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Old 03-07-2007
Puppy Breath
 

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Re: If you really think Vista is the future...
Vienna (code name) comes next. It's been in the works for a while now.

Many of the things cited in that article are the very reason why Vista will
be the OS of the future. Consumers want a more secure environment. Media
publishers want better copyright protection.

Hard disk space is cheap and plentiful and the constant navigating through
folders as we've been doing since the DOS era just doesn't cut it anymore.
The OS needs some kind of built-in search index/engine. Something along the
lines of WinFS.



"Zim Babwe"
<zimbabwe@if_you_think_i_am_going_to_put_my_real_e _mail_address_here_you_are_crazy.com>
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> What comes after Vista now? Since they can't get Vista right, Microsoft
> will be thinking of going back to DOS. They will upgrade DOS 6.22 and
> change the version to 8.0. Machines will run faster, less prone to
> crashing.
>
>
> "Cymbal Man Freq." <Don't Bother@ForgedPostsAnonymous.unorg> wrote in
> message news:Oe2%23DNMYHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Loopy" <stopspam@everywhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23at3OJMYHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> | Seems to me that everyone is overlooking an inescapable fact -
>> Microsoft and
>> | Microsoft alone owns the Windows operating system. They designed it,
>> built
>> | it, packaged it and sold it and they can do as they please with it.
>> There
>> | is nothing in the universe forcing anyone to buy, build, or otherwise
>> use a
>> | computer and if you decide that you must have one there is no law
>> forcing
>> | you to use Windows. Buying a copy of
>> | Windows does not give you or anyone else license to dictate to
>> Microsoft
>> | what they should or should not do with their operating system.
>> Consumers
>> | can discuss it, complain about it and submit requests for changes but
>> in the
>> | end only Bill Gates can decide what he wants to do with Windows.
>> |
>>
>> That's why Bill is bailing out from the top with a Golden Parachute. This
>> is the
>> OS to end all OS's, including this one! What comes after Vista now?
>>
>>

>
>


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Old 03-07-2007
Saran
 

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If you really think Vista is the future...
If you really think Vista is the future, then please read this:

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html

To people who seem to be bent on telling people Vista is a good thing,
etc, then I'm sorry, you don't have a clue what Vista really represents.

Also have a look here for more relating to that:

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37091

I don't care if you don't like the authors or whatever. Please just read
and comprehend what the DRM issue *REALLY* means here.

This is my attempt to educate people who think Vista is good for the
future of computing. It is not to start a flame war or troll bait. If
you want to comment on this, then please do so. Just don't reply saying
"you're an idiot, you actually trust that author" or what not.

The issue at hand I feel is a serious one, and I hope all who read this
will treat it as such.

Have a good evening.


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Old 03-07-2007
Rich
 

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Re: If you really think Vista is the future...
> To people who seem to be bent on telling people Vista is a good thing,
> etc, then I'm sorry, you don't have a clue what Vista really represents.



Irony again

oh brother


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Old 03-07-2007
Gordon Keenan
 

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Re: If you really think Vista is the future...

"Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
news:eTPzCMIYHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> If you really think Vista is the future, then please read this:
>
> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html
>
> To people who seem to be bent on telling people Vista is a good thing,
> etc, then I'm sorry, you don't have a clue what Vista really represents.
>
> Also have a look here for more relating to that:
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37091
>
> I don't care if you don't like the authors or whatever. Please just read
> and comprehend what the DRM issue *REALLY* means here.
>
> This is my attempt to educate people who think Vista is good for the
> future of computing. It is not to start a flame war or troll bait. If you
> want to comment on this, then please do so. Just don't reply saying
> "you're an idiot, you actually trust that author" or what not.
>
> The issue at hand I feel is a serious one, and I hope all who read this
> will treat it as such.
>
> Have a good evening.


I don't think I have read anything on here from any user saying that Vista
is GOOD for the future of computing, but all I do seem to read is some
people moaning about the O.S. when it would seem they prefer to use Linux,
or some other O.S. If that's the case why not stick to what makes you happy
and allow others to be blind to your vastly superior and cheaper
alternatives?

The bottom line is this. MS has money and marketing available world-wide.
They can push whatever they want because they know that the press will lap
it up (oh that lovely advertising revenue) most end users are pretty
clueless and believe what a magazine journo will write, and bottom line they
know that if they push long and hard enough, the Dell's of the world and PC
World Stores will all do the marketing and selling for them, so they can
pretty much sit back and let everyone and anyone moan as much as they like.
Bottom line - "Make Money vs Moaning minnies on here = Don't Bat an Eyelid".

Sure, this is not very good if you believe that a computer O.S. should be
available free and that the end user is someone that the company cares
about, but it's about making money money money, and it's only when that
money making side of things gets hurt that any company will stop and take
stock on what might be happening.

My own "personal view" on Vista is that there should not be all the
different versions. There should only be one operating system and that way
there would be less confusion, but again, it's all down to making money! The
funny thing is that when I did a fresh installation of Windows XP
Professional on a second system I have here, it really did appear to be
running blisteringly fast, but when you consider that it's all down to the
drivers etc, I know once the usual MS and other manufacturer development
cycles keep rolling on, the driver situation will improve. How long has it
taken the likes of Linux to get up to a standard the average user can even
attempt to deal with? With that in mind, I think the likes of XP and Vista
have done an amazing job of making things easier for the average user.

The one thing though that nobody ever touches on though is the human/worker
factor. MS has a huge amount of staff and telephone support people, and
again due to making money they moved their support to call centers in the
likes of India. What have the likes of you did to complain about this? But
then again, why would you bother? Don't you care about the human aspect to
all of this? More a case of the short sightedness of complaining about an
O.S. when there are real problems and issues in the world more worthy of
bleating on about.

An O.S. is simply that. Use it, or not, it's your call, but bottom line is,
try and get a life and focus on what matters away from a computer and move
on with your life. It's a lot shorter than you think!



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Old 03-07-2007
Cymbal Man Freq.
 

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Re: If you really think Vista is the future...
Bump.


"Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
news:eTPzCMIYHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| If you really think Vista is the future, then please read this:
|
| http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html
|
| To people who seem to be bent on telling people Vista is a good thing,
| etc, then I'm sorry, you don't have a clue what Vista really represents.
|
| Also have a look here for more relating to that:
|
| http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37091
|
| I don't care if you don't like the authors or whatever. Please just read
| and comprehend what the DRM issue *REALLY* means here.
|
| This is my attempt to educate people who think Vista is good for the
| future of computing. It is not to start a flame war or troll bait. If
| you want to comment on this, then please do so. Just don't reply saying
| "you're an idiot, you actually trust that author" or what not.
|
| The issue at hand I feel is a serious one, and I hope all who read this
| will treat it as such.
|
| Have a good evening.
|
|


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Old 03-07-2007
Loopy
 

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Re: If you really think Vista is the future...
Seems to me that everyone is overlooking an inescapable fact - Microsoft and
Microsoft alone owns the Windows operating system. They designed it, built
it, packaged it and sold it and they can do as they please with it. There
is nothing in the universe forcing anyone to buy, build, or otherwise use a
computer and if you decide that you must have one there is no law forcing
you to use Windows. Buying a copy of
Windows does not give you or anyone else license to dictate to Microsoft
what they should or should not do with their operating system. Consumers
can discuss it, complain about it and submit requests for changes but in the
end only Bill Gates can decide what he wants to do with Windows.




"Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
news:eTPzCMIYHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> If you really think Vista is the future, then please read this:
>
> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html
>
> To people who seem to be bent on telling people Vista is a good thing,
> etc, then I'm sorry, you don't have a clue what Vista really represents.
>
> Also have a look here for more relating to that:
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37091
>
> I don't care if you don't like the authors or whatever. Please just read
> and comprehend what the DRM issue *REALLY* means here.
>
> This is my attempt to educate people who think Vista is good for the
> future of computing. It is not to start a flame war or troll bait. If you
> want to comment on this, then please do so. Just don't reply saying
> "you're an idiot, you actually trust that author" or what not.
>
> The issue at hand I feel is a serious one, and I hope all who read this
> will treat it as such.
>
> Have a good evening.
>


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Old 03-07-2007
Cymbal Man Freq.
 

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Re: If you really think Vista is the future...

"Loopy" <stopspam@everywhere.com> wrote in message
news:%23at3OJMYHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Seems to me that everyone is overlooking an inescapable fact - Microsoft and
| Microsoft alone owns the Windows operating system. They designed it, built
| it, packaged it and sold it and they can do as they please with it. There
| is nothing in the universe forcing anyone to buy, build, or otherwise use a
| computer and if you decide that you must have one there is no law forcing
| you to use Windows. Buying a copy of
| Windows does not give you or anyone else license to dictate to Microsoft
| what they should or should not do with their operating system. Consumers
| can discuss it, complain about it and submit requests for changes but in the
| end only Bill Gates can decide what he wants to do with Windows.
|

That's why Bill is bailing out from the top with a Golden Parachute. This is the
OS to end all OS's, including this one! What comes after Vista now?


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Old 03-07-2007
Zim Babwe
 

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Re: If you really think Vista is the future...
What comes after Vista now? Since they can't get Vista right, Microsoft
will be thinking of going back to DOS. They will upgrade DOS 6.22 and
change the version to 8.0. Machines will run faster, less prone to
crashing.


"Cymbal Man Freq." <Don't Bother@ForgedPostsAnonymous.unorg> wrote in
message news:Oe2%23DNMYHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Loopy" <stopspam@everywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:%23at3OJMYHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | Seems to me that everyone is overlooking an inescapable fact - Microsoft
> and
> | Microsoft alone owns the Windows operating system. They designed it,
> built
> | it, packaged it and sold it and they can do as they please with it.
> There
> | is nothing in the universe forcing anyone to buy, build, or otherwise
> use a
> | computer and if you decide that you must have one there is no law
> forcing
> | you to use Windows. Buying a copy of
> | Windows does not give you or anyone else license to dictate to Microsoft
> | what they should or should not do with their operating system.
> Consumers
> | can discuss it, complain about it and submit requests for changes but in
> the
> | end only Bill Gates can decide what he wants to do with Windows.
> |
>
> That's why Bill is bailing out from the top with a Golden Parachute. This
> is the
> OS to end all OS's, including this one! What comes after Vista now?
>
>



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Old 03-07-2007
Saran
 

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Re: If you really think Vista is the future...
Gordon Keenan wrote:
> "Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
> news:eTPzCMIYHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> If you really think Vista is the future, then please read this:
>>
>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html
>>
>> To people who seem to be bent on telling people Vista is a good
>> thing, etc, then I'm sorry, you don't have a clue what Vista really
>> represents. Also have a look here for more relating to that:
>>
>> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37091
>>
>> I don't care if you don't like the authors or whatever. Please just
>> read and comprehend what the DRM issue *REALLY* means here.
>>
>> This is my attempt to educate people who think Vista is good for the
>> future of computing. It is not to start a flame war or troll bait.
>> If you want to comment on this, then please do so. Just don't reply
>> saying "you're an idiot, you actually trust that author" or what not.
>>
>> The issue at hand I feel is a serious one, and I hope all who read
>> this will treat it as such.
>>
>> Have a good evening.

>
> I don't think I have read anything on here from any user saying that
> Vista is GOOD for the future of computing, but all I do seem to read
> is some people moaning about the O.S. when it would seem they prefer
> to use Linux, or some other O.S. If that's the case why not stick to
> what makes you happy and allow others to be blind to your vastly
> superior and cheaper alternatives?


My post wasn't about OS vs OS vs OS, so whay try to turn it into that?
Please don't. This is about where Vista is trying to lead the computer
as we know it, and trying to change it completely, in regards to DRM.

> An O.S. is simply that. Use it, or not, it's your call, but bottom
> line is, try and get a life and focus on what matters away from a
> computer and move on with your life. It's a lot shorter than you
> think!


True, but an OS should not try to be acting like a police officer 24/7,
imposing artificial restrictions on media and what not in the ways
desribed in that paper. I strongly urge you read it.


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Old 03-07-2007
Saran
 

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Re: If you really think Vista is the future...
Rich wrote:
>> To people who seem to be bent on telling people Vista is a good
>> thing, etc, then I'm sorry, you don't have a clue what Vista really
>> represents.

>
>
> Irony again
>
> oh brother
>
>
> Rich


Not like I expected you to listen to reason.

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html

Please actually read this, thne coem back, hopefully with an intelligent
response, then try to tell us all, that DRM (and how Vista employs it),
is a _GOOD_ thing.


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