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On Tue, 20 May 2008 21:09:46 -0500, daboodah <guest@unknown-email.com>
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>Yep. This has always frustrated me. Of course, nobody CAN explain why
>the Task "Manager" is so terribly inadequate. Or...maybe it should just
>be renamed to Process/Status Viewer to eliminate confusion.
>
>In fact, I need to force a shutdown right now due to a 3rd party
>process that has hung and cannot be killed. *Sigh*
You can kill a process IF it is behaving. If it is acting up then Task
Manager often is sluggish. The trick is "kill" the process once, then
wait. How long depends. In time, usually less than 60 seconds Task
Manager should be able to shut down the offending service or force it
to pop a shut down window of it's own which often will work.
We cannot let people go around spreading these lies about Vista and
Microsoft. They just aren't true! Vista ISN'T OK!!!!
It is a complete waste of coding time. Worse, it is a waste of
everybody's installation time.
You cannot kill the blasted processes! I am sitting looking at a
process that has been these for 3 hours. If you think I'm waiting this
time every time I want to kill a process you have got to be a comedian.
My shutdown can take forever. And I have to reboot to get over the
browser issue (Vista, locks up ANY browser....just for http port). There
is NO solution except to reboot (see http://winvistaforums.com/windows-vi...ter-while.html)
So, if you are working, and your browser packs up, you have to reboot
and it still takes forever!
Serously, what Microsoft are doing here is nothing short of criminal.
It is money for old rope. As the guy above says....Win9x all over
again....and they don't get any ropier than that!
I can not believe this, I can not end my OWN process, it tells me access
is denied. I am administator, I am the creator of that f**n process. How
come something like this vista "thing" can be called an operating system
while it is NOT even capable of control the OPERATIONS ! I hate this, I
really really do, as a programmer, I have to waste my time, money and
LIFE for this kind of BS, becouse it is so called mainstream ! Damn !
> I can not believe this, I can not end my OWN process, it tells me access
> is denied. I am administator, I am the creator of that f**n process. How
> come something like this vista "thing" can be called an operating system
> while it is NOT even capable of control the OPERATIONS ! I hate this, I
> really really do, as a programmer, I have to waste my time, money and
> LIFE for this kind of BS, becouse it is so called mainstream ! Damn !
Your problem is that you do not know how to use an operating system. Calm
down.
Tyro
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> I can not believe this, I can not end my OWN process, it tells me access
> is denied. I am administator, I am the creator of that f**n process. How
> come something like this vista "thing" can be called an operating system
> while it is NOT even capable of control the OPERATIONS ! I hate this, I
> really really do, as a programmer, I have to waste my time, money and
> LIFE for this kind of BS, becouse it is so called mainstream ! Damn !
>
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There are some processes that cannot be killed. They are needed by windows
security. If you want to kill them i think you should try using procexp and
but you will get a BSOD
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> I can not believe this, I can not end my OWN process, it tells me access
> is denied. I am administator, I am the creator of that f**n process. How
> come something like this vista "thing" can be called an operating system
> while it is NOT even capable of control the OPERATIONS ! I hate this, I
> really really do, as a programmer, I have to waste my time, money and
> LIFE for this kind of BS, becouse it is so called mainstream ! Damn !
>
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sadly, I can confirm that this travesty of a problem persists right into
windows 7. If the process hangs, there is often NOTHING you can do to
stop it other than rebooting, and frequently, that means holding down
the power button because it won't initiate the shutdown proceedure with
the hung program. to the absolute moron above (a few posts), to assume
that it is a lack of knowledge that causes this problem... idiot. the
taskkill command "succeeds" and does nothing. the task manager does
nothing. you are stuck with an unresponsive program, and evidently even
logging out and back in doesn't allow you to reload the program in
question. it is no longer an "active" process, but you get an error
when you attempt to reload it.
and the person that started this thread at least is not talking about
system processes. it is 3rd party stuff like firefox (which is
currently hung in my case).
I partly agree with both of you... One, you may not know how to use the
OS
or buy or build a good PC to run Vista on..
Yes I have had hangs or hung processes,, but it is a small number of
apps and usually older ones that work fine on XP machines.... but for
some reason hang or function strangly on Vista... Remember moving from
Win95 to 98 Or XP how many head aches did that cause you?
Sounds like you may have some corrupt file issues or compatability
problems to have all browsers hang... I use no less than 4 of them
every day... to test web sites.. Opera, Internet Explorer, Mozilla,
Firefox, and Safari to name a few.. I don't think i have ever had one
of thos hang... but I don't do games on Vista... only my Best XP box for
that...
Go MAC or Linux,
I'm just not geeky enough for that !
You could try out 'Dtaskmanager' (http://www.vistax64.com/Dtaskmanager),
it's able to forcibly kill a process. I have used it for years, both
with XP and Vista and I've been able to kill all processes with it.
Vista is stupid, i agree that it wont killl task
damn,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, xp is much better in this
stuck with it need to restart after every once in a while
and grow up Tyro
its vista not the person who is creating problem duh....
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