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Old 02-10-2008
veranyon
 

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System restore process takes a long time
When I restore system with this tool I wait arounf hour or two hours when
this process finished. And I don't know how long time this process might be
in process.
On XP I disn't remember that I was watching such trouble. On Vista only.

"Please wait while your Windows files and settings are being restored
System Restore is initializing..." and it message I watch very much time"
In left of this message is a little clump. animation. the animation of clump
is working. So I think, tha the my computer has',t hanged. system is working
in that time. But SR service fault or have simular problem

I can only press power or reset button in that moment because I think that
this process have fault.

Yeahh. Exuse me. I don't know English. This "speech" was staying from
school. Where I studyed it.

If somebody can't understand me I try rewrite this text.

Thanks
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Old 02-10-2008
AlexB
 

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Re: System restore process takes a long time
The full restoration of the system like Vista should take about the same
time as a new install or perhaps longer. Does the process ever complete?
Does it come to a successful end?

"veranyon" <veranyon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B18412B2-9620-4B19-919A-8E22E4C8C28C@microsoft.com...
> When I restore system with this tool I wait arounf hour or two hours when
> this process finished. And I don't know how long time this process might
> be
> in process.
> On XP I disn't remember that I was watching such trouble. On Vista only.
>
> "Please wait while your Windows files and settings are being restored
> System Restore is initializing..." and it message I watch very much time"
> In left of this message is a little clump. animation. the animation of
> clump
> is working. So I think, tha the my computer has',t hanged. system is
> working
> in that time. But SR service fault or have simular problem
>
> I can only press power or reset button in that moment because I think that
> this process have fault.
>
> Yeahh. Exuse me. I don't know English. This "speech" was staying from
> school. Where I studyed it.
>
> If somebody can't understand me I try rewrite this text.
>
> Thanks


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Old 02-10-2008
veranyon
 

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Re: System restore process takes a long time


"AlexB" wrote:

> The full restoration of the system like Vista should take about the same
> time as a new install or perhaps longer.


1. as new install.
a. Install vista
b. update system (windows update)
c. moving location of "Documents" to another harddisk. (right click on the
Documents folder>location> d:\home\iron)
d. create system restore point (name - "first one")
e. install some program (for example, "emeditor" or "xming" (for ssh client
(x session))
f. system restore. select "first one" point and run it
g. watching this "trouble"

>Does the process ever complete?
> Does it come to a successful end?


a half year ago I saw as this process have good finish. I run it and select
some restore point and watching message with "please wait ..." around a half
hour. I didn't wait till of the end of and went to walk. After 3 hours I come
back and watch it too. I wanted to press power button but see as process run
to the next. All were ok. After it I didn't see it. Only that message. arounf
3,4 etc hours.

I didn't write very much moments. But I don't know - people get attention to
it subj or not.

There is one moment. When I install windows I have created partition for it
under vista PE (subj of win vista installation environment). Not just the
usual partition tools but special tools - "diskpart" (recovery
system>cmd>diskpart>select disk 0>create partition primary>select partition
1>active>exit. format c: /fs:ntfs /q. restart and run DVD of vista again and
install it.
I worry that it's nor right. partition might have one SID (previous
session?) and SIDs of present installation (files and directories) have
another SID. So System Restore have trouble.
I create partition because if Windows' installer don't see target partition
until installation so if I create partition under windows installer and
specify partition for installer the boot files are placed on partition which
installer saw in "real". I remember it by win2k. And after installation I'll
not see boot files on C: disk. Only "windows", "program files". And boot
files were placed on second disk.
So was on win9x/winnt 3.x/4.x/win2k/winxp

So I create partition "by hands". Before installation. And mark it as active
myself. After it I restart machine and run setup. So I know that bootfiles
would placed on disk where are system folder "windows". on disk "c:". And
"mbr" too.

there is one moment also. I can just unplug other disks and give the changes
in hands of windows installer. partition of disk etc. But need to open case
of machine. unplug sata cables etc. perhaps I lazy man. For example when I
install linux/BSD OS I just run cfdisk and mkfs.*** tools only.

"That is". SID. do the partition already have a SID when I create partition
under "diskpart&format" or this one is created when system have already
installed on disk? If "yes" so my trouble with "system restore" is rightful
one.
Because I didn't notice that somebody have relevant troubles. "People just
install it and the end".
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Old 02-10-2008
veranyon
 

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Re: System restore process takes a long time
will test Erunt (http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/). I think
I won't solve this trouble. Very little number of people have this problem.
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Old 02-11-2008
AlexB
 

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Re: System restore process takes a long time
There might be a problem here.

You said that half a year ago your restoration worked OK, very fast but now
it is very slow.

If you accumulated a lot of stuff in you machine over that period this is
what is supposed to happen, right?

>So I know that bootfiles
>would placed on disk where are system folder "windows". on disk "c:". And
>"mbr" too.


I don't think it is the case for Vista, I think it was the case for XP but
not for Vista. Vista's boot files are hidden.

I may be wrong on this one. Perhaps somebody will correct me.

>I create partition because if Windows' installer don't see target partition
>until installation so if I create partition under windows installer and
>specify partition for installer the boot files are placed on partition
>which
>installer saw in "real".


Why is it so? When you put a DVD with the OS in DVD drive the installer sees
all partitions. I also should offer you a chance to reformat them or wipe
out partitions as far as I remember, but again I am not quite sure about
that. I think you do have a chance to wipe out partitions on one disk.

Vista does not need anything except for a SATA HDD (or SATA RAID) of minimal
size which is roughly 70GB

"veranyon" <veranyon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:00BACF36-FD9F-4FFB-B052-70A6BB4BC079@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "AlexB" wrote:
>
>> The full restoration of the system like Vista should take about the same
>> time as a new install or perhaps longer.

>
> 1. as new install.
> a. Install vista
> b. update system (windows update)
> c. moving location of "Documents" to another harddisk. (right click on the
> Documents folder>location> d:\home\iron)
> d. create system restore point (name - "first one")
> e. install some program (for example, "emeditor" or "xming" (for ssh
> client
> (x session))
> f. system restore. select "first one" point and run it
> g. watching this "trouble"
>
>>Does the process ever complete?
>> Does it come to a successful end?

>
> a half year ago I saw as this process have good finish. I run it and
> select
> some restore point and watching message with "please wait ..." around a
> half
> hour. I didn't wait till of the end of and went to walk. After 3 hours I
> come
> back and watch it too. I wanted to press power button but see as process
> run
> to the next. All were ok. After it I didn't see it. Only that message.
> arounf
> 3,4 etc hours.
>
> I didn't write very much moments. But I don't know - people get attention
> to
> it subj or not.
>
> There is one moment. When I install windows I have created partition for
> it
> under vista PE (subj of win vista installation environment). Not just the
> usual partition tools but special tools - "diskpart" (recovery
> system>cmd>diskpart>select disk 0>create partition primary>select
> partition
> 1>active>exit. format c: /fs:ntfs /q. restart and run DVD of vista again
> and
> install it.
> I worry that it's nor right. partition might have one SID (previous
> session?) and SIDs of present installation (files and directories) have
> another SID. So System Restore have trouble.
> I create partition because if Windows' installer don't see target
> partition
> until installation so if I create partition under windows installer and
> specify partition for installer the boot files are placed on partition
> which
> installer saw in "real". I remember it by win2k. And after installation
> I'll
> not see boot files on C: disk. Only "windows", "program files". And boot
> files were placed on second disk.
> So was on win9x/winnt 3.x/4.x/win2k/winxp
>
> So I create partition "by hands". Before installation. And mark it as
> active
> myself. After it I restart machine and run setup. So I know that bootfiles
> would placed on disk where are system folder "windows". on disk "c:". And
> "mbr" too.
>
> there is one moment also. I can just unplug other disks and give the
> changes
> in hands of windows installer. partition of disk etc. But need to open
> case
> of machine. unplug sata cables etc. perhaps I lazy man. For example when I
> install linux/BSD OS I just run cfdisk and mkfs.*** tools only.
>
> "That is". SID. do the partition already have a SID when I create
> partition
> under "diskpart&format" or this one is created when system have already
> installed on disk? If "yes" so my trouble with "system restore" is
> rightful
> one.
> Because I didn't notice that somebody have relevant troubles. "People just
> install it and the end".


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Old 02-11-2008
veranyon
 

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Re: System restore process takes a long time


"AlexB" wrote:

> There might be a problem here.
>
> You said that half a year ago your restoration worked OK, very fast but now
> it is very slow.
>
> If you accumulated a lot of stuff in you machine over that period this is
> what is supposed to happen, right?


nothing. I remember how system restore process fineshed over 1 minute. It
was yesterday. But I do nothing. It just take and finished in 1 minute. And
now it's working over hour end take next time. I was scanning all as could as
I but I don't know why it's.

>
> I don't think it is the case for Vista, I think it was the case for XP but
> not for Vista. Vista's boot files are hidden.
>
> I may be wrong on this one. Perhaps somebody will correct me.
>
> >I create partition because if Windows' installer don't see target partition
> >until installation so if I create partition under windows installer and
> >specify partition for installer the boot files are placed on partition
> >which
> >installer saw in "real".

>
> Why is it so? When you put a DVD with the OS in DVD drive the installer sees
> all partitions.

Exuse me. I had a mistake when speak, that the vista dvd installer not see
partitions.

will be exactly to tell: when hard disk don't have any partitions and vista
don't see it...

For example.
You have couple of harddisks. Your secondary disk have one partition with
documents, films, music etc. And You want install windows on first disk.
Primary master disk.
It don't have any partitions else. You load vista dvd and say to it to
install system to first disk. win vista install files to it but!!! all boot
files and mbr code are putting to second disk. I about it. hiden or not
hidden - this isn't important moment.
Why? very just. "windows conception of device connection". for example if I
have secondary slave device only so it would the first device (c.
Not. I can to set to installer that it install system to primary master
(first disk), but not forget that it will be disk D: for system. Because
second disk is already as disk c: He was connected for the system before
creating partition for system.


>I also should offer you a chance to reformat them or wipe
> out partitions as far as I remember, but again I am not quite sure about
> that. I think you do have a chance to wipe out partitions on one disk.



Yes, I was.
diskpart
select disk 0
clean all
...
or boot from any linux live cd/dvd
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3120022A_3JS1AE8N

I was changing it

>
> Vista does not need anything except for a SATA HDD (or SATA RAID) of minimal
> size which is roughly 70GB


The system was installed on 120 Gb harddisk. "One system - one physical disk
- one partition on disk"
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Old 02-11-2008
veranyon
 

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Re: System restore process takes a long time
I'll test to unmount all disks except first disk. to clean and install system
on this disk.
After it will to mount another disks and test all again.

Thanks that You're helping me. ...to take that I know English very worst
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