>
> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%

Mac growth Q1'08: 51%
Overall growth Q1'08: 12%
Source: Edwin!

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

In article <9a147$482db109$6723@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
> > Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15...store-stretche
> >>>> s-
> >>>> four-city-blocks/
> >>>>
> >>>> <quote>
> >>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
> >>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >>>> while
> >>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
> >>>> about
> >>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you
> >>>> might
> >>>> be
> >>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple
> >>>> Store
> >>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
> >>>> </quote>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Photo:
> >>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content...05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/Brit...hack%20-%20Hor
> >>>> iz
> >>>> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>
> >>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >>> desktop"?
> >> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >> for software you can get for free.
> >>
> >> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> >> away for FREE.
> >>
> >>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >
> > You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
> > that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...
>
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> 2007.
>
> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>
> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
> quarter of 2008.
>
> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> of 2008
>
> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>
> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>
> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>
> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
>
>
> You're welcome.

And I do thank you!

Your figures show that Apple is *far* outgrowing the industry.

Apple: 51% growth year over year
Overall: 12%.
Source: Edwin!

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <e9a85$482db0a7$6723@news.teranews.com>,
> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
>
>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "Glorb" <Glorb@orb.com> wrote in message
>>> news:21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com...
>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15...store-stretche
>>>>>> s-four-city-blocks/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>>>>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
>>>>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
>>>>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the grand
>>>>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to
>>>>>> be precise.
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photo:
>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content...05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/Brit...hack%20-%20Hor
>>>>>> izontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
>>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>>>> desktop"?
>>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>>>> for software you can get for free.
>>> Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
>>> around?
>> You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux nobody
>> is using?
>>
>>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it away
>>>> for FREE.
>>> So why are there so few takers?
>> There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.
>>
>>> If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
>>> well do you think the iPod would sell?
>> That's an apples to oranges comparison.
>>
>>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>>> Check again.
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
>> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
>> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
>> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
>> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
>> 2007.
>>
>> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>>
>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>>
>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
>> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
>> quarter of 2008.
>>
>> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
>> of 2008
>>
>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>>
>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>>
>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>>
>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
>
> Mac growth Q1'08: 51%
> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%
> Source: Edwin!

Who's Edwin, and when did he become an authoritative source for these
figures?

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In article <76c1b$482db2a9$7370@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <e9a85$482db0a7$6723@news.teranews.com>,
> > Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ezekiel wrote:
> >>> "Glorb" <Glorb@orb.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com...
> >>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15...e-store-stretc
> >>>>>> he
> >>>>>> s-four-city-blocks/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <quote>
> >>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
> >>>>>> Apple
> >>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >>>>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
> >>>>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
> >>>>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the grand
> >>>>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city blocks
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> be precise.
> >>>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Photo:
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content...05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/Brit.../Shack%20-%20H
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>> izontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >>>>> desktop"?
> >>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >>>> for software you can get for free.
> >>> Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
> >>> around?
> >> You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux nobody
> >> is using?
> >>
> >>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> >>>> away
> >>>> for FREE.
> >>> So why are there so few takers?
> >> There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.
> >>
> >>> If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
> >>> well do you think the iPod would sell?
> >> That's an apples to oranges comparison.
> >>
> >>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >>> Check again.
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> >> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> >> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> >> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> >> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> >> 2007.
> >>
> >> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> >> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >>
> >> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >>
> >> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> >> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> >> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
> >> quarter of 2008.
> >>
> >> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> >> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> >> of 2008
> >>
> >> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >>
> >> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >>
> >> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
> >>
> >> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> >
> > Mac growth Q1'08: 51%
> > Overall growth Q1'08: 12%
> > Source: Edwin!
>
> Who's Edwin, and when did he become an authoritative source for these
> figures?

Edwin is you and since you provided the figures, they must at least be
authoritative for you.

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)