Building a quad core system. Licensing concerns...

Maybe this is nothing, but I am building myself a quad core (4 cpu cores
on one die, so only one physical processor) system and I want to load XP
Pro generic OEM. I do have a vista business retail license also I could
use if I needed to (but really prefer not to use vista). Both EULAs
state allowed for use with no more than 2 processors.

XP Pro EULA:

"The product may not be used on more than two (2) processors at any one
time on any single workstation computer."

http://download.microsoft.com/docume...9a853868a1.pdf

Vista Business EULA:

"You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at one
time."

http://download.microsoft.com/docume...3ed16d138a.pdf

I've never been a big MS fan, but neither am I into 'pirating' either.
My obvious concern is being able to use an OS within the licensing
terms. This isn't a cause for concern, is it?

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The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
wrote:
> Maybe this is nothing, but I am building myself a quad core (4 cpu cores
> on one die, so only one physical processor) system and I want to load XP
> Pro generic OEM. I do have a vista business retail license also I could
> use if I needed to (but really prefer not to use vista). Both EULAs
> state allowed for use with no more than 2 processors.
>
> XP Pro EULA:
>
> "The product may not be used on more than two (2) processors at any one
> time on any single workstation computer."
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...9a853868a1.pdf
>
>
> Vista Business EULA:
>
> "You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at one
> time."
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...3ed16d138a.pdf
>
>
> I've never been a big MS fan, but neither am I into 'pirating' either.
> My obvious concern is being able to use an OS within the licensing
> terms. This isn't a cause for concern, is it?
>


Maybe it depends on how they (MS) define "processor" and "core"? :-)
Frank

"Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
news:%238Ca%23csXIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
> wrote:
>> Maybe this is nothing, but I am building myself a quad core (4 cpu cores
>> on one die, so only one physical processor) system and I want to load XP
>> Pro generic OEM. I do have a vista business retail license also I could
>> use if I needed to (but really prefer not to use vista). Both EULAs
>> state allowed for use with no more than 2 processors.
>>
>> XP Pro EULA:
>>
>> "The product may not be used on more than two (2) processors at any one
>> time on any single workstation computer."
>>
>> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...9a853868a1.pdf
>> Vista Business EULA:
>>
>> "You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at one
>> time."
>>
>> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...3ed16d138a.pdf
>> I've never been a big MS fan, but neither am I into 'pirating' either. My
>> obvious concern is being able to use an OS within the licensing terms.
>> This isn't a cause for concern, is it?
>>
>
>
> Maybe it depends on how they (MS) define "processor" and "core"? :-)
> Frank

A dual or quad core CPU is still a single physical CPU it just has multiple
cores in it.

"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
<nono@none.not> wrote in message news:fnapip$eno$1@aioe.org...
> Maybe this is nothing, but I am building myself a quad core (4 cpu cores
> on one die, so only one physical processor) system and I want to load XP
> Pro generic OEM. I do have a vista business retail license also I could
> use if I needed to (but really prefer not to use vista). Both EULAs state
> allowed for use with no more than 2 processors.
>
> XP Pro EULA:
>
> "The product may not be used on more than two (2) processors at any one
> time on any single workstation computer."

A multi-core processor is still classed as one processor.

If your system has only one processor socket, it supports one processor.
It doesn't matter how many cores there are.

HTH
-pk

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"Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
news:%238Ca%23csXIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
> wrote:
>> Maybe this is nothing, but I am building myself a quad core (4 cpu cores
>> on one die, so only one physical processor) system and I want to load XP
>> Pro generic OEM. I do have a vista business retail license also I could
>> use if I needed to (but really prefer not to use vista). Both EULAs
>> state allowed for use with no more than 2 processors.
>>
>> XP Pro EULA:
>>
>> "The product may not be used on more than two (2) processors at any one
>> time on any single workstation computer."
>>
>> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...9a853868a1.pdf
>> Vista Business EULA:
>>
>> "You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at one
>> time."
>>
>> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...3ed16d138a.pdf
>> I've never been a big MS fan, but neither am I into 'pirating' either. My
>> obvious concern is being able to use an OS within the licensing terms.
>> This isn't a cause for concern, is it?
>>
>
>
> Maybe it depends on how they (MS) define "processor" and "core"? :-)
> Frank

They do actually make this clear. It's the physical processor packaging,
not the number of cores.

If there is one CPU socket on the board, it's a single-CPU system. If
there are two sockets, and both are populated with CPUs, it's a
dual-processor system.

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/h...multicore.mspx

HTH
-pk

Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
> news:%238Ca%23csXIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
>> wrote:
>>> Maybe this is nothing, but I am building myself a quad core (4 cpu
>>> cores on one die, so only one physical processor) system and I want
>>> to load XP Pro generic OEM. I do have a vista business retail
>>> license also I could use if I needed to (but really prefer not to use
>>> vista). Both EULAs state allowed for use with no more than 2
>>> processors.
>>>
>>> XP Pro EULA:
>>>
>>> "The product may not be used on more than two (2) processors at any
>>> one time on any single workstation computer."
>>>
>>> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...9a853868a1.pdf
>>> Vista Business EULA:
>>>
>>> "You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at
>>> one time."
>>>
>>> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...3ed16d138a.pdf
>>> I've never been a big MS fan, but neither am I into 'pirating'
>>> either. My obvious concern is being able to use an OS within the
>>> licensing terms. This isn't a cause for concern, is it?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe it depends on how they (MS) define "processor" and "core"? :-)
>> Frank
>
> They do actually make this clear. It's the physical processor
> packaging, not the number of cores.
>
> If there is one CPU socket on the board, it's a single-CPU system. If
> there are two sockets, and both are populated with CPUs, it's a
> dual-processor system.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/h...multicore.mspx
>
> HTH
> -pk
>

Great, thanks for all replies! I understand now.

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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:25:26 -0800, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:

>The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
>wrote:
>> Maybe this is nothing, but I am building myself a quad core (4 cpu cores
>> on one die, so only one physical processor) system and I want to load XP
>> Pro generic OEM. I do have a vista business retail license also I could
>> use if I needed to (but really prefer not to use vista). Both EULAs
>> state allowed for use with no more than 2 processors.
>>
>> XP Pro EULA:
>>
>> "The product may not be used on more than two (2) processors at any one
>> time on any single workstation computer."
>>
>> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...9a853868a1.pdf
>>
>>
>> Vista Business EULA:
>>
>> "You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at one
>> time."
>>
>> http://download.microsoft.com/docume...3ed16d138a.pdf
>>
>>
>> I've never been a big MS fan, but neither am I into 'pirating' either.
>> My obvious concern is being able to use an OS within the licensing
>> terms. This isn't a cause for concern, is it?
>>
>
>
>Maybe it depends on how they (MS) define "processor" and "core"? :-)
>Frank

Frank what are you doin on a cumputer! I'm gonna slap your little
white ass. Now get your butt home and do your homework.