XP *and* Vista co-exist in the market?

Canuck57 wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g0pv3o$ts5$5@aioe.org...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>> news:sO_Xj.149138$Cj7.94542@pd7urf2no...
>>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:6C25082F-D4E4-42E7-ACE3-17F5A2572A83@microsoft.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:g0pb4g$dpe$3@aioe.org...
>>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:N8OXj.276233$pM4.242810@pd7urf1no...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The more I see your answers to other people, the less I think that
>>>>>>>>> you know about computers..
>>>>>>>> Listen, he is in Spain. EU. They have to pay for the Microsoft
>>>>>>>> anti-trust conviction that the US didn't enforce. Predatory pricing
>>>>>>>> and the like.
>>>>>>> So M$ are guilty of having inflated prices and predatory pricing at
>>>>>>> the same time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice adoption ground for Linux I bet. I wonder if I should take a
>>>>>>>> Spanish course, always liked the people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good for Linux maybe, not so good for Ubuntu anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? How so?
>>>>> People can use a different linux distro and not have a two year
>>>>> security hole.. opps no your right the hole buggers up more than
>>>>> Ubuntu if you move keys about.
>>>> I think that is the point. Linux isn't WeSaySo corp. Want to run a
>>>> different distro, perhaps one that supports your language better, by all
>>>> means do so. No one is forcing, cohersing or bundling Linux. When
>>>> Linux gains a user, it does so out of free will and choice.
>>> But in most cases misinformation by people like alias with stupid claims
>>> about security.
>> Compared to Windows, Ubuntu is still bulletproof. You found one little
>> vulnerability and you jumped all over it. Maybe you'll have the same joy
>> in another two years. It's been patched. Live with it.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Alias,
>
> Don't worry, we both know he is wrong. At a Vancouver hack fest Apple and
> Vista fell, Ubuntu survived. All OSes and applications have holes, just
> some like MS products have more than most others.
>
> The best track record I know of is OpenBSD.
>
>

I may check OpenBSD out. I bookmarked it and may well put it on a spare
drive to see how I like it.

Alias

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 12:26:55 -0700, Frank <fb@sto.clm> wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>> .....Are you Frank's brother?
>> Alias
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>> I own you don't I? You and mr drunken pig. The two of you can't make a
>> move without first consulting me.
>> You two losers are pathetically easy to control.
>> You both should maybe check to see if either one of you still has any
>> balls left between your legs.
>> Frank
>
> If you "control" me, I guess you like me posting a picture of your
> wife:
>
> http://www.thepigpage.com/marek/imag...05/Sow32-8.jpg
>
> and mistress:
>
> http://www.infonavigate.com/travels/...0-%20Sheep.jpg
>

He can't control himself, much less anyone else.

Alias

dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g0puft$ts5$1@aioe.org...
>
>
>>>> You really should read the web sites you post before posting them.
>>>
>>> Maybe you should ask them?
>>
>> They ONLY deliver in the UK. Read the web site you quoted.
>
> Try asking them.

Because I can read?

>
>> I don't care, personally, because I buy all my software in the USA and
>> a friend mails it to me. The last generic OEM XP Pro I bought was
>> purchased from NewEgg. Fact is MS is ripping off EU countries and you
>> are trying to defend that practice which, of course, reveals you to be
>> a shill for MS and an inconsiderate twit.
>
> No I am just pointing out your lies.

I'm still waiting for you to point out one lie and, so far, all I am
seeing is you running round like a cat chasing its tail.

> I quite often buy my software by different countries to save cash as
> many companies charge what the market will stand which is more than I
> want to pay.

MS sets "suggested" retail prices. I know this is true because I spoke
to three different computer chains and all three confirmed it. You don't
know but you can't admit that so YOU lie.

Alias

Alias wrote:

> dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:g0pv3o$ts5$5@aioe.org...
>>
>>
>>>> But in most cases misinformation by people like alias with stupid
>>>> claims about security.
>>>
>>>
>>> Compared to Windows, Ubuntu is still bulletproof. You found one
>>> little vulnerability and you jumped all over it. Maybe you'll have
>>> the same joy in another two years.
>>
>>
>> There are hundreds of holes, just look at the Ubuntu bug reports,
>> there are a steady stream of them being found all the time.
>>
>>> It's been patched.
>>
>>
>> It had been patched before but it still popped up again.
>>
>>> Live with it.
>>
>>
>> It shows that your faith in Ubuntu security is based on nothing.
>> The facts are that Ubuntu is not very secure at all.
>> Live with it.
>>
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>
> It was patched in ONE day. MS only patches once a month and usually is
> waaaaay behind the hackers. It's like when I went over the top with
> Frank twice. Count em. Frank has it saved on his computer and constantly
> posts it because IT'S ALL HE HAS! Same is true with this vulnerability.
> IT'S ALL YOU HAVE!
>
> And, fact is, compared to Windows of any flavor, Ubuntu is bulletproof.
>
> Alias

hehehe...Frank owns your pathetic little lying ass!...LOL!
Frank

Alias wrote:

> Adam Albright wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 12:26:55 -0700, Frank <fb@sto.clm> wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>> .....Are you Frank's brother?
>>> Alias
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I own you don't I? You and mr drunken pig. The two of you can't make
>>> a move without first consulting me.
>>> You two losers are pathetically easy to control.
>>> You both should maybe check to see if either one of you still has any
>>> balls left between your legs.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> If you "control" me, I guess you like me posting a picture of your
>> wife:
>>
>> http://www.thepigpage.com/marek/imag...05/Sow32-8.jpg
>>
>> and mistress:
>>
>> http://www.infonavigate.com/travels/...0-%20Sheep.jpg
>>
>>
>
> He can't control himself, much less anyone else.
>
> Alias

Thanks for once again proving my point, my little Pavlovian dog!...LOL!
Frank

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g0pv3o$ts5$5@aioe.org...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> But in most cases misinformation by people like alias with stupid
>>>>> claims about security.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Compared to Windows, Ubuntu is still bulletproof. You found one
>>>> little vulnerability and you jumped all over it. Maybe you'll have
>>>> the same joy in another two years.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are hundreds of holes, just look at the Ubuntu bug reports,
>>> there are a steady stream of them being found all the time.
>>>
>>>> It's been patched.
>>>
>>>
>>> It had been patched before but it still popped up again.
>>>
>>>> Live with it.
>>>
>>>
>>> It shows that your faith in Ubuntu security is based on nothing.
>>> The facts are that Ubuntu is not very secure at all.
>>> Live with it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It was patched in ONE day. MS only patches once a month and usually
>> is waaaaay behind the hackers. It's like when I went over the top
>> with Frank twice. Count em. Frank has it saved on his computer and
>> constantly posts it because IT'S ALL HE HAS! Same is true with this
>> vulnerability. IT'S ALL YOU HAVE!
>>
>> And, fact is, compared to Windows of any flavor, Ubuntu is bulletproof.
>>
>> Alias
>
> hehehe...Frank owns your pathetic little lying ass!...LOL!
> Frank
He did it again a hehehe...LOL! instead of a ha ha ha ha

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
news:9Q0Yj.147955$rd2.30658@pd7urf3no...
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g0pv3o$ts5$5@aioe.org...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>> news:sO_Xj.149138$Cj7.94542@pd7urf2no...
>>>>
>>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:6C25082F-D4E4-42E7-ACE3-17F5A2572A83@microsoft.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:g0pb4g$dpe$3@aioe.org...
>>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:N8OXj.276233$pM4.242810@pd7urf1no...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The more I see your answers to other people, the less I think that
>>>>>>>>> you know about computers..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Listen, he is in Spain. EU. They have to pay for the Microsoft
>>>>>>>> anti-trust conviction that the US didn't enforce. Predatory
>>>>>>>> pricing and the like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So M$ are guilty of having inflated prices and predatory pricing at
>>>>>>> the same time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice adoption ground for Linux I bet. I wonder if I should take a
>>>>>>>> Spanish course, always liked the people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good for Linux maybe, not so good for Ubuntu anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? How so?
>>>>>
>>>>> People can use a different linux distro and not have a two year
>>>>> security hole.. opps no your right the hole buggers up more than
>>>>> Ubuntu if you move keys about.
>>>>
>>>> I think that is the point. Linux isn't WeSaySo corp. Want to run a
>>>> different distro, perhaps one that supports your language better, by
>>>> all means do so. No one is forcing, cohersing or bundling Linux. When
>>>> Linux gains a user, it does so out of free will and choice.
>>>
>>> But in most cases misinformation by people like alias with stupid claims
>>> about security.
>>
>> Compared to Windows, Ubuntu is still bulletproof. You found one little
>> vulnerability and you jumped all over it. Maybe you'll have the same joy
>> in another two years. It's been patched. Live with it.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Alias,
>
> Don't worry, we both know he is wrong. At a Vancouver hack fest Apple and
> Vista fell, Ubuntu survived. All OSes and applications have holes, just
> some like MS products have more than most others.
>
> The best track record I know of is OpenBSD.

Linux doesn't get attacked as much because it isn't as pervasive as Windows.
The same for OS-X, with such a small percentage of the market share, it
isn't as profitable to hack.
I'm no fan of Vista, but it does get more hack attempts just because it is
so pervasive.

"Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
news:u2V937kuIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
> news:9Q0Yj.147955$rd2.30658@pd7urf3no...
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:g0pv3o$ts5$5@aioe.org...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:sO_Xj.149138$Cj7.94542@pd7urf2no...
>>>>>
>>>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6C25082F-D4E4-42E7-ACE3-17F5A2572A83@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:g0pb4g$dpe$3@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:N8OXj.276233$pM4.242810@pd7urf1no...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The more I see your answers to other people, the less I think
>>>>>>>>>> that you know about computers..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Listen, he is in Spain. EU. They have to pay for the Microsoft
>>>>>>>>> anti-trust conviction that the US didn't enforce. Predatory
>>>>>>>>> pricing and the like.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So M$ are guilty of having inflated prices and predatory pricing at
>>>>>>>> the same time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice adoption ground for Linux I bet. I wonder if I should take a
>>>>>>>>> Spanish course, always liked the people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good for Linux maybe, not so good for Ubuntu anymore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? How so?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People can use a different linux distro and not have a two year
>>>>>> security hole.. opps no your right the hole buggers up more than
>>>>>> Ubuntu if you move keys about.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that is the point. Linux isn't WeSaySo corp. Want to run a
>>>>> different distro, perhaps one that supports your language better, by
>>>>> all means do so. No one is forcing, cohersing or bundling Linux.
>>>>> When Linux gains a user, it does so out of free will and choice.
>>>>
>>>> But in most cases misinformation by people like alias with stupid
>>>> claims about security.
>>>
>>> Compared to Windows, Ubuntu is still bulletproof. You found one little
>>> vulnerability and you jumped all over it. Maybe you'll have the same joy
>>> in another two years. It's been patched. Live with it.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> Alias,
>>
>> Don't worry, we both know he is wrong. At a Vancouver hack fest Apple
>> and Vista fell, Ubuntu survived. All OSes and applications have holes,
>> just some like MS products have more than most others.
>>
>> The best track record I know of is OpenBSD.
>
> Linux doesn't get attacked as much because it isn't as pervasive as
> Windows.
> The same for OS-X, with such a small percentage of the market share, it
> isn't as profitable to hack.
> I'm no fan of Vista, but it does get more hack attempts just because it is
> so pervasive.

Ponder this thought.

On the server side they are more equal. Lots of Linux/Apache. Lots of
Win/IIS.

Why does Win/IIS gets hacked at least 5 times more often?
>

"Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
news:u2V937kuIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Linux doesn't get attacked as much because it isn't as pervasive as
> Windows.

Not that hoary old myth again - Linux doesn't get attacked because its
architecture makes it very difficult to attack, users do NOT work on a daily
basis with root privileges, unlike the vast majority of Windows users, most
distros do not allow a user to log on without passwords, unlike Windows, and
if Linux does get a virus, then the most damage that can be done is to
corrupt the User account...which is completely divorced from the kernel....

Canuck57 wrote:

> "Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
> news:u2V937kuIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>>"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>news:9Q0Yj.147955$rd2.30658@pd7urf3no...
>>
>>>"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:g0pv3o$ts5$5@aioe.org...
>>>
>>>>dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:sO_Xj.149138$Cj7.94542@pd7urf2no...
>>>>>
>>>>>>"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:6C25082F-D4E4-42E7-ACE3-17F5A2572A83@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:g0pb4g$dpe$3@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:N8OXj.276233$pM4.242810@pd7urf1no. ..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The more I see your answers to other people, the less I think
>>>>>>>>>>>that you know about computers..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Listen, he is in Spain. EU. They have to pay for the Microsoft
>>>>>>>>>>anti-trust conviction that the US didn't enforce. Predatory
>>>>>>>>>>pricing and the like.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So M$ are guilty of having inflated prices and predatory pricing at
>>>>>>>>>the same time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Nice adoption ground for Linux I bet. I wonder if I should take a
>>>>>>>>>>Spanish course, always liked the people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Good for Linux maybe, not so good for Ubuntu anymore.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Really? How so?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>People can use a different linux distro and not have a two year
>>>>>>>security hole.. opps no your right the hole buggers up more than
>>>>>>>Ubuntu if you move keys about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think that is the point. Linux isn't WeSaySo corp. Want to run a
>>>>>>different distro, perhaps one that supports your language better, by
>>>>>>all means do so. No one is forcing, cohersing or bundling Linux.
>>>>>>When Linux gains a user, it does so out of free will and choice.
>>>>>
>>>>>But in most cases misinformation by people like alias with stupid
>>>>>claims about security.
>>>>
>>>>Compared to Windows, Ubuntu is still bulletproof. You found one little
>>>>vulnerability and you jumped all over it. Maybe you'll have the same joy
>>>>in another two years. It's been patched. Live with it.
>>>>
>>>>Alias
>>>
>>>Alias,
>>>
>>>Don't worry, we both know he is wrong. At a Vancouver hack fest Apple
>>>and Vista fell, Ubuntu survived. All OSes and applications have holes,
>>>just some like MS products have more than most others.
>>>
>>>The best track record I know of is OpenBSD.
>>
>>Linux doesn't get attacked as much because it isn't as pervasive as
>>Windows.
>>The same for OS-X, with such a small percentage of the market share, it
>>isn't as profitable to hack.
>>I'm no fan of Vista, but it does get more hack attempts just because it is
>>so pervasive.
>
>
> Ponder this thought.
>
> On the server side they are more equal. Lots of Linux/Apache. Lots of
> Win/IIS.
>
> Why does Win/IIS gets hacked at least 5 times more often?
>
>
>
Pulling numbers out of your fat lying linux ass again?
Figures!
Frank