Vista versus XP

"David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I've been running both Vista x64 and x86 (not manufactures OEM's) for over
>a year now with no >problems. The problem lies with the manufacturers and
>not Vista. My brother bought a new Vista >notebook about a month ago and
>after 2 or 3 weeks of nothing but problems he sent me an email >complaining
>about Vista. I told him to get a copy of the real OS, as opposed to the
>venders install, >format the hard drive and install Vista. That was a week
>ago and he now loves Vista.

Hm, isn't that double dipping the customer?

Buy 2 so one runs? A license was purchased with the original PC was it not?

Only Microsoft could get away with that.

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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> "David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>I've been running both Vista x64 and x86 (not manufactures OEM's) for over
>>a year now with no >problems. The problem lies with the manufacturers and
>>not Vista. My brother bought a new Vista >notebook about a month ago and
>>after 2 or 3 weeks of nothing but problems he sent me an email
>> >complaining about Vista. I told him to get a copy of the real OS, as
>>opposed to the venders install, >format the hard drive and install Vista.
>>That was a week ago and he now loves Vista.
>
> Hm, isn't that double dipping the customer?
>
> Buy 2 so one runs? A license was purchased with the original PC was it
> not?
>
> Only Microsoft could get away with that.
>

What has that got to do with M$?
You go out and buy a machine with a vendor supplied and supported OS called
Vista and then go out and buy another retail OS called vista.
THe correct approach would be to get the supplier of the original OS to fix
it as they should do.
If they can't tell them to refund the machine and buy a Samsung.

"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
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> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>> "David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>I've been running both Vista x64 and x86 (not manufactures OEM's) for
>>>over a year now with no >problems. The problem lies with the
>>>manufacturers and not Vista. My brother bought a new Vista >notebook
>>>about a month ago and after 2 or 3 weeks of nothing but problems he sent
>>>me an email
>>> >complaining about Vista. I told him to get a copy of the real OS, as
>>>opposed to the venders install, >format the hard drive and install Vista.
>>>That was a week ago and he now loves Vista.
>>
>> Hm, isn't that double dipping the customer?
>>
>> Buy 2 so one runs? A license was purchased with the original PC was it
>> not?
>>
>> Only Microsoft could get away with that.
>>
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> What has that got to do with M$?

If it was GM, Ford, Chyrsler, Toyota, Honda or other auto manufacture, I
could say lemon law.

It is M$ monopolistic position and bundling that sells Vista. If users had
a choise, bet Vista sales would dwindle. New full versions of Vista often
site on the shelf with the dust.

How many people buy 2 engines for their cars so one works?

> You go out and buy a machine with a vendor supplied and supported OS
> called Vista and then go out and buy another retail OS called vista.
> THe correct approach would be to get the supplier of the original OS to
> fix it as they should do.

Makes for good but cheap machines in the return bin.

Of if too late to return it, load Ubuntu or Fedora. New Fedora version in 4
days. http://fedoraproject.org/

I can agree with you...
I have a "unmodified" version of Windows Vista and it works great.
Somebody I know bought a Dell laptop and it's version of Windows Vista was a bit modified by Dell and that's created a lot of problems....

"David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3B50A226-E725-41A0-A86C-06A6C78C7EF4@microsoft.com...
I've been running both Vista x64 and x86 (not manufactures OEM's) for over a year now with no problems. The problem lies with the manufacturers and not Vista. My brother bought a new Vista notebook about a month ago and after 2 or 3 weeks of nothing but problems he sent me an email complaining about Vista. I told him to get a copy of the real OS, as opposed to the venders install, format the hard drive and install Vista. That was a week ago and he now loves Vista.
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"Tfullertonsr" <Tfullertonsr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4C889D33-0748-42E3-ACEA-DFDEB31FE66B@microsoft.com...
> Today a suggestive article in Marketwatch.com mentioned the demise of Vista
> operating systems. It was pointed out that this is unlikely due to the
> overwhelming brilliant and costly staff who developed and marketed this
> costly venture.
>
> I am suggesting a more practical approach to this situation. Buy Apple.
> The message is clear. Big business is unbending in their approach to this
> software. The Lemming approach is in high gear.
>
> So for the Barack Obama movement in operating software to take hold, you
> need the candidate. Treasure your XP (A statement I thought I would never
> utter) and move to the most logical system available. Apple OS is bought in
> quantity will send a message to the bottom line that Microsoft recognizes,
> shareholder value.
>
> Meanwhile to all you Vista supporters, keep up the good work, you will
> surely help the cause.
>
>