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Old 01-31-2008
Ron
 

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Free utility condenses Windows Vista from 15GB to 1.4GB
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...m-15gb-to-14gb

A Croatian college student has created a utility that installs a seriously
stripped-down Windows Vista, saying the heft of Microsoft's biggest desktop
OS was just too big to believe. "Who can justify a 15GB operating system?"
asked Dino Nuhagic, a fifth-year student from Split, a Croatian city on the
Adriatic. Not Nuhagic, or the uncounted users who have turned to his
creation, vLite.

vLite, a free program that lets users pick and choose which Vista
components, hotfixes, drivers and even language packs are installed, then
builds a disk image that can be burned to a DVD for unattended installation
of the operating system.

"Why did I do it? Well, it's performance and work environment," said Nuhagic
when asked why he came up with vLite. "Performance, that's easy to explain.
The less things running, the more responsive the OS. But the environment
part is where it gets down to personal preference."

Those preferences include options for leaving out virtually every component
of Windows Vista, from the minor -- such as the bundled screensavers -- to
the major, such as the firewall or Universal Plug and Play.


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Old 01-31-2008
Mike Hall - MVP
 

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Re: Free utility condenses Windows Vista from 15GB to 1.4GB
"Ron" <Ron@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:47a1c829$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...m-15gb-to-14gb
>
> A Croatian college student has created a utility that installs a seriously
> stripped-down Windows Vista, saying the heft of Microsoft's biggest
> desktop OS was just too big to believe. "Who can justify a 15GB operating
> system?" asked Dino Nuhagic, a fifth-year student from Split, a Croatian
> city on the Adriatic. Not Nuhagic, or the uncounted users who have turned
> to his creation, vLite.
>
> vLite, a free program that lets users pick and choose which Vista
> components, hotfixes, drivers and even language packs are installed, then
> builds a disk image that can be burned to a DVD for unattended
> installation of the operating system.
>
> "Why did I do it? Well, it's performance and work environment," said
> Nuhagic when asked why he came up with vLite. "Performance, that's easy to
> explain. The less things running, the more responsive the OS. But the
> environment part is where it gets down to personal preference."
>
> Those preferences include options for leaving out virtually every
> component of Windows Vista, from the minor -- such as the bundled
> screensavers -- to the major, such as the firewall or Universal Plug and
> Play.
>



Apparently, it also prevents Vista from being patched..

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Old 01-31-2008
Steve Thackery
 

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Re: Free utility condenses Windows Vista from 15GB to 1.4GB
Hmmm... why compromise the OS like this just to save disk space? Vista
takes a tiny percentage of my hard disk. It's solving a non-problem.

Apparently the stripped down version runs faster, too. That's something I'm
a lot more sceptical about. Just how much faster are we really talking
about here? My processor spends most of its time idle, so I can't accept
that all these background processes are really soaking up many much-needed
processor cycles.

Smaller memory footprint? Yes, that might be useful, although again RAM is
pretty cheap and 2G seems plenty for normal Vista usage anyway.

I'm left wondering why the guy bought Vista and then stripped it down. He
might as well have bought W2K, or DOS.

SteveT

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Old 01-31-2008
the wharf rat
 

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Re: Free utility condenses Windows Vista from 15GB to 1.4GB
In article <#m2QrDBZIHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
Mike Hall - MVP <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:
>
>Apparently, it also prevents Vista from being patched..
>


To be technical, Windows Update's misdesign that treats the
enitre target system as a monolith rather than as a colleciton of modules
prevents patches from being installed unless the system looks "perfect".

And Genuine, of course.

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Old 01-31-2008
Tom Lake
 

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Re: Free utility condenses Windows Vista from 15GB to 1.4GB

"Ron" <Ron@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:47a1c829$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...m-15gb-to-14gb


> Those preferences include options for leaving out virtually every
> component of Windows Vista, from the minor -- such as the bundled
> screensavers -- to the major, such as the firewall or Universal Plug and
> Play.


Then you have XP!

Tom Lake

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Old 01-31-2008
the wharf rat
 

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Re: Free utility condenses Windows Vista from 15GB to 1.4GB
In article <u2$T4PBZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
Steve Thackery <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>I'm left wondering why the guy bought Vista and then stripped it down. He
>might as well have bought W2K, or DOS.
>


Ok, well, look, first of all every line of code is another potential
bug, right? So why introduce potential bugs into a system?

Especially if it's in code you'll never use. Look at uPnP. It's
a security nightmare, few people even use it, but you can't chose not to
install it.

Secondly (and this addresses the "faster" question) each deleted
line of code has the potential to eliminate an unecessary check or branch.
"Faster" doesn't usually mean "processes faster" unless your user is doing
number crunching or gaming. To most users "faster" means more responsive,
so skipping checks and branches that take negligible cpu time but add 20-
50% to the real time of an operation (because of I/O for instance) makes
a very big difference to the *subjective* performance.

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Old 01-31-2008
Mike Hall - MVP
 

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Re: Free utility condenses Windows Vista from 15GB to 1.4GB
"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fnsng0$lut$1@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <#m2QrDBZIHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
> Mike Hall - MVP <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:
>>
>>Apparently, it also prevents Vista from being patched..
>>

>
> To be technical, Windows Update's misdesign that treats the
> enitre target system as a monolith rather than as a colleciton of modules
> prevents patches from being installed unless the system looks "perfect".
>
> And Genuine, of course.
>



Regardless of how or why, for the benefit of updates/patching, using vlite
is not such a good idea.

I don't see why some are so hung up on size anyway. I keep a huge amount of
graphics, pictures, clipart, videos etc. I also have drivers and service
info for machines going back 15 years, music, my own personal documents,
Vista Ultimate, the complete collection of MS Office 2007 products,
Expression Web, four complete games (Halo, AoE III, Fable, and CFS 3), and a
variety of other applications and bits: Total = 75gb

That would easily fit onto a 120gb drive, relatively small by today's
standards. Many new computers are being supplied with 160 - 320gb.

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Old 02-01-2008
Roger Van Loon
 

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Re: Free utility condenses Windows Vista from 15GB to 1.4GB
Tom Lake wrote:
>
> "Ron" <Ron@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:47a1c829$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...m-15gb-to-14gb
>>

>
>> Those preferences include options for leaving out virtually every
>> component of Windows Vista, from the minor -- such as the bundled
>> screensavers -- to the major, such as the firewall or Universal Plug
>> and Play.

>
> Then you have XP!
>
> Tom Lake


Is that REALLY true? Then I'll install it immediately
Roger
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Old 02-02-2008
Katie
 

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Re: Free utility condenses Windows Vista from 15GB to 1.4GB
is anyone going to look into this further? it would be worthwhile to have win
vis working more like xp pro or win 2000! Any advice on how to trim down
winvis ultimate or any plans on ms doing that? any reply is appreciated that
is not *plonk*


"Roger Van Loon" wrote:

> Tom Lake wrote:
> >
> > "Ron" <Ron@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:47a1c829$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> >> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...m-15gb-to-14gb
> >>

> >
> >> Those preferences include options for leaving out virtually every
> >> component of Windows Vista, from the minor -- such as the bundled
> >> screensavers -- to the major, such as the firewall or Universal Plug
> >> and Play.

> >
> > Then you have XP!
> >
> > Tom Lake

>
> Is that REALLY true? Then I'll install it immediately
> Roger
>

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